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How many grams for first trip?
    #21832356 - 06/20/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Two questions.

1. I've heard that you need to respect the mushroom. Everything I've read so far backs that up. So my first dose is going to be low, out of respect. I'm not going to dive off into something I know nothing about, and take 3 or 4 grams. But I can't seem to decide on how much to take. I think it needs to be either 1.5 grams, 2.0 grams, or 2.5 grams. I've always felt like medicines, and other substances have a different effect on me that than they do others. Like the effect is way stronger. Take weed for example. I don't get enjoyment out of that stuff. It takes me sky high, and every time it gives me a headache. I'll laugh so long and so hard that just the laughter will give me a headache. I don't like weed. At all. Only exception being when its mixed with alcohol. I get a different experience using it that way. That's just one example.

2. What is the absolute perfect way to make it into tea? Something about heating the water to 250 degrees, stirring in the dried shrooms, etc. But what is the whole process? Down to the letter. I don't want to lose any psilocybin. I don't want to think that I'm taking say... 2.5 grams, and only really be taking 1.5 grams, or 2.0 grams. What is the absolute perfect method of making the mushroom tea?

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832417 - 06/20/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you feel the highest you want to take is 2.5 grams, then take 2.5 grams. I would say take 3.5 grams. Have a good set and setting. Take it on an empty stomach. No need to make a tea.

If 1 hit of cannabis is not too strong for you, keep some around during the trip to take small hits when things get hairy.

Breathe deeply in difficult moments and don't curl up into the fetal position.

Have a good trip!

Congratulations on deciding to use mushrooms!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: JeNousAime]
    #21832503 - 06/20/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have a sensitive stomach that gets all bent out of shape about stuff that I don't think it should. So I'm not going to risk the nausea, and go ahead and make it into a tea. Or at least, I'm going to try to keep the risk of nausea down lower. I can't imagine a worse time than tripping balls and feeling like I'm going to puke. Not for me.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832562 - 06/20/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello there, how are you?

If weed is too strong for you then mushrooms aren't going to be any bit easier to handle. Not that you have to be afraid but you have to be careful & responsible. If you get that spun from smoking reefer then expect to go to the moon with mushrooms. 2.5 grams of mushrooms is not a low dose so I highly suggest that you don't do that much. In your situation, I would definitely not go any higher than 1.5 grams. Better safe than sorry.


Edited by Bigfeely123 (06/20/15 02:20 PM)


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832564 - 06/20/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Tea is the way to go, I make mine by heating however much water you want to drink to where it is just steaming in the pot turn it off and add your hand crushed shrooms or finely chopped if theyre fresh, let it steep for 45 mins to an hour (probably overkill but rather not waste anything) and a lemons worth of juice and your favorite tea bag, steep to as strong as you want it then strain your shrooms and sweeten to taste.

If this is going to be your first psychedelic experience id say go for 1.5g to get a feel for things then take yourself as far as you want in the future, find the best set and setting that works for you and you'll be able to go deeper and deeper into your mind. I find 1 month between trips is ideal but everyones different. Good luck in your endeavor.


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Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lovesquare]
    #21832594 - 06/20/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you can always eat more later


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21832689 - 06/20/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bigfeely123 said:
Hello there, how are you?

If weed is too strong for you then mushrooms aren't going to be any bit easier to handle. Not that you have to be afraid but you have to be careful & responsible. If you get that spun from smoking reefer then expect to go to the moon with mushrooms. 2.5 grams of mushrooms is not a low dose so I highly suggest that you don't do that much. In your situation, I would definitely not go any higher than 1.5 grams. Better safe than sorry.





Thanks for the relies everyone.

But I wouldn't say that I can't really handle the weed. I'm not sure if that's the right word. At this point, I can handle it. I just don't like having to. It becomes a bit of a stressful chore, I don't find it at all relaxing. In fact I find it somewhat nerve wracking. It just won't leave me alone, it feels like the whole time its bothering me or hounding me. I find alcohol to be a much more relaxing drug. I don't drink very often, but when I do, I can handle myself and I know how much to drink and when to stop drinking. If I go to far though, the alcohol starts harassing me like the weed does. I don't know if any of this makes sense, its just how I feel about it.

But I guess its a good thing I'm not looking for recreation. I'm looking for a spiritual experience, not to have a good time or chill out like people who do weed or drink alcohol.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832747 - 06/20/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take a bit of ginger for your gut and eat 2 grams a half an our later. I would eat the whole fruits for your first trip for a nice slow "come up" and good duration. Teas can come on fast and hard and not last as long. Have a nice trip!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21832795 - 06/20/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

@ OP I got a great chocolate recipe in my journal

mushroom chocolates, takes 2min to make on the stove


best part is it removes 100% of nausea in the trip, so much better trip usually


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: filthyknees]
    #21832812 - 06/20/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1) I'd suggest 5g in a Lemon Tek.

2) I'd love to see someone "heat water to 250 degrees" for any type of tea ("pour it just before boiling; don't burn it").

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava] * 1
    #21832825 - 06/20/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Eat 2 grams


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21832936 - 06/20/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I totally forgot about the tea part... if your dead set on making the tea then I'd recommend only one gram to start with & if you're feeling confident then 1.5 grams but no more. I really would not suggest going any higher at all because it will kick in very fast & hit you hard.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21835388 - 06/21/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm. So tea has its disadvantages. Can anyone confirm that ginger will help to prevent the nausea? What about something like tums, or pepto bismol?

Is there a way that I could still use the tea, but have it come on slowly as though I were eating them? Maybe I could just sip the tea, over 30 minutes, or 1 hour, until I'd drank the whole cup. Perhaps drinking the tea, can be drawn out over a long period of time, and that might help the trip come on more slowly?


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835405 - 06/21/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah you could sip and down it within 30 minutes to avoid a tolerance build up and you would start feeling it about the same time you finished it. Then the effects would get slightly stronger until you peak and ride the waves.  Ginger will help with nausea but you most likely will avoid it all together by straining the mushrooms from the tea. Tea is gentle on the stomach all though i prefer lemonade but it's up to you. I wouldn't suggest lemonade teking your first time, cause that will hit even harder. Ginger tea and you'll have a wonderful experience, just focus on set and setting.


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If you go down round the bend in the river,
You're gonna find a few changes been going down there.

If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835422 - 06/21/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for all the help. I really can't thank everyone enough for this.

So the tea trips will be shorter? About how much shorter? Maybe cut in half? So instead of 8 hours, I might trip for only 4 hours? That might be better for me, for the first time. Just to sort of ease into this, you know?


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835789 - 06/21/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A mushroom trip is not 8 hours-unless you're counting the very subtle effects a couple hours after you're done tripping, as in the "afterglow" sort of feeling. Expect to trip for approximately 3-5 hours & have all effects diminish entirely by about 8 hours after taking the mushrooms.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21835860 - 06/21/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info. So the tea trip then, instead of being 3 to 5 hours, would be more like 1.5-3hours? Just as a rough estimate, of course.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21838643 - 06/21/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Come up in 30 mins (less if you were to drink it all at one time) peak for about 2 hours come down for 1 hour so about 3.5-4 hours total trip time.


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If you go down to the gas-powered flatland,
Where most of the people just think that they're free,
Remember the peace that you had on the mountain,
Come back to the love that you had here with me...


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lovesquare]
    #21840563 - 06/22/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks again. To me, that sounds a lot more reasonable for a first time.

Well since my questions on that have been answered, I may as well just keep asking more.


If you take the top off your growing tube twice a day in order to fan out the carbon dioxide, doesn't that completely disperse all the humidity? I guess its not really a concern, but does the humidity build back up to near 100% almost immediately? 


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21840901 - 06/22/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1.5g of potent cubes, and then another .5-1g if after an hour you're ready to go much deeper. Keep in mind that that gram can make a WORLD of a difference. So make sure to truly evaluate how hard you're tripping before eating more. I say start with 1.5g because 1.5g of say recently dried, properly stored penis envy grown with love will do a lot more than a 2.5 of horrible stored shrooms grown out of greed.


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