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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21872022 - 06/29/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a video that might help people understand white privilege:



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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #21872204 - 06/29/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Many people get mistreated and it has to do with class not race, stop looking for racism when it doesn't exist, that's a form of racism in itself.




I'm confused, are you trying to say that racism doesn't exist at all? I agree that the biggest disadvantages are typically class-based, but it would be false to say that racism doesn't exist.




No racism still exists and will always exist.  I was responding to a post which stated that blacks were treated like second class citizens in 2015, I suggested otherwise.  To point out any discrepancy between certain groups of people and to insinuate that difference is because of some sort of racism is a form of race pimping.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21872211 - 06/29/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Here's a video that might help people understand white privilege:






That video does nothing to support the concept of "white privilege".


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872216 - 06/29/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone who doesn't believe in white privilege in the U.S. is either willfully blind about it or trying to protect his/her own white privilege.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872367 - 06/29/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>No racism still exists and will always exist.

Yes, in the form of aa, and various minority handouts and special dispensations. Black privilege is a real thing, white privilege is a myth promoted by the left to justify racism.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21872378 - 06/29/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Anyone who doesn't believe in white privilege in the U.S. is either willfully blind about it or trying to protect his/her own white privilege.




Do some white people in the US that are very wealthy have some advantages over others? Yes. Do some black people in the US that are very wealthy have some advantages over others? Yes.

There's a wealth privilege that exists all over the globe and has been around since the beginning of time, that's never going to change.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman] * 1
    #21872386 - 06/29/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The existence of a wealth privilege doesn't negate the existence of a white privilege


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21872412 - 06/29/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>No racism still exists and will always exist.

Yes, in the form of aa, and various minority handouts and special dispensations. Black privilege is a real thing, white privilege is a myth promoted by the left to justify racism.




Do you honestly believe that absolutely no white privledge exists? How do you respond to my post from earlier, detailing just a couple of the many situations where it's better to be white? Complete with peer-reviewed studies.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21872416 - 06/29/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The existence of a wealth privilege doesn't negate the existence of a white privilege




Nor doesn't it negate the existence of other racial/ethnic privileges.  In conclusion, some white people have privilege, some black people have privilege, some Asians have privilege and the list goes on and on.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872435 - 06/29/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>In conclusion, some white people have privilege, some black people have privilege, some Asians have privilege and the list goes on and on.

Of course, its obvious to any rational person. But try to convince the brainwashed crowd.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #21872445 - 06/29/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>No racism still exists and will always exist.

Yes, in the form of aa, and various minority handouts and special dispensations. Black privilege is a real thing, white privilege is a myth promoted by the left to justify racism.




Do you honestly believe that absolutely no white privilege exists? How do you respond to my post from earlier, detailing just a couple of the many situations where it's better to be white? Complete with peer-reviewed studies.




That post and its "studies" really doesn't prove a dam thing, what about age privilege?  Sex privilege?  Religious privilege?  Educational privilege?  Wealth and income privilege?  Having good physical looks privilege?  Driving a more expensive car privilege?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman] * 1
    #21872476 - 06/29/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You seem to accept a lot of privileges except for white privilege.  I wonder why that is...

Your argument is that lots of privileges exist, but white privilege doesn't?  Or is it that lots of privileges exist, and white privilege is one of them? 

I'm trying to figure out your position.  That's all.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21872498 - 06/29/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You seem to accept a lot of privileges except for white privilege.  I wonder why that is...

Your argument is that lots of privileges exist, but white privilege doesn't?  Or is it that lots of privileges exist, and white privilege is one of them? 

I'm trying to figure out your position.  That's all.




Lots of privileges exist including being white in some instances. The problem with the "white privilege" myth is that it assumes EVERY white person is benefiting from the sole purpose of being born white and that's complete nonsense.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872506 - 06/29/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nearly every white person benefits from white privilege, yes.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872529 - 06/29/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You seem to accept a lot of privileges except for white privilege.  I wonder why that is...

Your argument is that lots of privileges exist, but white privilege doesn't?  Or is it that lots of privileges exist, and white privilege is one of them? 

I'm trying to figure out your position.  That's all.




Lots of privileges exist including being white in some instances. The problem with the "white privilege" myth is that it assumes EVERY white person is benefiting from the sole purpose of being born white and that's complete nonsense.




I'm glad you clarified this, because I was confused about your position as well.

Privledge applies to everyone. If we discuss white privledge for a moment, there are situations that any white person may be in, and likely will be in, where it is beneficial to be white. This is not the same as saying that white people ride around getting praised everywhere they go because they are white. But I do think it's accurate to say that every white person likely will at some point receive benefits just because they are white. They'll also receive disadvantages for the same reason and the same holds true for all races, genders, sexual orientations, etc.

The issue when discussing privledge is people assume it's all or nothing. Saying white privledge exists does not mean that black privledge doesn't also exist. It also doesn't mean that all white people will have the same experience with their privledge.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21872552 - 06/29/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Here's a video that might help people understand white privilege:





really? A shitty buzz feed video? You're better than that fal. This doesnt "prove" anything. The quality of your video sources has really been declining lately.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: psyconaught]
    #21872708 - 06/29/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>really? A shitty buzz feed video? You're better than that fal. This doesnt "prove" anything. The quality of your video sources has really been declining lately.

I've noticed that as well.

We can prove black and minority privilege, its written into law and into policies that favor them over whites. The mythical white privilege has never been demonstrated and all we get is the usual libtard "yes it is" type of argument. They keep saying it over and over with no evidence and seem to think that proves something. Its the technique of the big lie, say some huge lie often enough, get authority figures to repeat it and in the minds of the dumb sheep, it becomes true. Hitler used that, as did stalin, mao, and obumble.

So few take the time to examine facts in a cold light rather than in the light of wingnut ideology.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21872736 - 06/29/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nearly every white person benefits from white privilege, yes.




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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21872788 - 06/29/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nearly every white person benefits from white privilege, yes.




Nope.




A perfect example of what I just said. No evidence, no logical argument, just a 'I said so' type of statement. That is the main difference between the far left and moderates or conservatives. Liberals are all emo, they base things on feelings. More reasonable people look at facts.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21872823 - 06/29/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

here's a video that might help people understand white privilege:



it at least exists as a comedic construct :shrug:


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