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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: stevo]
    #21926729 - 07/10/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It isn't a crime to have sexual intercourse with a flag.  You can even burn a flag and that's protected by the Constitution.  I think you're misinformed as fuck.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21926776 - 07/11/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: stevo]
    #21926955 - 07/11/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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  But fuck with an american flag and see how fast you get hauled off to prison and labeled a terrorist.




Wrong. Liberals burn and stomp, even wipe their ass with American flag and no one does shit about it...


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #21927634 - 07/11/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just seen a video today on FB of some Americans burning an American flag in the street on 4th of July. They didn't get arrested.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21927703 - 07/11/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Listen up confederate flag lovers; we don't like it. We don't like you. We are telling you it's offensive. Just because you don't care doesn't mean anything. Stop giving us false reasons why you are displaying racism. It is what it is.  We understand you want to be a rebel. You want to drink beer, go muddin, and kill niggers. It's not okay with the rest of America. You are a dirty rebel and its called treason. Have you no TRUE sense of pride? I've said my piece, it's my turn to listen. The question is; what part of history are you trying to preserve? To have heritage you would think you would need a history. Remind us all of what the south did that deserves to be symbolized and revered.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927728 - 07/11/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Listen up confederate flag lovers; we don't like it. We don't like you. We are telling you it's offensive. Just because you don't care doesn't mean anything. Stop giving us false reasons why you are displaying racism. It is what it is.  We understand you want to be a rebel. You want to drink beer, go muddin, and kill niggers. It's not okay with the rest of America. You are a dirty rebel and its called treason. Have you no TRUE sense of pride? I've said my piece, it's my turn to listen. The question is; what part of history are you trying to preserve? To have heritage you would think you would need a history. Remind us all of what the south did that deserves to be symbolized and revered.




"We are telling you it's offensive"

So what?  Supporters of the flag are telling you otherwise, it represents their heritage and history. Please don't forget that 95% of Southerners didn't own slaves.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21927774 - 07/11/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Listen, it's not up to an individual what is offensive, it's up to the society. And our society is telling you it's offensive. Deal with it. Also you didn't answer the question. What history and heritage does the south have that deserves to be symbolized and revered? Yall keep talking about history but can't cite one specific instance (other than the civil war) of great history originating from the south. Give me an example of when that flag was flown in an altruistic or magnanimous manner.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927796 - 07/11/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Listen up confederate flag lovers; we don't like it. We don't like you. We are telling you it's offensive. Just because you don't care doesn't mean anything. Stop giving us false reasons why you are displaying racism. It is what it is.  We understand you want to be a rebel. You want to drink beer, go muddin, and kill niggers. It's not okay with the rest of America. You are a dirty rebel and its called treason. Have you no TRUE sense of pride? I've said my piece, it's my turn to listen. The question is; what part of history are you trying to preserve? To have heritage you would think you would need a history. Remind us all of what the south did that deserves to be symbolized and revered.



Have you studied history?  I mean done your own research?  Because they tell you a different story in school.
I was raised in the north and was taught a different story about the civil war. I've lived in the south for...13 years now and have learned the truth.
The flag doesn't mean what all these over sensitive people think it does. Do i rock the flag? No. But I'm proud of the south because the south stood up to the federalist and said you're not going to boss us around. Plain and simple.
The problem is the flag was taken by racist rednecks and used for a purpose in which it was never intended.
There's a lot of things i don't like. Guess what? Big deal. I don't let it bother me.
So please, educate yourself before blabbering off because your feelings are hurt. Emotions don't rule the world


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927819 - 07/11/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Listen, it's not up to an individual what is offensive, it's up to the society. And our society is telling you it's offensive. Deal with it. Also you didn't answer the question. What history and heritage does the south have that deserves to be symbolized and revered? Yall keep talking about history but can't cite one specific instance (other than the civil war) of great history originating from the south. Give me an example of when that flag was flown in an altruistic or magnanimous manner.




"And our society is telling you it's offensive"

No, certain people within the population are telling other people it's offensive. I don't let the PC liberal retards dictate what's "offensive" and what isn't! 

"What history and heritage does the south have that deserves to be symbolized and revered?"

It doesn't matter, the supporters of the flag don't need to justify it's symbolic meaning to you or anyone else, if it's important to them that's all that matters.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: azur]
    #21927822 - 07/11/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't tell me to educate myself. Bud you still haven't said anything but horse shit. No examples there. None. Except you like rebels. What an amazing platform to take on this subject. Read the past ten pages of this thread to get a clue of real history. (Fact check and absorb) Problem is people like you apparently love to cherry pick facts. I'm seeing the big picture, which I'm certain you are on the verge of grasping; you seem intelligent enough. Such as when those flags were actually put up. All you are defending is rebels. Are you an anarchist /conservative by chance? Down with government? Need to live off the grid because of the man? Why would my feelings be hurt by rednecks anyways?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21927826 - 07/11/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It doesn't matter, the supporters of the flag don't need to justify it's symbolic meaning to you or anyone else, if it's important to them that's all that matters.



No one has suggested banning the flag, though.  This is about whether the flag should be flown on a public building...that's it.

Fly your offensive flag all you want.  That's freedom of speech.  If you don't give a fuck that a large portion of Americans are deeply offended by it, by all means, fly that fucker proudly. 

If you want to fly a Nazi flag, you can do that too...that's your right.

It's my right to use my speech to criticize you for doing so.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21927827 - 07/11/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The history and heritage absolutely make a difference in this debate because it's the claim to keeping the flag, no heritage no claim. And it appears there isn't any


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927838 - 07/11/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Learn real history by reading a thread on a drug site?  Hmmmm
Just chill out dude. You don't like the flag. Ok. I hear you loud and clear.
I don't like it or dislike it. But i do know it's true meaning and i don't think it should not be flown because people like you are offended by it.
I don't like all the god talk in this country. It's written all over government buildings. But so what. I'm not going to cry about it. There are better things in life.
You should probably put the computer down and go outside. Find some beauty and positive in your life. You'll be better for it.

Btw, what's your opinion on this?
http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/07/09/memphis-city-council-votes-to-dig-up-remains-of-confederate-civil-war-general-wife/
Just more crybabies like you. Where's it going to end?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21927857 - 07/11/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Please don't forget that 95% of Southerners didn't own slaves.




Please don't forget that 38% of Southerners WERE slaves...


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: azur]
    #21927864 - 07/11/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

God I hope you don't take websites and articles like that seriously... I would listen to these people here before that goofy site.  and it just gos to show... you keep calling me a crybaby, but since when are the people on the winning side crybabies? You fucking crybaby lol. Also did you have any history to cite?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927870 - 07/11/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The history and heritage absolutely make a difference in this debate because it's the claim to keeping the flag, no heritage no claim. And it appears there isn't any




The supporters have plenty of reasons why the flag is tied to their heritage and history, I'm not here to speak for them, if you're so curious look it up yourself. 

"And it appears there isn't any"

Do your own research, if you disagree with their reasons so be it, but don't limit your knowledge on the subject matter because you are so emotionally invested in the debate.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927878 - 07/11/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Still looking for that elusive heritage and history of the deep south...


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927889 - 07/11/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Still looking for that elusive heritage and history of the deep south...




I doubt any explanation would change your outlook, so stop looking.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #21927895 - 07/11/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey. You are a crybaby. You can't say anything without throwing in insults. I mean, look at your name.  Bitter. Says it all.
Actually, truth be told, the total number of white people in America (North & South) in 1860 who were slave owners was less than 3%.
As for free Negroes in the southern states, about 10% of them owned slaves. So that means that free blacks were 3 times more likely to own slaves than free whites in the southern states.
I don't need to cite anything on the Internet. I've visited museums and forts and battlefields throughout the country. Have you?  Evidently not. Why?  Because you're more concerned about your emotions than you are facts.
I have a busy day and must be off. This has been fun. Enjoy your day guys


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: azur]
    #21927905 - 07/11/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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As for free Negroes in the southern states, about 10% of them owned slaves.



A bit of a misleading statement.  The vast majority of black slave owners were freed men who purchased their wives and children so that they could be free.


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