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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: joe666]
#21897464 - 07/04/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Well said, joe. Orwell was a prophet and the sheep are proving him right.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: joe666]
#21897471 - 07/04/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Yeah, but that's just not true. Also, nobody's trying to 'rewrite' the past. We just don't want garbage on public buildings, like the confederate flag, and the ten commandments.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21897541 - 07/04/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Yeah, but that's just not true. Also, nobody's trying to 'rewrite' the past. We just don't want garbage on public buildings, like the confederate flag, and the ten commandments.
You shouldn't call the confederate flag "garbage" just because you yourself don't like it. To some people that flag symbolizes much more. This is akin to me calling your half-Kuwaiti brother a "mongrel". You are going to have issues with it because to you, he is something else entirely
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
#21897984 - 07/04/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Yeah, but that's just not true. Also, nobody's trying to 'rewrite' the past. We just don't want garbage on public buildings, like the confederate flag, and the ten commandments.
You shouldn't call the confederate flag "garbage" just because you yourself don't like it. To some people that flag symbolizes much more. This is akin to me calling your half-Kuwaiti brother a "mongrel". You are going to have issues with it because to you, he is something else entirely
it is in no way, shape, or form akin to your despicable analogy for interracial procreation. The confederate flag is representative of disunity within the United States. It is quite reprehensible to celebrate the blood spilled during the most tumultuous period in American history, when brothers were reduced to violent enemies. It has also devolved further into a symbol of racial hate, which is why the KKK is demonstrating in protest of it's removal from public institutions.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21898050 - 07/04/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Yeah, but that's just not true. Also, nobody's trying to 'rewrite' the past. We just don't want garbage on public buildings, like the confederate flag, and the ten commandments.
You shouldn't call the confederate flag "garbage" just because you yourself don't like it. To some people that flag symbolizes much more. This is akin to me calling your half-Kuwaiti brother a "mongrel". You are going to have issues with it because to you, he is something else entirely
it is in no way, shape, or form akin to your despicable analogy for interracial procreation.
You need to calm yourself down and become less emotional. If you think my analogy is not accurate, you should try to rationally explain why it doesn't work, instead of just calling it "despicable". If I were as infantile as you, I would just fire one right back at you calling your statement "despicable" too, and we would not have gone anywhere.
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The confederate flag is representative of disunity within the United States. It is quite reprehensible to celebrate the blood spilled during the most tumultuous period in American history, when brothers were reduced to violent enemies.
All this is what this flag represents TO YOU. To some others, the flag is much more.
You need to realize that the world is seen and experienced by other people in ways that you are not privy to.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
#21898206 - 07/04/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Look, the flag wasn't even put on public buildings in South Carolina until desegregation. It was in protest of desegregation. In this day and age, that is the general sentiment reflected by the confederate flag.
Also, you make the claim that somehow your racist depiction of my brother's lineage is equivalent to a calling a flag (which is effectively symbolic to the majority of people in this nation of racism, and more deeply, reminiscent of a time when American families brutally killed each other over ideological differences) garbage.
You made the initial claim that there is some similarity here. I ask you to please explain yourself. Also, I do find your calling another human being a 'mongrel' to be despicable; particularly my brother. Calling me 'infantile' for observing the detestable nature of your statement is simply an ad hominem cop-out remark. I truly don't understand why you insist on lowering yourself to personal insults, but I will remind, or inform you, that in a disagreement it is only pertinent to attack one's ideas, not their character.
If you feel that my statement is 'despicable' please say so, we do no censoring here. Also, I challenge you to defend that claim.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21898549 - 07/04/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WAN Banned: 07/04/15 05:45 PM Expires: Never Reason: Flaming/Trolling BanMod:
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21898856 - 07/04/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, you make the claim that somehow your racist depiction of my brother's lineage is equivalent to a calling a flag (which is effectively symbolic to the majority of people in this nation of racism, and more deeply, reminiscent of a time when American families brutally killed each other over ideological differences) garbage.
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Wrong
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/confederate-flag-poll-racism-southern-pride/
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil] 1
#21898919 - 07/04/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thats a bit extreme.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: joe666]
#21898973 - 07/04/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, you make the claim that somehow your racist depiction of my brother's lineage is equivalent to a calling a flag (which is effectively symbolic to the majority of people in this nation of racism, and more deeply, reminiscent of a time when American families brutally killed each other over ideological differences) garbage.
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Wrong
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/confederate-flag-poll-racism-southern-pride/
What do you think the term 'Southern Pride' entails, in this context? It is not American pride. Southern Pride, as represented by that flag, which was actually the battle flag of Virginia during the Civil war (The actual confederate flag was much different), is a celebration of the confederacy's violent attempt at succession, and the ideologies they adhered to.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
#21898980 - 07/04/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: thats a bit extreme.
Did you actually ban her?
Regardless, I think that women was hell bent on getting a rise out of people in a forum that is already often quite tense.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21898982 - 07/04/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had nothing to do with it.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
#21898986 - 07/04/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What do you mean?
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21898996 - 07/04/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had nothing to do with her ban.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21899003 - 07/04/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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if anyone should have been banned, its stonehenge. he's the one encouraging her to be his mouthpiece. he's the one who she was defending in the conversation that led to her ban
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
#21899035 - 07/04/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: if anyone should have been banned, its stonehenge. he's the one encouraging her to be his mouthpiece. he's the one who she was defending in the conversation that led to her ban
You can't ban Stonehenge lol... He can be annoying, but he has more of a purpose than getting a rise out of people... He's been here for like 10 years, and he gave me some of my finest plants. That would be a mistake.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: joe666] 1
#21900241 - 07/05/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joe666 said: This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Was this meant to be an ironic post?
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Guy who designed the flag said: As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race...
The only people I see trying to rewrite history are those defending racist symbolism.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: paperbackwriter] 1
#21900449 - 07/05/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guy who designed the flag said: As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race...
The only people I see trying to rewrite history are those defending racist symbolism.
Well said.
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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Nice thread Stonehenge.
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