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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21894304 - 07/03/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think that the concept of 'affirmative action,' together with 'diversity' and 'open border immigration,' are truly brilliant constructs of the democratic party and liberals to play upon peoples emotions concerning 'racism' in order to secure 'people of color' as a reliable democratic voting block.

Now why do I say this?  Well (From Wikipeda 'affirmative action') President Kennedy first started affirmative action in an executive order in the early 60's which was expanded in 1965 by Johnson 'On 24 September 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed Executive Order 11246, thereby replacing Executive Order 10925 and affirming Federal Government's commitment "to promote the full realization of equal employment opportunity through a positive, continuing program in each executive department and agency".

Now doesn't this seem like a noble cause?  It does, until you hear the famous quote from Lyndon B. Johnson in the same era:  to QUOTE "I'll have those n.....gers voting democrat(sic) for the next 200 years"

I believe that is game, set, and match concerning the purpose of 'affirmative action.' :rockon: :smirk:




I would like to see a reference for that quote, but regardless, equality is generally a liberal ideal. It is actually the core of liberal philosophy.



But don't you see, people are NOT born equal.  Some people are taller than me, some shorter.  Some are hotter than me, some uglier.  So it goes to reason that some people are better than me.




You seem to advocate policies that exacerbate natural inequalities, while I feel that a leg up should only be given those who are down. I don't think any liberal out there wants to make everyone equal in every way. If you can't understand the liberal definition of the term 'equality', I really don't have the patience to break it down for you.




First of all, what policies am I advocating?  Also, assuming that I am advocating these policies (which I am not.  You are putting words in my mouth), how would they "exacerbate natural inequalities"?

Also, I just have a question for all of you people who are such big supporters of "equality" among all.  Let me ask you this.  Where does this end?  How far are you going to take it?  I am an ugly girl (I am), with raven black hair.  Say I want to compete in a beauty pageant, and I am up against a whole bunch of super-hot blond girls.  Are you going to make good of your promise to bring equality among all, by supplying me with the money to buy hair dye (so I can dye my hair blond), and the money for me to undergo plastic surgeries, so that I can be hot?  After all, you want to "level the playing field", and you want everything and everybody to "have equal chances", right?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21894369 - 07/03/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you can't be that ugly.  and whats with the blonde obsession?
sure, Gentlemen may prefer blondes(:grin:), but many of the rest of us have no particular preference.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21894390 - 07/03/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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you can't be that ugly.  and whats with the blonde obsession?
sure, Gentlemen may prefer blondes(:grin:), but many of the rest of us have no particular preference.




Haha, thanks for saying that I can't be that ugly.  Maybe I am not ugly, but I know for sure that I am definitely not hot, either.  Also, the whole blond thing is just to emphasize that someone is hot.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21894431 - 07/03/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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First of all, what policies am I advocating?  Also, assuming that I am advocating these policies (which I am not.  You are putting words in my mouth), how would they "exacerbate natural inequalities"?

Also, I just have a question for all of you people who are such big supporters of "equality" among all.  Let me ask you this.  Where does this end?  How far are you going to take it?  I am an ugly girl (I am), with raven black hair.  Say I want to compete in a beauty pageant, and I am up against a whole bunch of super-hot blond girls.  Are you going to make good of your promise to bring equality among all, by supplying me with the money to buy hair dye (so I can dye my hair blond), and the money for me to undergo plastic surgeries, so that I can be hot?  After all, you want to "level the playing field", and you want everything and everybody to "have equal chances", right?




Well, it had appeared that you were arguing against Leftist policies, and through my discussions with you, I can only guess that you are a right-winger. I would like to add real quick that anyone calling you a racist is not 'name-calling'. They are making an observation of facts. It doesn't seem to me that you even consider 'racist' to be a dirty word.

As I have said, the Liberal ideal of 'equality' is not the literal equality that you describe. It is a complex issue, and I don't think that the word 'equality' is probably even the best word to describe what Liberals are after. I have to assume that you know better, and as I have said, I don't have the patience to explain liberalism to you, but you can certainly look it up! ;-)

I believe that any philosophy (Even Liberal philosophy) can be warped into extremism beyond reason. Moderation is key to all things in life.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21894474 - 07/03/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Very well said wan. Good logical points and I see the pc crowd is squirming already.

If there is one thing we need its patience.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21894492 - 07/03/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Very well said wan. Good logical points and I see the pc crowd is squirming already.

If there is one thing we need its patience.



hehehe..thanks stoney


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21895725 - 07/04/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Holy fuck! This forum is so fucking stupid.

He wasn't making an appeal to authority or popularity. He was making an observation. The more educated a person is, the less racist they tend to be. This is a fact. They also tend to be less religious depending on their level of education, the higher the degree, the less likely they are to hold religious views.

If he had made an argument based on that fact, it would be a fallacy, and even then it would depend on the argument.

So, your 'intellectual equals' aren't likely to be found in a place for intellectuals.




"the more educated a person is, the less racist they tend to be. This is a fact"

What a bunch of nonsense, the more educated a person is the less likely they PERCEIVE themselves as racist! 

Do you think the white corporate executives, white doctors, white lawyers, ect. are really going to live in a "diverse" community or neighborhood?  Not a chance in hell, so yes when they fill out a survey and they ask them about their opinions on race they are all for "equality" and strong supporters of "diversity" but as long if it isn't for them and their family.

Most educated people are a bunch of phonies when it comes to race and diversity, I know all too many of them.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21896400 - 07/04/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The reason their neighborhoods are less diverse is that white families generally have significantly more wealth, and wealthy people live in wealthy clusters. I was just watching an interview of Chris Rock, and he was saying that there are 4 black families in his neighborhood (all famous, wealthy people). That's because he can afford to live in a wealthy neighborhood, and wealthy neighborhoods are generally comprised of wealthy white folks.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21896692 - 07/04/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The reason their neighborhoods are less diverse is that white families generally have significantly more wealth, and wealthy people live in wealthy clusters. I was just watching an interview of Chris Rock, and he was saying that there are 4 black families in his neighborhood (all famous, wealthy people). That's because he can afford to live in a wealthy neighborhood, and wealthy neighborhoods are generally comprised of wealthy white folks.



If this is true, then we should also see wealthy white people who are wanting to move into wealthy, but black-dominant areas.  This is not what we are seeing.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21896714 - 07/04/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Liberal's motto is "do as I say not as I do" They are all about theory and ignore facts. Not even black people want to move into black areas. They are well aware of the crime problem. Today I am black so I can talk about those things freely. Right mods?

They say aa and other race based handouts are only for those who need it. But a black millionaire can apply just as easily as the guy who works hard to stay alive, much like many whites. Govt contracts go first to minority owned businesses, meaning those owned by rich minorities. Why should they get a handout?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21896754 - 07/04/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Why should they get a handout?



Why shouldn't they?  Everyone else is.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21896864 - 07/04/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>Why shouldn't they?  Everyone else is. (getting a handout)

So you are telling us aa and other race based programs are for "everyone"? Is that what you are saying? Actually they are not.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21896873 - 07/04/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say that.  I said that everyone gets handouts.  Why should wealthy black people be excluded?


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    #21896881 - 07/04/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't say that.  I said that everyone gets handouts.  Why should wealthy black people be excluded?




I don't get handouts, do you? Why do you get handouts and what makes you think everyone does?

> Why should wealthy black people be excluded?

Maybe because the stated purpose of the handouts is to help those in need?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21896892 - 07/04/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Of course you do.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21896903 - 07/04/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are we back to empty statements with nothing to back them up? I guess we are done here then.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21897208 - 07/04/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The reason their neighborhoods are less diverse is that white families generally have significantly more wealth, and wealthy people live in wealthy clusters. I was just watching an interview of Chris Rock, and he was saying that there are 4 black families in his neighborhood (all famous, wealthy people). That's because he can afford to live in a wealthy neighborhood, and wealthy neighborhoods are generally comprised of wealthy white folks.



If this is true, then we should also see wealthy white people who are wanting to move into wealthy, but black-dominant areas.  This is not what we are seeing.




There are no wealthy, black-dominated areas in this country that I'm aware of, though I may be wrong. If I am wrong, I would like to see some examples, and I'm sure the reason will become clear quite quickly.


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    #21897242 - 07/04/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Baldwin Hills, California would certainly qualify.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21897364 - 07/04/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Baldwin Hills:

"History: Long a destination of doctors (hence the early moniker "Pill Hill"), large numbers of African Americans began arriving in Baldwin Hills in the early 1960s. However, unlike the working class who settled in communities like Watts and Compton, Baldwin Hills drew a disproportionate number of black musicians and actors, many of whom were frozen out of affluent westside neighborhoods. Thus, "the Black Beverly Hills" was born."

http://laist.com/2007/08/17/baldwin_hills_los_angeles.php

That was a good example, and segregation seems to be the cause of it's predominantly black population. That said, there are white people who live in Baldwin Hills, and there are black people who live in Beverly Hills. Baldwin Hills appears to have become a center of black wealth, because they were not able to integrate into wealthy white neighborhoods, and black entertainers were starting to make a lot of money, despite the racial climate of the time.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21897403 - 07/04/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This quote sums up my feelings about the removal of the CBF and the taking down of Confederate Monuments.


“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
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