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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21877228 - 06/30/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How have the Poles, Irish, Italians, Japanese, Jews, ect. been doing the last 100 years?  Not so bad and without any liberal "help"!!



I think you just made a compelling argument that racism is still alive and well.  :shrug:

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there's nothing clear about what flying that flag represents, people like you are constantly looking to victimization, what a pathetic way of looking at the world.



Do blacks fly the confederate flag as much as whites?  Perhaps there is more meaning than some are willing to admit.:shrug:




"made a compelling argument that racism is still alive and well"

Really, because several cultures have thrived and the other one has failed?  That's based on the false assumption that all cultures are equal in talent and ambition, and they are not at all.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21877234 - 06/30/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>The black culture now has the mentality of being a full time victim, they have already been defeated.  The only thing that cures them at this point is pure charity, because everything else isn't obtainable in their mindset. So it's give us free stuff because we can't do it on our own, that's a pretty sad attitude in 2015.

This is what their "friends" the moonbats and left wing loonies are pushing on them. They are telling negroes and other groups that they are inferior, can't compete and must have a crutch the rest of their lives and their children as well.

Ironically, the ones who try to empower blacks, encourage them to make it on their own are called racists while the real racists, the liberals, push their corrosive racial policies that make sure most minorities never get ahead. Why not give each black person a wheel chair since they can't compete with anyone?




Now they are comparing blacks to someone who is suffering from malnutrition, what's next, comparing them to the mentally handicapped.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21877239 - 06/30/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm: Stone, I'm starting to think that you don't read anything in my posts, but just project your assumptions onto them. Let me quote for you the exact phrasing from my last post:

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As I stated in my previous post, although it may be harder and they may have fewer resources, black people have every opportunity to succeed in this country. If they don't, that's their own fault.




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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: qman]
    #21877263 - 06/30/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>Now they are comparing blacks to someone who is suffering from malnutrition, what's next, comparing them to the mentally handicapped.

The open message is that its white people's fault and the only cure is more and bigger handouts forever. The hidden message is that those groups are inferior, that is the message the left is sending.

Who in their right mind would say that what happened to distant ancestors, that you never met, would determine what happens to you today? No one, no one in their right mind but the loony left, yes. Put that next to their claim that racist laws are the opposite of racism.

Lets see if we can get one more nutsy statement out of the usual bats. Then there will be 3, we can call it the liberal trifecta.

Its interesting that people who claim to have jobs are here all day posting nonsense. Get a job, you moonbats and you won't have as much to complain about.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #21877457 - 06/30/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BTW, WAN,  i see you guys are white supremacy buddies, and thats cool i guess, but you see that i was right about Stoney making unfounded claims, and then not having the data to back it up.  The instead of admitting it, he tried to deflect(once again) by implying that the data would bear out his hypothesis, if only there were scientists ballsy enough to do the study.  Well guess what guys, there are.  here's what a simple wikipedia search has to say about intelligence among the races:





First of all, I can't be a "white supremacist" because I am Asian.  Secondly, the way I see it, I am not so much a "white supremacist" as I am someone who has eyes and observes things as they are.  Imagine two students, A and B.  Student A takes advanced calculus classes and speaks three languages fluently.  Student B can't even spell his own name.  I think it would be very very reasonable if I said that student A is smarter than student B.  Am I being a "student supremacist"?  No.  Not at all.  I am just being observant and I noticed a difference in intelligence between these two students.  Same logic with races.  I have eyes and I observe any differences in groups of humans (read: races).  White people have accomplished much and contributed a lot to humanity, whereas blacks have done zilch.  I am not being "racist" or "discriminatory" just because I noticed a difference in accomplishments among the races.

also,  you should try to formulate your own argument/s instead of quoting lengthy quotes from some outside source.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21877525 - 06/30/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>I have eyes and I observe any differences in groups of humans

The left would have you close your eyes and rely on their dogma and beliefs rather than reality. Its like the story of the emperor's new clothes. The people were supposed to believe the emperor had new clothes even though they could not see them, rely on faith in other words. They are still using that method today. If anyone doubts the dogma they attack them immediately to make them get in line.

Ballsack hasn't had an original idea yet.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21877664 - 06/30/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>At the start of the game I own all of your pieces and they work for me.  This goes on for 200 turns.  For the next 100 turns I don't let your pieces use any of the stuff they helped me build and I kill them if they piss me off.  For the next 50 years you can play as normal.

What sort of baloney is this?

>How long until you catch up?

With what? You make no sense, you are talking apparently about things that happened hundreds of years ago. What has that to do with what we are today? If you find out you have irish ancestors and they were kept down for a long time, does that stop you from succeeding today?

>Since I know you won't answer I'll answer for you.  You don't.  You're too far behind.  Without help you'll be behind forever.

I'm too far behind because of what happened to my ancestors? Put down the bottle of left wing hootch, you are drunk.

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>These shitty genes make shitty brains

Well, its considered the ultimate taboo to mention it but why should we assume all people are equal in ability? Blacks have more physical ability than the average white. That was important thousands of years ago when being fast and strong was a major survival skill. Now days brain power is much more important than physical skills. If they have an advantage in strength, perhaps they have a disadvantage in other areas? Is that so impossible to consider? Maybe that is why many of them don't get ahead? Some do.





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>The black culture now has the mentality of being a full time victim, they have already been defeated.  The only thing that cures them at this point is pure charity, because everything else isn't obtainable in their mindset. So it's give us free stuff because we can't do it on our own, that's a pretty sad attitude in 2015.

This is what their "friends" the moonbats and left wing loonies are pushing on them. They are telling negroes and other groups that they are inferior, can't compete and must have a crutch the rest of their lives and their children as well.

Ironically, the ones who try to empower blacks, encourage them to make it on their own are called racists while the real racists, the liberals, push their corrosive racial policies that make sure most minorities never get ahead. Why not give each black person a wheel chair since they can't compete with anyone?




ok, so a few posts ago, stoney here insinuates that Blacks have less "brain power" than whites,and now he says that its really all the "moonbats" trying to hold them back while the racists of the world are just trying to "empower" them...
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c'mon bro, don't insult our intelligence.  You can't have it both ways.
of course, neither stonebrains or WAN will address this post, or the one i made before it


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21877986 - 06/30/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
>At the start of the game I own all of your pieces and they work for me.  This goes on for 200 turns.  For the next 100 turns I don't let your pieces use any of the stuff they helped me build and I kill them if they piss me off.  For the next 50 years you can play as normal.

What sort of baloney is this?

>How long until you catch up?

With what? You make no sense, you are talking apparently about things that happened hundreds of years ago. What has that to do with what we are today? If you find out you have irish ancestors and they were kept down for a long time, does that stop you from succeeding today?

>Since I know you won't answer I'll answer for you.  You don't.  You're too far behind.  Without help you'll be behind forever.

I'm too far behind because of what happened to my ancestors? Put down the bottle of left wing hootch, you are drunk.

Wan
>These shitty genes make shitty brains

Well, its considered the ultimate taboo to mention it but why should we assume all people are equal in ability? Blacks have more physical ability than the average white. That was important thousands of years ago when being fast and strong was a major survival skill. Now days brain power is much more important than physical skills. If they have an advantage in strength, perhaps they have a disadvantage in other areas? Is that so impossible to consider? Maybe that is why many of them don't get ahead? Some do.





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>The black culture now has the mentality of being a full time victim, they have already been defeated.  The only thing that cures them at this point is pure charity, because everything else isn't obtainable in their mindset. So it's give us free stuff because we can't do it on our own, that's a pretty sad attitude in 2015.

This is what their "friends" the moonbats and left wing loonies are pushing on them. They are telling negroes and other groups that they are inferior, can't compete and must have a crutch the rest of their lives and their children as well.

Ironically, the ones who try to empower blacks, encourage them to make it on their own are called racists while the real racists, the liberals, push their corrosive racial policies that make sure most minorities never get ahead. Why not give each black person a wheel chair since they can't compete with anyone?




ok, so a few posts ago, stoney here insinuates that Blacks have less "brain power" than whites,and now he says that its really all the "moonbats" trying to hold them back while the racists of the world are just trying to "empower" them...
:yeahthatsfunny:

c'mon bro, don't insult our intelligence.  You can't have it both ways.
of course, neither stonebrains or WAN will address this post, or the one i made before it




Huh what?  I did address your post.  See it again here:

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First of all, I can't be a "white supremacist" because I am Asian.  Secondly, the way I see it, I am not so much a "white supremacist" as I am someone who has eyes and observes things as they are.  Imagine two students, A and B.  Student A takes advanced calculus classes and speaks three languages fluently.  Student B can't even spell his own name.  I think it would be very very reasonable if I said that student A is smarter than student B.  Am I being a "student supremacist"?  No.  Not at all.  I am just being observant and I noticed a difference in intelligence between these two students.  Same logic with races.  I have eyes and I observe any differences in groups of humans (read: races).  White people have accomplished much and contributed a lot to humanity, whereas blacks have done zilch.  I am not being "racist" or "discriminatory" just because I noticed a difference in accomplishments among the races.

also,  you should try to formulate your own argument/s instead of quoting lengthy quotes from some outside source.




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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21878041 - 06/30/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont know why there hasn't been any research at all regarding any disparities in intelligence among the races either, my guess is that this subject is so taboo, that no scientists in their right minds would consider applying for funding for it.

I don't have any cold hard data supporting my belief either, however I still cling to it (my belief), because it just tracks so well with observations.


 

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also,  you should try to formulate your own argument/s instead of quoting lengthy quotes from some outside source.








hmmmmm...anyone else see problem with this?

the funny part, is that if you bothered to click the links, you would have found a bunch of science to dispute my interpretation, but you were too lazy so you stuck to your "my observations" argument.

BTW, congratulations on being asian, now you are immune to all accusations of white supremecy.  Just to be clear, is your position that no race is supreme, or that asians and whites have some sort of shared supremecy?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21878081 - 06/30/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont know why there hasn't been any research at all regarding any disparities in intelligence among the races either, my guess is that this subject is so taboo, that no scientists in their right minds would consider applying for funding for it.

I don't have any cold hard data supporting my belief either, however I still cling to it (my belief), because it just tracks so well with observations.


 

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also,  you should try to formulate your own argument/s instead of quoting lengthy quotes from some outside source.








hmmmmm...anyone else see problem with this?

the funny part, is that if you bothered to click the links, you would have found a bunch of science to dispute my interpretation, but you were too lazy so you stuck to your "my observations" argument.




I assure you that it wasn't "laziness" on my part that "caused" me to not click on your links.  I have very short attention span and I don't like to read long-winded things.  I also much prefer to read arguments that posters themselves actually make. 

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BTW, congratulations on being asian, now you are immune to all accusations of white supremecy.  Just to be clear, is your position that no race is supreme, or that asians and whites have some sort of shared supremecy?




I believe that Asians are inferior to White people.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21878119 - 06/30/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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WAN said:
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ballsalsa said:
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WAN said:
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I dont know why there hasn't been any research at all regarding any disparities in intelligence among the races either, my guess is that this subject is so taboo, that no scientists in their right minds would consider applying for funding for it.

I don't have any cold hard data supporting my belief either, however I still cling to it (my belief), because it just tracks so well with observations.


 

Quote:

also,  you should try to formulate your own argument/s instead of quoting lengthy quotes from some outside source.








hmmmmm...anyone else see problem with this?

the funny part, is that if you bothered to click the links, you would have found a bunch of science to dispute my interpretation, but you were too lazy so you stuck to your "my observations" argument.




I assure you that it wasn't "laziness" on my part that "caused" me to not click on your links.  I have very short attention span and I don't like to read long-winded things.  I also much prefer to read arguments that posters themselves actually make. 

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BTW, congratulations on being asian, now you are immune to all accusations of white supremacy.  Just to be clear, is your position that no race is supreme, or that asians and whites have some sort of shared supremecy?




I believe that Asians are inferior to White people.




so, to summarize,
you thought that there was no research done on intelligence differences between racial groups, and lamented that it could only be because the subject was taboo.
I produced the data for you
you didn't read it, not because you are lazy, but because you have a short attention span
You are an admitted white supremacist(albeit an asian one)

did i miss anything?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21878138 - 06/30/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno, those eastern people seem to do very well in all fields. No need for handouts to keep them from going under, just hard work. Now before the loony left starts telling us they didn't face any prejudice, lets not forget the camps during ww2 in which anyone with Japanese ancestry was sent even if they were americans. In fact just an oriental appearance was enough to be sent to the camps. In addition to that, they were discriminated against in housing, jobs, and everything else.

According to the moonbat theory, they should have lost all will to work after their ancestors were treated badly. Somehow they convinced the public they were hard workers. Now they get preference in many areas of employment. Is that racism? Perhaps. Or is it common sense?

Now the bats will ignore facts and once again tell us some nonsense. Liberals are all about feelings, facts are cold hard things they try to avoid.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21878156 - 06/30/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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so, to summarize,
you thought that there was no research done on intelligence differences between racial groups, and lamented that it could only be because the subject was taboo.
I produced the data for you
you didn't read it, not because you are lazy, but because you have a short attention span
You are an admitted white supremacist(albeit an asian one)

did i miss anything?




You pretty much go it.  Although I would not call myself a "white supremacist" (although I am sure that to you, I am).  I like to call myself someone who is being realistic when it comes to racial matters.  I pull no punches and I do not mince words.  I tell it like it is and I don't care if I offend anybody.

p.s. you sound like you are trying to set up a psychological profile on me, lol


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21878174 - 06/30/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Okay folks, let's clear up a few things. First of all, you can have and fly/wear/whatever the aforementioned banner anywhere and anytime you want. A few states are removing these flags from state grounds, and that's about it. Walmart and other retailers are also removing battle flag-inspired merchandise as well, but they're doing it strictly on their own as well. The evul libral gubmint is not forcing anybody from displaying/selling such doo-dads. Y'all are making much ado about nothing, really.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21878231 - 06/30/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I dunno, those eastern people seem to do very well in all fields. No need for handouts to keep them from going under, just hard work. Now before the loony left starts telling us they didn't face any prejudice, lets not forget the camps during ww2 in which anyone with Japanese ancestry was sent even if they were americans. In fact just an oriental appearance was enough to be sent to the camps. In addition to that, they were discriminated against in housing, jobs, and everything else.

According to the moonbat theory, they should have lost all will to work after their ancestors were treated badly. Somehow they convinced the public they were hard workers. Now they get preference in many areas of employment. Is that racism? Perhaps. Or is it common sense?

Now the bats will ignore facts and once again tell us some nonsense. Liberals are all about feelings, facts are cold hard things they try to avoid.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Asian_Americans

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Most Asian Americans who immigrated to the United States arrived after 1965, due to immigration reform that allowed for immigration from a wider range of countries.[15]




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The total population of Asian Americans grew by 46 percent from 2000 to 2010 according to the Census Bureau, which constituted the largest increase of any major racial group during that period.[22]




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Asian American population growth is fueled largely by immigration. Natural population growth accounts for a small proportion of the 43 percent increase in total Asian American population between 2000 and 2010.[31]





some facts :shrug:


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #21879270 - 06/30/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:facepalm: Stone, I'm starting to think that you don't read anything in my posts, but just project your assumptions onto them.



I spend half my posts to him correcting him for this very reason.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21880993 - 07/01/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jesus. Every thread is racist junk these days. What the fuck?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21881575 - 07/01/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because we have a black President, that means racism no longer exists, so people are now free to be as racist as they like.  :shrug:


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #21881944 - 07/01/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Except people aren't anywhere nears as racist as it seems you would like.

The last remaining institutionalized racism in the US is affirmative action.

Those that support it are truly racist.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #21881953 - 07/01/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Affirmative action is racist, but there are plenty of other examples of institutionalized racism.


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