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Latest attempt to ban confederate flag
    #21832348 - 06/20/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They are using the excuse of that retard who shot some black people recently to ban the flag. Is that the stupidest thing you ever heard? Did a flag make him do it? No, its the latest round from the pc crowd in their never ending battle to bully everyone into submission and make them conform to pc standards.

Now all the moonbats will speak in favor of it, fal, moon, gotta, and the rest of the usual suspects. A few rational voices will speak up for freedom of expression and be attacked as racists. In other words, business as usual.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/20/charleston-shooting-confederate-flag-south-carolina

Pressure is mounting on South Carolina to pull down the Confederate flag that continues to fly on the grounds of the state capitol, after a Republican legislator announced plans to introduce a bill to remove the divisive symbol that has inflamed feelings in the wake of the Charleston church shootings.

Norman “Doug” Brannon, a white legislator, said on MSNBC that he wanted to introduce the bill because of the death of his friend Clementa Pinckney, a reverend and state senator who was pastor of the Emanuel AME church and one of nine worshippers gunned down there on Wednesday night.

“I’m not political tonight, but I do have access and I will file that bill in December,” Brannon said.

The flag, which represents the region that seceded from the Union in 1861 in defense of slavery, has become the focus of rising tension in South Carolina as a result of the racist opinions expressed by the suspected shooter, Dylann Roof, 21, who was arrested a day after the rampage in a car that bore the Confederate icon. The Battle Flag of the Northern Virginia Army, as the controversial banner is also known, once flew above the state house dome, but was moved to its current location still in state grounds in 2000.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21833271 - 06/20/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That article isn't about banning the flag, though.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #21835448 - 06/21/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Now all the moonbats will speak in favor of it, fal, moon, gotta, and the rest of the usual suspects. A few rational voices will speak up for freedom of expression and be attacked as racists. In other words, business as usual.





Is it really necessary for you to attack people who haven't even participated in this thread yet? You should be able to state your case without insulting people who aren't even here.


And, as Enlil mentioned, this article is not about banning the confederate flag. It's about not flying it at the state capitol, two very different things.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21837472 - 06/21/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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They are using the excuse of that retard who shot some black people recently to ban the flag. Is that the stupidest thing you ever heard? Did a flag make him do it? No, its the latest round from the pc crowd in their never ending battle to bully everyone into submission and make them conform to pc standards.

Now all the moonbats will speak in favor of it, fal, moon, gotta, and the rest of the usual suspects. A few rational voices will speak up for freedom of expression and be attacked as racists. In other words, business as usual.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/20/charleston-shooting-confederate-flag-south-carolina

Pressure is mounting on South Carolina to pull down the Confederate flag that continues to fly on the grounds of the state capitol, after a Republican legislator announced plans to introduce a bill to remove the divisive symbol that has inflamed feelings in the wake of the Charleston church shootings.

Norman “Doug” Brannon, a white legislator, said on MSNBC that he wanted to introduce the bill because of the death of his friend Clementa Pinckney, a reverend and state senator who was pastor of the Emanuel AME church and one of nine worshippers gunned down there on Wednesday night.

“I’m not political tonight, but I do have access and I will file that bill in December,” Brannon said.

The flag, which represents the region that seceded from the Union in 1861 in defense of slavery, has become the focus of rising tension in South Carolina as a result of the racist opinions expressed by the suspected shooter, Dylann Roof, 21, who was arrested a day after the rampage in a car that bore the Confederate icon. The Battle Flag of the Northern Virginia Army, as the controversial banner is also known, once flew above the state house dome, but was moved to its current location still in state grounds in 2000.






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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #21842756 - 06/22/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Now all the moonbats will speak in favor of it, fal, moon, gotta, and the rest of the usual suspects. A few rational voices will speak up for freedom of expression and be attacked as racists. In other words, business as usual.





Is it really necessary for you to attack people who haven't even participated in this thread yet? You should be able to state your case without insulting people who aren't even here.




I don't think he was really trying to "insult" or "attack" those posters.  It just seemed like he was trying to express his strong disapproval of those people and their views.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: WAN]
    #21844347 - 06/23/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First of all, those posters haven't even expressed their views yet. At the very least he could wait until he finds out what their view is before expressing his disapproval.

Second, there are ways to express disapproval without calling posters "moonbats". We are here to debate ideas, and that shouldn't involve insults directed at other people. In fact, that's the first official rule in this forum, and I think we'd see much higher quality debate in this forum if it was respected.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21844373 - 06/23/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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all the moonbats will speak in favor of it, fal, moon, gotta, and the rest of the usual suspects. A few rational voices will speak up for freedom of expression and be attacked as racists.



Wrong AGAIN.  This is probably the least important thing the state can do right now.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21845674 - 06/23/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

why don't you cry about it bitch?


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21845769 - 06/23/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This move is to demonize everything associated with that flag in one swift move with the stench of white guilt across the nation. Now Walmart, ebay, and Sears are stopping the sales of merchandise with the flag. Where the hell does it end? Now anyone who owns something with the image of the flag on it is an instant evil racist and will probably get assaulted in some way by overzealous PC individuals.

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San Jose online auction site Ebay followed the lead of Walmart and Sears in taking a stance against the sales of Confederate flag items following the shooting of nine members of an historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina.



http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/06/23/ebay-follows-walmart-sears-banning-listings-of-confederate-flags-following/


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21845867 - 06/23/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm with you.  It's PC gone amok.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21845930 - 06/23/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just as I said, its a move to ban the flag altogether and the weak kneed scum are the first to fall in line.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21845965 - 06/23/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No - as Enlil pointed out, this isn't about banning the flag.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21845978 - 06/23/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's no move to ban the flag at all.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21845996 - 06/23/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just planting more seeds of guilt in the heads of white people.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21846009 - 06/23/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe, but banning the confederate flag would never pass constitutional scrutiny.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21846025 - 06/23/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

>this isn't about banning the flag.

Your naivette is surpassed only by your pc blindness. Its clear to anyone with any sense that this is exactly what they hope to accomplish and the fact some companies caved in shows that as well. The pc crowd never tells the truth about what its trying to do or about much else.

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>planting more seeds of guilt in the heads of white people.

Exactly, and this is what the msm has been doing for decades. You can spot the sheep because they always gobble down propaganda and spew it back without giving any thought at all. People wonder how hitler was able to propagandize the public so easily. The usa msm has copied his methods to a "T". Goebels would get hired in an instant at a pr firm if he was alive today.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #21846057 - 06/23/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is about freedom of speech.  People are free to display the confederate flag, and walmart is free not to sell them.  That's how freedom works.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21846083 - 06/23/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They also turned the flag and any image of it into a symbol of racism and hatred. Now there are flags all over the country that will spark more racial tension than it ever has in the past.


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    #21846202 - 06/23/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not exactly.  The confederate flag has been a symbol of racism and hatred for over 100 years.  It's a bit intellectually dishonest to claim that any discussion today is really a factor in that.


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Re: Latest attempt to ban confederate flag [Re: Enlil]
    #21846254 - 06/23/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly.  Perhaps this helps those who hang the confederate flag see what other people have seen all along.  :shrug:


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