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Dead couple dream
    #21830740 - 06/20/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just had this dream, not sure where to post but I was wondering if anyone could perhaps interpretate it. I am a firm believer in dreams and this particular one left me really quite shocked, everything was just so real.

A bit of information you should know before reading on;

  • I know all the people in the dream

  • The dead couple used to live with me 3 years ago. We had a falling out and I kicked them out cause they were slobs, wouldn't clean up and constantly defied me even though I owned the apartment and tried numerous times to tell them in a nice way to clean up.

  • The boyfriend, when living with me with his girlfriend, expressed to me numerous times how we don't connect with one another often and wanted to get to know me better. We never did.

  • The girlfriend was my first girlfriend when I was 14. We remained friends and I helped her out through a lot of tough situations in her life. She's adopted, her real mum is a prostitute, her real father is a heroine addict. She never met them apart from making fb contact with her mum and 2 real brothers. She lost her adoptive grandpa to cancer (in her words, the only man she ever truly loved like a father). She was in a depression for years. We haven't talked since the falling out

  • Both of them are still alive today. They were only dead in the dream.

  • Both of them loved cats and each one had one specific cat that was always there for them. The boyfriend had an old, blind and deaf cat who would only respond to him. The girlfriend had a ginger cat whom she had numerous cry sessions with.

  • The house in the dream is my old childhood house. It's still there, my dad lives there alone after my mum divorced him. Its still in good shape and not much has changed.

  • While out on the beach in the dream, the people walking in the opposite direction of me were people that betrayed me in some way. They made eye contact with me in the dream, smiled and just continued moving. They were on the left walking south, I was on the right, walking north.

  • I have no idea what "Bisukuken" means nor did I ever listen to such a band. A quick google search yielded nothing.




The Dream:

I was out, with my school friends on this beach. The beach was not something to look at, old dirty sand, drift wood everywhere. We were with our school, on an outing, some beach day. I was pacing around and walking up the beach, alone. I saw an orchard of apple trees, there were not many apples, just a few green apples and I wanted one. Before I could grab one I was scorned by our school receptionists and was told "Do not take, it's not yours" so I left it alone, continued to walk around the beach before heading back to my friends. As I was walking, I saw other people walk, all in the opposite direction. They were the faces of people I used to know, people I am weary of and people whom I do not like very much.

Time was fast, it was getting really late so I turn around and go back to my friends. I find my friends, I can't remember who they where, but them behind a cleft of rocks which opened to a sort of yard/driveway and at the end was my old house, abandoned, broken and forgotten. Even I could not recognize it but something had happened here, I knew it and so did my friends. Some one had committed suicide here and I remembered a couple of mumbles so we all decide to move in and spend the night there to check it out.

We move into the house, it was very dirty, smelly, lots of trash, broken tiles, rusted pipes and broken down ceilings. We moved into what looked like a courtyard/slash garage. There were no tilings on the floor, the roof was half way collapsed and you could see the rusted pipes still connected to each other criss-crossing the ceiling that was once there. There was a wall and some of it was run down. There was a door but it was barred shut but you get to the other-side of the wall through a hole in the wall that fell down. I did not go, my friend did cause he wanted to see if they are still there. I didn't know who he was talking about.

I was waiting for him to come back while my other friends, including my sister, went around the house to explore other rooms. My friend came back and told me "Yup, they are still there" and I asked "Who?" and my friend looked at me confused and told me "The couple. They are still hanging there, no one has taken them down yet". I decided to have a look myself and as I entered the other-side of the wall and I finally understood what my friend was talking about. Rope was attached to a couple of the rusted pipes still hanging from the ceilings and at the end other end, 2 old rotted out bodies of people I knew. They are a couple in real life, I haven't seen them in a very very long time and in this dream they were both hanging together, holding hands, dead. The bodies were all dehydrated, gray/bluish, mostly covered in dust and debris and they just stood there, in silence. All you could hear was the rickety sound of the rope twisting. The girl's corpse kinda turned a bit, moved by the draft entering the room and I looked straight into her eyes and into her face. It looked tormented and abused. Her eyes were all white and also appeared to still have water in them, her hair all matted, torn and shredded and her mouth was open with a rag stuffed down her throat, the other end of the rag came hanging out of her mouth. I looked over and stared into her face from a distance, the image was clear as the whitened snow and it was a very a sad sight to see. I remember thinking and feeling in the dream a surge of tragedy and a sadness washing over me. The hanging corpse continued to hang and be tossed around by the draft. I decided to leave and leave them in peace so I climbed over the wall and left the room. I was walking towards my friends and I remembered I turned my head around and look at that courtyard/wall and again sadness overcame me. I knew now what was behind that wall.

We were on the second floor of my house, some of the old furniture I grew up with was still there but everything else was just like previously described, old, torn, broken down, dusty, dirty, lots of litter, the air smelt foul and damp. For some reason we decided to take a break and stay here. We sat down. They were all talking among themselves, on what I do not recall but I stayed very quiet. All of a sudden, tiny orbs started to appear, they were white small balls, the size of marbles, floating about, appearing, disappearing and reappearing. I was shocked and could feel my pupils dilate and I told the others "There are orbs. They are waking up. We need to leave" but no one wanted to and for some reason they wanted to sleep there. There were bedrooms, in the same location as my real house, fully furnished, untouched, clean, with clean sheets over the bed, new lampshades and there was electricity. Some of them got comfortable, tucked themselves in and wanted to stay there. I wasn't comfortable, something was clearly wrong.

There were sounds, footsteps and I knew there was someone pacing outside but I could not see. The weirdest part, I was in the bedroom, with the dead girlfriend only she wasn't dead, she was alive and one of my friends. I did not notice. We weren't doing anything, she was tucked in bed, trying to listen to some music on her laptop and we were just talking. I was confiding to her about how this place is haunted and that we shouldn't stay here cause we are disturbing. She agreed with me and clearly stated that something felt different, something was strange and it did not feel normal. Me and her decided to walk out and explore to see what's up and what the others are doing. No one else seemed to notice, not even my sister and when I kept expressing that something was wrong no one believed me, or noticed that I was with the previously dead girlfriend that was hanging by the rope downstairs. When we walked out of the bedroom, the house just looked abandoned, trash everywhere, broken down ceilings, damp, mold on the walls, the whole works of a really old abandoned house.

We climbed downstairs. Surprisingly the electricity was still working. The lights were red, blue, white and yellow. When me and her reached the bottom of the stairs we tried to turn off the lights. The red lights turned off but the blue, white and yellow lights were still on and no matter how many times I flicked the switch they wouldn't go off and kept being flickering. Something was preventing them from being turned on. I expressed concern to my friend, only this time when I turned to faced my companion, it wasn't the dead girlfriend anymore but it was the boyfriend and just like her, he was alive. He expressed to me his concern and how freaked out he was feeling. We heard footsteps pacing around on top of us and from the stairway I could see my cat, walking towards the footsteps. The cat paused for a second, and started hitting the air with his paws and I could sense that the cat was seeing something we could not see. The cat then turned defensive, pricked his ears back, his fur was all spikey and began to hiss and growl loudly still hitting the air with his paws. I was begging for the cat to tell the spirit, or whoever it was to let us turn off the lights. The cat continued to be aggressive, the footsteps faded and I heard the click of a switch and lights turned off. It was a relief, and me and the previously dead boyfriend moved back to the courtyard where the hanging couple were only they were not there anymore.

We decided to leave, I was freaked out and so was he and as we were walking out my sister came running towards me, panting and looking all panicked. I asked her what happened and told her we should seriously leave, it wasn't safe but she just started giggling and explained to me how she just had a fright cause she saw 2 rats in the kitchen. It's as if she just outright ignored me and what I just told her and she was reluctant to notice the corpses were missing or that the dead boyfriend was with me. She then told me how she's going to remain here and how this place does not freak her out, it's her old home and does not believe it is haunted.

Me and the dead boyfriend walked outside, got in his car and driven off. We went to a different beach, on top a small viewpoint and parked there and stayed on his phone's 3G listening to music, some abstract underground band called "Bishukuken". The music video was weird, trippy and just abstract and I remember the dead boyfriend looking at the phone and the music video and said "Ah, you're listening to Bisukuken, no wonder you're confused" and gave a sly laugh and the dream ended just us, there, in his car listening to this band and watching the music video. I remember it was the crack of dawn, the sun was just about coming up.


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21831287 - 06/20/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21833041 - 06/20/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My question to you (as a psychotherapist with 30+ of experience, 8 years of Jungian analysis & dream interpretation, and advanced training in the Jungian school) is: Are you consciously becoming aware of a change in your sexual orientation? Are you discovering, contemplating, or otherwise coming to terms with bisexual tendencies? This would be my first question, but as this is a public forum, and you are a stranger, my query is perhaps not answered publicly, but you did inquire in a public forum. If you want to respond here before I go on, that's fine. Otherwise feel free to PM me. :shrug:

Incidentally, images of people in dreams have little or nothing to do with people we might know. Dream images symbolize aspects of our own psyche, projected upon images gleaned from our waking life because for some reason something in them has reflected something about you in your conscious life. Remember, every aspect of dreams including landscapes are aspects of your own psyche. My childhood home, for example, is the stage in 90% of my dreams. I am unconsciously attached to the formative years of my childhood from 30 months of age to age 24 when I moved away permanently. All kinds of developmental issues, milestones, and events (my brother was conceived there, first love (for my baby-sitter), first drunk (almost dying), first trip, only astral projection, burying my childhood dog, and even getting married right over the place of that burial, etc.) are connected to that locus in my mind. Therefore the place is a kind of alchemical vessel in which my psyche was being worked on by archetypal influences.


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21837070 - 06/21/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That is a goddamn awesome dream and description of it.  I really enjoyed reading that.  Great ending too.


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21844278 - 06/23/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly? Not even close. I had my fair share of bi-sexual tendencies when I was 14 and that only lasted for a couple of months. I do not even believe I was really bi-sexual and was just following a phase where all of a sudden being bi-sexual was cool and "in".

I'm straight and have been for all my life (except that phase when I was 14), had a girlfriend for 4 years+, I wank to women, hit on women and am pretty much in love with women's asses and titties too much. I am perfectly sound in my sexuality and have no problem passing a compliment to a guy or admitting that a guy is handsome or good-looking.

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That is a goddamn awesome dream and description of it.  I really enjoyed reading that.  Great ending too.




I'm glad you enjoyed it :super: hehe I used to run a dream blog cause I have such frequent vivid dreams


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21844381 - 06/23/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All well and good, but your response is overly enthusiastic, even defensive. There is sufficient imagery in your dream to suggest the death of heterosexual relationship or I would not have even mentioned it. I am confident in my interpretations of dream imagery, but as I said, a public forum is not the venue for discussing personal matters regardless of your protestations. Chalking up your tendency to a brief episode based on what you perceive as having been "cool" or "in" does nothing to negate the fact that you DO have a bisexual tendency strong enough to have emerged howsoever briefly. So I am NOT "not even close," but have perceived the obvious presence that  you have repressed into your unconscious. Just because you have rejected that tendency from consciousness doesn't negate it. Appreciating women's bodies is not inimical to a bisexual orientation. A childhood friend told me he is 60% for females and 40%  for males, and has chosen to live with a woman for years. But this does not negate that 40% tendency! Answering to someone who asks if you think a man is handsome is one thing, but complimenting a man on his looks is an issue of an entirely different magnitude. I have gay, bi and a transgendered friend, but I have never complimented a man for his looks. Achievements, yes, looks no. You inquired, I responded. End of discussion based on the data supplied. :shrug:


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #21844468 - 06/23/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21849004 - 06/24/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Relax, I was not being defensive or enthusiastic, it might sound that way cause it's on a forum where there is little tone. I merely was trying to give information. I too have transgender, bi and gay friends and they have hit on me a couple of times but never did I have a desire to be with them in any way other than friendship.

I did not reject the idea of me being a bi-sexual but came to terms that it was probably a phase since during that time I was also going through an "emo" phase and part of that "image" was to be bi-sexual where I made a conscious decision to be bi-sexual. I've never been with a man emotionally or sexually 

I find nothing bi-sexual complimenting a man on his looks. If a man comes to me and asks "How do I look?" I would be honest with them. If I think he looks handsome, then I'll say he looks handsome. That's all that I meant.

When I replied with "not even close" it was a response to your question "Are you discovering, contemplating, or otherwise coming to terms with bisexual tendencies?" and not that you are absolutely wrong in your interpretation :shrug:

It could all well and be that there is some percentage in me that might be bi-sexual but I am fairly confident in my orientation and to which gender I am attracted to

Thank you for your response I honestly appreciate it :biggrin:


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21850199 - 06/24/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are less rigid emotionally, which is a positive thing, in case you thought I was being pejorative. Time does not permit a detailed analysis of each dream image, which requires recall of the emotions that attended each image. You did a good job of relating all of that dream, and dreams that are so compelling that that scream for further elucidation might be considered to be "Big Dreams," a Native American expression that Jung adopted for dreams with archetypal presence to them (as opposed to small dreams which are often little more than a rehashing of one's day). When one's orientation can move somewhat on the Straight-Bi-Gay continuum, but one makes the decision to remain within one of the extremes (say, one marries a woman and wishes to remain faithful), then one suppresses and represses other possible orientations into the unconscious where they continues to live and appear in dreams. Sometimes conscious attitudes  penetrate the unconscious. When I've had sexual dreams over my adult years, I've stopped and told my dream-partner that I can't have sex because I'm married. The dreams were not lucid, I did not realize I was dreaming, but the conscious value of marital fidelity proved to have gone deeply into my psyche and was not merely provisional or a thin veneer in consciousness.

On the other hand, on a couple of occasions I encountered my Shadow, my rejected suppressed and repressed possibilities, in the form of a hip-length brown leather jacketed male prostitute, hanging underneath some elevated train in some grungy dark urban dreamscape. This is something that I feel emotionally abhorrent  to in my conscious life, something I would never consider in waking life. The Shadow is comprised of any rejected possibilities, among other things. So, in the case of hard-core sociopathic criminals, they will have disturbing dreams of THEIR Shadow self as being made of repressed and suppressed benevolent and even saintly characteristics. These kind of dreams elicit feelings of guilt, shame, and remorse that criminals would never entertain in their waking lives as they would interfere with behaving in cruel and criminal ways. Dreaming that one is a saint can prove to be a nightmare for a sociopath! :lol: Reminds me of serial killer Hannibal Lecter being tortured by his jailer with incessant Christian TV broadcasts.


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21857858 - 06/25/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dreams are more feeling than symbol i have found;


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Re: Dead couple dream [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21860664 - 06/26/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was going through a break up with my girlfriend at the time of the dream. At first I was thinking that the death of a couple was the death of our relationship, or so I thought. I didn't think it would be related to my sexual orientation. Now it just got me thinking hehe


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