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Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 * 2
    #21830533 - 06/19/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So me and three of my other friends this year happened to be one of those lucky vehicles that got to be searched by police upon entry this year at Roo. Three out of four of us happened to have weed on us, but we were prepared. We all had our stash secured well on our persons and they searched our vehicle well. I can't tell you how hard we were cheesing after it was over because those fucks got nothing from us. The worst part is now Coffee County has a new judge and gone are the days where they just confiscated your stuff and gave you a fine. Now if you're caught you have to do the whole nine yards and go through the system. I had a friend get caught with LSD a couple years ago and got off scott free except for a $2400 fine he had to pay which is lucky for him. I love Roo, but it gets worse every year. This year was perhaps one of the worst police presences I've ever seen. Sheriffs were even riding down the rows at times by campsites when I had never seen that before. This is the last time I ever bring weed in, but keeping green on your actual person is the best way to avoid getting caught. Everyone getting popped there was because they had it somewhere in the vehicle.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: PsilocybinPsycho1]
    #21830598 - 06/19/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Was it just a random search or why exactly were you singled out of the crowd? It's really lame that they cracked down at a festival. If it wasn't for drugs, I wouldn't even wanna go to one. :shrug:

And how the fudge did your friend get caught with acid? It has to be the easiest drug to conceal.

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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Detached]
    #21830645 - 06/19/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bonnaroo has sucked for a while now.

Actually, it seems like it's sucked so long it might really have always sucked.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: D.M.T]
    #21830681 - 06/19/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Roo was awesome as fuck in '02 and '03... after that.. shit went downhill in a hurry.
'05 was the last year I went. And Dave Matthew's Band were headlining and there were people getting popped left and right coming and leaving and it was turning into a yuppie brofest. That was enough for me.
Can't even really imagine how bad it is 10 years later. Place is a cop magnet.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Shroomism]
    #21830950 - 06/20/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

tHis happened to me in my area for an epic festival called Where Life Begins.

Every year, for 3 years it got worst and worst, infested with cops. On the third year, the cops "closed" the road to the festival land/property. So sad.

I see this a lot.

Good thinking OP. I was gunna guess u hid your stash in your engine comparment somewhere :shrug:

I think the best place to put them is under your nutz (if you have the nutz to tuck it under)


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21831349 - 06/20/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

roo got bought out by Live Nation

i seriously wouldnt bother anymore

seriously, idk why people go to festivals in conservative areas of the country. its just asking to be arrested

bonnaroo sucks in pretty much everyway. if people are getting arrested for fucking weed, that festival sucks


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21831560 - 06/20/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What is the probable cause to search your car? I don't get why people just blindly comply with this shit.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21831581 - 06/20/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What is the probable cause to search your car? I don't get why people just blindly comply with this shit.



I was thinking the same thing. Closest I can guess is it is on private property and they have some local ordinance that they have to let cops search concert goers in order to obtain permits for the show. :shrug: If that's the case the promoters are more guilty of violating rights than the cops are.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21831610 - 06/20/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What is the probable cause to search your car? I don't get why people just blindly comply with this shit.





going to a festival is not a right. if you wanna go inside the festival then yiu have to follow their rules

buying a ticket if essentially signing a contract saying you will follow their rules or be subject to ejection



so basically if you dont want you car searched then you can leave. people usually wanna go inside so they follow the festivals rules


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21831630 - 06/20/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck them if they let the cops search people at the entrance.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21831781 - 06/20/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

being searched by cops does suck

ive never seen that at a festival, like at least just for people trying to get inside


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak] * 1
    #21831810 - 06/20/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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being searched by cops does suck

ive never seen that at a festival, like at least just for people trying to get inside



I've been searched going into concerts before and sports games but always by private security and yeah it does suck so I always make a scene being real loud saying stupid shit like stop that it tickles and laugh like a school girl the security always just pass me through and are like get the fuck outa here and send me on my way. Homophobia can be a powerful weapon. :thatsayes:


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21831813 - 06/20/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What is the probable cause to search your car? I don't get why people just blindly comply with this shit.




I don't think they have probable cause. The last year I went.. (10 fucking years ago)... they had troopers lined up ALL over the side of interstate coming into Roo. You could not go to Roo without passing at least like 50 cops. They were just pulling people over left and fucking right and searching their cars. They will make up probable cause. Most people are out of state so they don't have the means to fight it. They count on that.
They just target people who look like they are going to the fest. Anyone with a bunch of camping gear in the back they will profile and pull over for some bullshit.

They would also have cops lined up outside to catch people leaving. It was a total clusterfuck... I stopped going to that fest after it became a fucking cop magnet... they probably make 90% of their income for the year from people going to that fest.

The bonnaroo security would search you when you came in, but they didn't do a very thorough search. It was the cops outside the festival that would fuck everyone over.

Now they have fucking cops INSIDE the festival, roaming by people's tents and shit. Fuck. That. Shit.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: PsilocybinPsycho1]
    #21831849 - 06/20/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Any large gathering that becomes popular loses its appeal to the original attendees.  This is just a fact of these types of things. Also a fact, from the moment someone talks about how awesome the drugs were at this type of event, the more of the "wrong" type of people attend and the more likely law enforcement presence will increase.  It also increases the cost of attendance because of the liability to the show producers if someone were to die.

Find a group of friends, find a place to camp.  Share stories and drugs and everyone will have everyone else's back.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21831894 - 06/20/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What is the probable cause to search your car? I don't get why people just blindly comply with this shit.





Bonnaroo is a private event on private property, you can refuse a search but they
can refuse you admittance to the venue and do not have to refund your ticket price


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21832281 - 06/20/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is why I avoid big festivals like the plague. I much prefer the smaller festies. The vibe is so much better and you don't have the militarized police brigade pouncing on good people and trying to wring out your pockets to get "their share".


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21832310 - 06/20/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832315 - 06/20/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.






if you say no you dont go to the festival lol

get real dude...the shit you just said is laughable



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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21832328 - 06/20/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Since when do the cops need probable cause to search you :youseethisshit:


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    #21832334 - 06/20/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Since when do the cops need probable cause to search you :youseethisshit:





its funny watching people act like they can do whatever they want at a festival


a festival is not a right, its a privelage...you have to follow their rules


if you dont like them, youre free to leave...but youre not getting inside of you try to act like you know your rights (which some people clearly dont)


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21832335 - 06/20/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

also, this is the kinda BULLSHIT that happens at bonnaroo

fuck this festival on soooooo many levels


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21832343 - 06/20/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.




Good luck with that with Tennessee cops on the prowl at Bonnaroo.
I knew a guy who pulled that, he didn't have anything on him, cops pulled him over for nothing and tried to search his car going in, he refused.. they called the dogs (which were like 50 feet away).. they triggered a fake alert and falsely arrested him while they tore his car to shreds. They couldn't find anything illegal in his car which pissed them the fuck off, they ended up giving him like 3 tickets for some bullshit. I'm pretty sure he told me they knocked out his rear tail light while searching and then gave him a ticket for that. They also fucked the interior of his car up, he tried to sue them later for damages but it got completely shut down.

Most people don't get that lucky, since most people are carrying.

You can think you can flex your rights, but they don't give a single fuck about your perceived rights. Cops are above the law don't you know?

If you think you're going to sue the cops later on and get your money back.... real good luck with that too.

It's a much bigger hassle for them than for you? WTF are you even talking about? It's their bread and butter... they are fucking over clueless out of staters who mostly don't have the capital to fight them. They have virtually unlimited resources to fight in court, you don't. And the courts almost always side with the cop.

You might get lucky if you have some good lawyers, and maybe a few years later you might get some of the damages back if you are really lucky. But don't think for a second that's standard. Most people just get fucked. Many cops don't operate on the law, they will do whatever the fuck they can do make a bust.. it's all income generation for them.. and bonnarroo is their fucking cash cow.

The much safer bet is just staying the fuck away from Bonnaroo.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Shroomism]
    #21832350 - 06/20/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.




Good luck with that with Tennessee cops on the prowl at Bonnaroo.
I knew a guy who pulled that, he didn't have anything on him, cops pulled him over for nothing and tried to search his car going in, he refused.. they called the dogs (which were like 50 feet away).. they triggered a fake alert and falsely arrested him while they tore his car to shreds. They couldn't find anything illegal in his car which pissed them the fuck off, they ended up giving him like 3 tickets for some bullshit. I'm pretty sure he told me they knocked out his rear tail light while searching and then gave him a ticket for that. They also fucked the interior of his car up, he tried to sue them later for damages but it got completely shut down.

Most people don't get that lucky, since most people are carrying.

You can think you can flex your rights, but they don't give a single fuck.

If you think you're going to sue the cops later on and get your money back.... real good luck with that too.

It's a much bigger hassle for them than for you? WTF are you even talking about? It's their bread and butter... they are fucking over clueless out of staters who mostly don't have the capitol to fight them.

You might get lucky if you have some good lawyers, and maybe a few years later you might get some of the damages back if you are really lucky. But don't think for a second that's standard. Most people just get fucked. Many cops don't operate on the law, they will do whatever the fuck they can do make a bust.. it's all income generation for them.. and bonnarroo is their fucking cash cow.






yeah exactly

if you make a big deal out of it, youre basically saying you WANT to me fucked with and that you probly have drugs on you

just be quiet and if your drugs are hidden well like they shud be, you wont have a problem

pulling the "i know my rights" card is the dumbest fucking shit you can do


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21832383 - 06/20/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So we should all just lay down and take whatever shit the cops, private business and others want to dump on us? That's what I hear some people saying. In the past people had some backbone, they didn't trade wimpy stories about someone who got their car trashed because they stood up for their rights. If you lot were in charge back in 1776 we would still be a vassal state of England taking orders and being their bitch.

Even after I explained the difference, you people confuse being patted down when you go into a concert with allowing the cops to search you and your vehicle. Those are two separate and different things. Even at the door, if the ticket does not say you must allow the pat down, they can't do it. Yes they can deny you entrance and you can sue and ask to make it a class action. That can be very very expensive.

If you are going to stand up, do it and get a lawyer if and when you need one. If no one stands up for their rights, like some in this thread, then we have no rights. Rights are either exercised or lost, use it or lose it indeed.

If they said you had to lie down and get pissed on, someone would probably say you better do it or they won't let you in or will trash your car and give you a ticket.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832408 - 06/20/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you clearly dont know shit about festivals man

festivals are not a right, its a privelage



and if you sue the festival, well, :lolsy:


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21832437 - 06/20/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Even festivals have to follow the law. Enjoy your golden shower.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21832445 - 06/20/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
So we should all just lay down and take whatever shit the cops, private business and others want to dump on us? That's what I hear some people saying. In the past people had some backbone, they didn't trade wimpy stories about someone who got their car trashed because they stood up for their rights. If you lot were in charge back in 1776 we would still be a vassal state of England taking orders and being their bitch.

Even after I explained the difference, you people confuse being patted down when you go into a concert with allowing the cops to search you and your vehicle. Those are two separate and different things. Even at the door, if the ticket does not say you must allow the pat down, they can't do it. Yes they can deny you entrance and you can sue and ask to make it a class action. That can be very very expensive.

If you are going to stand up, do it and get a lawyer if and when you need one. If no one stands up for their rights, like some in this thread, then we have no rights. Rights are either exercised or lost, use it or lose it indeed.

If they said you had to lie down and get pissed on, someone would probably say you better do it or they won't let you in or will trash your car and give you a ticket.




I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.

I'm talking about real world scenarios here based on experience. Not some idealistic fantasy in which you tell the cops "I don't consent to a search" and they just go oh ok.. have a nice day then!

You can exercise your rights..but when it's a tyrannical cop seething with power.. that's not going to stop them from shit, in actual reality.
And if you are going to get a lawyer, you're going to be fighting a long ass court battle in most cases, sometimes taking years. You will end up spending more time and resources fighting it then it was worth in most cases.

We don't live in 1974, where most police are "just" and fair and just enforcing the laws, and cops are held accountable for their crimes and abuse of power. They do what the fuck they want, and get away with it most of the time.
See any number of youtube videos for examples. People asserting their rights and then the cop busts their window open and assaults them and arrests them. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they do what the fuck they want.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832451 - 06/20/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Even festivals have to follow the law. Enjoy your golden shower.





if by golden shower you mean the festival, then yes, ill enjoy that

you will realize you drove hours for nothing but to get arrested on false charges...lol how sad is that?



but lets be real here, this is obviously your "internet tough guy" act lol...irl life you wouldnt have the balls


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21832463 - 06/20/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
So we should all just lay down and take whatever shit the cops, private business and others want to dump on us? That's what I hear some people saying. In the past people had some backbone, they didn't trade wimpy stories about someone who got their car trashed because they stood up for their rights. If you lot were in charge back in 1776 we would still be a vassal state of England taking orders and being their bitch.

Even after I explained the difference, you people confuse being patted down when you go into a concert with allowing the cops to search you and your vehicle. Those are two separate and different things. Even at the door, if the ticket does not say you must allow the pat down, they can't do it. Yes they can deny you entrance and you can sue and ask to make it a class action. That can be very very expensive.

If you are going to stand up, do it and get a lawyer if and when you need one. If no one stands up for their rights, like some in this thread, then we have no rights. Rights are either exercised or lost, use it or lose it indeed.

If they said you had to lie down and get pissed on, someone would probably say you better do it or they won't let you in or will trash your car and give you a ticket.



Your fucking delusional buddie. I for one live in the real world where lawyer cost 100x your ticket price and if you had that kinda additude with police theyll just hit you in the face serch ur shit ne way and then lie n stick u wit 3 bullshit charges then you get to go to court :laugh:


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Shroomism]
    #21832492 - 06/20/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
So we should all just lay down and take whatever shit the cops, private business and others want to dump on us? That's what I hear some people saying. In the past people had some backbone, they didn't trade wimpy stories about someone who got their car trashed because they stood up for their rights. If you lot were in charge back in 1776 we would still be a vassal state of England taking orders and being their bitch.

Even after I explained the difference, you people confuse being patted down when you go into a concert with allowing the cops to search you and your vehicle. Those are two separate and different things. Even at the door, if the ticket does not say you must allow the pat down, they can't do it. Yes they can deny you entrance and you can sue and ask to make it a class action. That can be very very expensive.

If you are going to stand up, do it and get a lawyer if and when you need one. If no one stands up for their rights, like some in this thread, then we have no rights. Rights are either exercised or lost, use it or lose it indeed.

If they said you had to lie down and get pissed on, someone would probably say you better do it or they won't let you in or will trash your car and give you a ticket.




I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.

I'm talking about real world scenarios here based on experience. Not some idealistic fantasy in which you tell the cops "I don't consent to a search" and they just go oh ok.. have a nice day then!

You can exercise your rights..but when it's a tyrannical cop seething with power.. that's not going to stop them from shit, in actual reality.
And if you are going to get a lawyer, you're going to be fighting a long ass court battle in most cases, sometimes taking years. You will end up spending more time and resources fighting it then it was worth in most cases.

We don't live in 1974, where most police are "just" and fair and just enforcing the laws, and cops are held accountable for their crimes and abuse of power. They do what the fuck they want, and get away with it most of the time.
See any number of youtube videos for examples. People asserting their rights and then the cop busts their window open and assaults them and arrests them. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they do what the fuck they want.




Its that attitude that makes them think they can get away with anything. No one has the guts to speak up or question them. People have done it, they have spent a long ass time in court, not only got the false charges dropped, but won settlements of substantial amounts of cash. Yes its a hassle but if no one ever stands up, they will keep pulling more and more shit.

>you will realize you drove hours for nothing but to get arrested on false charges...lol how sad is that?

Just keep taking whatever illegal shit they put on you then.

>if by golden shower you mean the festival, then yes, ill enjoy that

It may be a real golden shower and you will have to accept it.

>irl life you wouldnt have the balls

This coming from the guy who says let them do anything they want to you no matter if its illegal. The only reason you have rights at all is because someone fought for them. You are happy to let them slip away rather than dare speak up and see what they do.

Chief mugawug
>I for one live in the real world where lawyer cost 100x your ticket price and if you had that kinda additude with police theyll just hit you in the face serch ur shit ne way and then lie n stick u wit 3 bullshit charges then you get to go to court

Then lay down and take what ever they want to do to you. Thank goodness a few in this country still have a bit of courage. That is the only thing that slows down bad cops, the fact it might be one of those nuts who stands up for his rights and follows through. Cops get fired every day for doing illegal shit but not if their victims are wimps.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832506 - 06/20/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 





no porkchop, pris isnt wrong about that, cops are hired as private security at
many events especially when there's a large number of attendees and as I have
already said, you can refuse the search and they can refuse you entry, maybe if
you actually read what I had posted as opposed to claiming you know your rights
then you'd have instead demonstrated you dont know your rights any better than
the average dumbass and in the instance when a cop in uniform is asking to
search you, it's up to you to determine whether they are on duty police
officers or if they were hired by the venue as security. neither has a right
to search you and you can refuse with either



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I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.






wow, really? they can just drag you out of the car and shoot you on the spot?


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Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.




how the fuck do you intend to prove you're one of the smart ones when you makes
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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Shroomism]
    #21832519 - 06/20/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.







that's not how any of this works

cops dont gain probable cause based on a denial of search, private security
guards have no need for probable cause. yes cops will try to intimidate you
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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832527 - 06/20/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
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Shroomism said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
So we should all just lay down and take whatever shit the cops, private business and others want to dump on us? That's what I hear some people saying. In the past people had some backbone, they didn't trade wimpy stories about someone who got their car trashed because they stood up for their rights. If you lot were in charge back in 1776 we would still be a vassal state of England taking orders and being their bitch.

Even after I explained the difference, you people confuse being patted down when you go into a concert with allowing the cops to search you and your vehicle. Those are two separate and different things. Even at the door, if the ticket does not say you must allow the pat down, they can't do it. Yes they can deny you entrance and you can sue and ask to make it a class action. That can be very very expensive.

If you are going to stand up, do it and get a lawyer if and when you need one. If no one stands up for their rights, like some in this thread, then we have no rights. Rights are either exercised or lost, use it or lose it indeed.

If they said you had to lie down and get pissed on, someone would probably say you better do it or they won't let you in or will trash your car and give you a ticket.




I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.

I'm talking about real world scenarios here based on experience. Not some idealistic fantasy in which you tell the cops "I don't consent to a search" and they just go oh ok.. have a nice day then!

You can exercise your rights..but when it's a tyrannical cop seething with power.. that's not going to stop them from shit, in actual reality.
And if you are going to get a lawyer, you're going to be fighting a long ass court battle in most cases, sometimes taking years. You will end up spending more time and resources fighting it then it was worth in most cases.

We don't live in 1974, where most police are "just" and fair and just enforcing the laws, and cops are held accountable for their crimes and abuse of power. They do what the fuck they want, and get away with it most of the time.
See any number of youtube videos for examples. People asserting their rights and then the cop busts their window open and assaults them and arrests them. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they do what the fuck they want.




Its that attitude that makes them think they can get away with anything. No one has the guts to speak up or question them. People have done it, they have spent a long ass time in court, not only got the false charges dropped, but won settlements of substantial amounts of cash. Yes its a hassle but if no one ever stands up, they will keep pulling more and more shit.

>you will realize you drove hours for nothing but to get arrested on false charges...lol how sad is that?

Just keep taking whatever illegal shit they put on you then.

>if by golden shower you mean the festival, then yes, ill enjoy that

It may be a real golden shower and you will have to accept it.

>irl life you wouldnt have the balls

This coming from the guy who says let them do anything they want to you no matter if its illegal. The only reason you have rights at all is because someone fought for them. You are happy to let them slip away rather than dare speak up and see what they do.

Chief mugawug
>I for one live in the real world where lawyer cost 100x your ticket price and if you had that kinda additude with police theyll just hit you in the face serch ur shit ne way and then lie n stick u wit 3 bullshit charges then you get to go to court

Then lay down and take what ever they want to do to you. Thank goodness a few in this country still have a bit of courage. That is the only thing that slows down bad cops, the fact it might be one of those nuts who stands up for his rights and follows through. Cops get fired every day for doing illegal shit but not if their victims are wimps.






lol you are a joke


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    #21832546 - 06/20/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good thing you are a mod so you can call people names with no consequence.

>you can refuse the search and they can refuse you entry

If it states somewhere on the ticket, etc that you must submit to a search then they have that right. Buying a ticket is a contract and if they don't honor their end, they are in violation and can be sued. They can't simply make up stuff after you get to the door.

>neither has a right to search you and you can refuse with either

Finally something correct.

>wow, really? they can just drag you out of the car and shoot you on the spot?

That is pretty pathetic. If you worry about that then stay under the bed all day. Bullies get bolder and more abusive the more their victims don't fight back and just lay down and take it. Some even encourage other victims not to fight back. We are a nation of laws, not a nation of cops making up the laws as they go along and doing whatever they please.

Every year cities, police departments, and private businesses are forced to pay big bucks for violating peoples rights. Cops get fired and even jailed for less than what you tell us they will do if you have the nerve to speak up. Obviously you never speak up. Except here of course.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832554 - 06/20/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Good thing you are a mod so you can call people names with no consequence.

>you can refuse the search and they can refuse you entry

If it states somewhere on the ticket, etc that you must submit to a search then they have that right. Buying a ticket is a contract and if they don't honor their end, they are in violation and can be sued. They can't simply make up stuff after you get to the door.

>neither has a right to search you and you can refuse with either

Finally something correct.

>wow, really? they can just drag you out of the car and shoot you on the spot?

That is pretty pathetic. If you worry about that then stay under the bed all day. Bullies get bolder and more abusive the more their victims don't fight back and just lay down and take it. Some even encourage other victims not to fight back. We are a nation of laws, not a nation of cops making up the laws as they go along and doing whatever they please.

Every year cities, police departments, and private businesses are forced to pay big bucks for violating peoples rights. Cops get fired and even jailed for less than what you tell us they will do if you have the nerve to speak up. Obviously you never speak up. Except here of course.





you have no idea what youre talking about

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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21832580 - 06/20/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Stonehenge said:
I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.






if you say no you dont go to the festival lol

get real dude...the shit you just said is laughable





then you just come back an hour later :shrug:


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    #21832603 - 06/20/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.







that's not how any of this works

cops dont gain probable cause based on a denial of search, private security
guards have no need for probable cause. yes cops will try to intimidate you
but none of that is new to anyone




No, they don't gain probably cause based on denial of search. But that doesn't stop them from calling the dog and triggering a false alert to give them probable cause.


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    #21832616 - 06/20/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Bassfreak said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
I would not let the cops search even if I had nothing on me. I will say no and let them try to lie their way out of it. Too many people are wimps and just cave in, stand up for your rights.

I've been searched going into a concert before but it was a private employee, a girl luckily and I didn't mind. Cops are a different animal and the concert can not give them permission to search you, pris and others are wrong about that. No one has said the concert people make you let the cops search before you can get in, someone made that up. It was cops by the side of the road bullying people on their way. 

I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.

Its a much bigger hassle for them than for you, anyone who calmly stands up for their rights gets a grudging bit of respect from the pigs and normally goes right on in with no search. Know your rights, proclaim them and do not back down.






if you say no you dont go to the festival lol

get real dude...the shit you just said is laughable





then you just come back an hour later :shrug:





you seriously think theyll let you keep your tickets? lol

if someone pulled that, they would be arrested on false charges and everyone knows it



also at bonnaroo if you go to the back of the line you just lost hours of your life, but theyd take your ticket anyways


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832639 - 06/20/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Good thing you are a mod so you can call people names with no consequence.




what name did I call you?

Quote:

>you can refuse the search and they can refuse you entry

If it states somewhere on the ticket, etc that you must submit to a search then they have that right. Buying a ticket is a contract and if they don't honor their end, they are in violation and can be sued. They can't simply make up stuff after you get to the door.





this is completely false, it doesnt have to state it on the ticket, it can be
inconspicuously at the venue, it can be on their website, it can be at the
ticket seller, it can be posted anywhere and just because it say is, it doesnt
mean you have to submit to a search, you can refuse that search by the venue
and as such you can also be refuse entry.

now, is that ticket a contract or is it merely a receipt that allows you
admission, seems you have more to read because contract law is a little more in
depth than you seem to believe

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>neither has a right to search you and you can refuse with either

Finally something correct.





once more, read my original post because both posts I have made in this thread said the same thing but under your earlier claim

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>wow, really? they can just drag you out of the car and shoot you on the spot?

That is pretty pathetic. If you worry about that then stay under the bed all day. Bullies get bolder and more abusive the more their victims don't fight back and just lay down and take it. Some even encourage other victims not to fight back. We are a nation of laws, not a nation of cops making up the laws as they go along and doing whatever they please.





you're the one claiming that cops can just shoot you and make some shit up to
justify it. why would you spread such erroneous information and then push it
off as someone being fearful unless you were trying to be a fear monger... oh
yeah, because you dont know anything about what you're talking about


let's refresh everyone's memory


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I will just say no, go ahead and get your warrant, if they threaten to trash the car thoroughly, which is their usual extortion tactic, I say I will put in a claim with the local judiciary for damages with photos taken. I realize they can simply shoot you and make up a story but with witnesses all around and no excuses, they would have to be insane to do anything like that. They can arrest you on false charges and you can sue them.




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Every year cities, police departments, and private businesses are forced to pay big bucks for violating peoples rights. Cops get fired and even jailed for less than what you tell us they will do if you have the nerve to speak up. Obviously you never speak up. Except here of course.






2 questions

1. what businesses have violated a person's rights and what were the rights violated

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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Shroomism]
    #21832658 - 06/20/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.







that's not how any of this works

cops dont gain probable cause based on a denial of search, private security
guards have no need for probable cause. yes cops will try to intimidate you
but none of that is new to anyone




No, they don't gain probably cause based on denial of search. But that doesn't stop them from calling the dog and triggering a false alert to give them probable cause.







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    #21832755 - 06/20/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

>what name did I call you?

porkchop

>this is completely false, it doesnt have to state it on the ticket, it can be
inconspicuously at the venue, it can be on their website, it can be at the
ticket seller, it can be posted anywhere

It must be stated at point of sale to be valid.

>now, is that ticket a contract or is it merely a receipt that allows you
admission, seems you have more to read because contract law is a little more in
depth than you seem to believe

More in depth than either of us know. However, selling a ticket to an event is indeed a contract and the seller must honor their end. If they do not provide the event that is violation of the agreement and possibly fraud. You can sue not just for the cost of the ticket but also for actual and punitive damages. You can ask for the suit to be declared class action on behalf of all those who were or may have been denied their rights in a similar way. Lawyers love class action suits because the lawyer fees are huge and are paid by the defendant when they lose.

Now if they do state that bit somewhere on the ticket or where you buy it, then yes that is different. Then its part of the contract you agreed to. That may be the case here. I was talking mostly about cops forcing a search on people.

>you're the one claiming that cops can just shoot you and make some shit up to
justify it

Actually, my statement was that they or anyone can do anything they please even if illegal but there will be consequences and it would be insane for a cop to do that. Even more so with witnesses. I did not mean to imply you said that, my bad.

>1. what businesses have violated a person's rights and what were the rights violated

Many many cases, also cops. You want the details of every case, lol?

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter2-3.html

A significant number of small claims cases involve breach of contract cases. A contract is any agreement between individuals or businesses in which one side agrees to do something for the other in exchange for something in return. For example, A asks B to paint his kitchen for $3,000 and B agrees. The agreement can be written or oral (in most situations), or implied from the circumstances. These cases end up in small claims court when one of the parties to the contract fails to perform in accordance with the terms of the agreement.

In order to win a breach of contract case, you will need to establish that:
β€’a contract existed
β€’the contract was broken
β€’the defendant is the proper party to sue, and
β€’you suffered a monetary loss.
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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21832758 - 06/20/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dude talk about word vomit

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    #21832767 - 06/20/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Porkchop:laugh2:


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21832771 - 06/20/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

its crazy how theres people who would sue somebody for anything

sueing a festival for you not wanting to follow the rules is ridiculous. you wont win anything brodude


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21833998 - 06/20/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah the search isn't actually on the highway though. When you actually pull off the highway and enter onto Bonnaroo grounds there are cops waiting inside waiting to choose cars out of the line for the random search. You must comply or I guarantee you are not going to get in. Trust me I know Roo is nothing like it used to be. I'd say conservatively that at least one out of every 10 - 15 cars gets completely searched. You add that up overall that's a lot of searched vehicles. It's all a great money making racket for Coffee County on top of whatever revenue they already receive from the festival. I went because literally all my friends were like 15 of us and some really good bands I wanted to see were going. My Morning Jacket stole the show. Plus Roo is super close to where I live so I had incentives to go.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21834243 - 06/20/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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its crazy how theres people who would sue somebody for anything

sueing a festival for you not wanting to follow the rules is ridiculous. you wont win anything brodude




I assume it says you are subject to this search before you purchase the ticket? Otherwise, those aren't rules.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: koods]
    #21834620 - 06/20/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All I'm sure of is I wanna be B and get paid 3 grand to paint a kitchen. :shrug:


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21834684 - 06/20/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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I don't think you get the point.
Even if you assert your rights... they don't give a single fuck and in most cases that gives them even more suspicion to fuck with you.







that's not how any of this works

cops dont gain probable cause based on a denial of search, private security
guards have no need for probable cause. yes cops will try to intimidate you
but none of that is new to anyone




No, they don't gain probably cause based on denial of search. But that doesn't stop them from calling the dog and triggering a false alert to give them probable cause.











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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21834686 - 06/20/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
>what name did I call you?

porkchop

>this is completely false, it doesnt have to state it on the ticket, it can be
inconspicuously at the venue, it can be on their website, it can be at the
ticket seller, it can be posted anywhere

It must be stated at point of sale to be valid.

>now, is that ticket a contract or is it merely a receipt that allows you
admission, seems you have more to read because contract law is a little more in
depth than you seem to believe

More in depth than either of us know. However, selling a ticket to an event is indeed a contract and the seller must honor their end. If they do not provide the event that is violation of the agreement and possibly fraud. You can sue not just for the cost of the ticket but also for actual and punitive damages. You can ask for the suit to be declared class action on behalf of all those who were or may have been denied their rights in a similar way. Lawyers love class action suits because the lawyer fees are huge and are paid by the defendant when they lose.

Now if they do state that bit somewhere on the ticket or where you buy it, then yes that is different. Then its part of the contract you agreed to. That may be the case here. I was talking mostly about cops forcing a search on people.

>you're the one claiming that cops can just shoot you and make some shit up to
justify it

Actually, my statement was that they or anyone can do anything they please even if illegal but there will be consequences and it would be insane for a cop to do that. Even more so with witnesses. I did not mean to imply you said that, my bad.

>1. what businesses have violated a person's rights and what were the rights violated

Many many cases, also cops. You want the details of every case, lol?

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter2-3.html

A significant number of small claims cases involve breach of contract cases. A contract is any agreement between individuals or businesses in which one side agrees to do something for the other in exchange for something in return. For example, A asks B to paint his kitchen for $3,000 and B agrees. The agreement can be written or oral (in most situations), or implied from the circumstances. These cases end up in small claims court when one of the parties to the contract fails to perform in accordance with the terms of the agreement.

In order to win a breach of contract case, you will need to establish that:
β€’a contract existed
β€’the contract was broken
β€’the defendant is the proper party to sue, and
β€’you suffered a monetary loss.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This does not even go into civil rights violations like when a cop exceeds his authority, inflicts harm under color of law, falsely arrests and so on.





I'm not sure if you're aware of this but attending a concert, getting your
kitchen painted and handjobs from hookers are not rights, violating a contract
is not a violation of your rights


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    #21836465 - 06/21/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

>I'm not sure if you're aware of this but attending a concert, getting your
kitchen painted and handjobs from hookers are not rights

Never said they were, you are confused again.

>violating a contract
is not a violation of your rights

Its a violation of the contract and your right to get what you pay for. If you mean its not a violation of federal rights or constitutional rights, that may be but it is illegal and you can sue for it. It becomes a criminal matter many times.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21836496 - 06/21/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Gotta find private festivals. In Alaska we had trapper creek blue grass. The guy that owns the property his name is boot. It's a huge circle that everyone camps around. Stage in the center of it all. No mainline artists but there is good music. Probably better imo.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21836508 - 06/21/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And no fucking cops. At all. I've literally watched him tell a cop to fuck off. This is my property leave.


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21836661 - 06/21/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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And no fucking cops. At all. I've literally watched him tell a cop to fuck off. This is my property leave.





this is why camp bisco was so sick for so many years. large scale festival, private property, no cops, none

shit got wild


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21837000 - 06/21/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yep love it.

At this festie they have in girdwood alaska. Chill ass town except for this night. At the base of mount alyeska my main bitch. They were filming that show Alaska State Troopers. I turned every time I saw them as I was rolling and took a half 8th of shrooms. I watched them literally yank anybody driving. I watched so many people get duis and arrested it was ridiculous.

But they never fucked with us under the bridge. Right on the river tons of fire dancing, hula hooping, music constantly. It was chaos. The rocks are set like stadium seating it was something I'll never forget. That's the last thing I did before I left my home Alaska. There were easily 200 people easily


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21837011 - 06/21/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

In the end a festival is all about freedom. No worries no cares. Fuck man I work hard it's that little bit of time where I get to unload all that shit and just be myself. If there are cops there I don't want to be there. Whats the point?


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    #21837098 - 06/21/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I went in '13.. Really wasn't that fun in terms of it being advertised as a 'music festival'. I'd say it's a 'drug festival'. In my opinion the majority of the people there are doing business. I'm sure some of the employees are in on it too, honestly. I remember walking up to the front entrance and I had a little bud on me. The roo employees were like. "ok set your bags down". They looked at them for three seconds and said "alright you're good"

I'm sure the police are becoming more involved because its a god damn money pit. I remember most people weren't even going to the concerts they were just walking around the camps doing business. At the right time of night you can easily spot gang activity


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Re: Vehicle search at Bonnaroo 2015 [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21837349 - 06/21/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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>I'm not sure if you're aware of this but attending a concert, getting your
kitchen painted and handjobs from hookers are not rights

Never said they were, you are confused again.

>violating a contract
is not a violation of your rights

Its a violation of the contract and your right to get what you pay for. If you mean its not a violation of federal rights or constitutional rights, that may be but it is illegal and you can sue for it. It becomes a criminal matter many times.





so how do you get what you pay for if a contractor accepts the money to paint
you kitchen and then disappears with your cash


you clearly do not understand what a right is because you're referring to a
right to get what you pay for... for a second time.maybe a 4th, I lost track


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    #21837414 - 06/21/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I went in '13.. Really wasn't that fun in terms of it being advertised as a 'music festival'. I'd say it's a 'drug festival'. In my opinion the majority of the people there are doing business. I'm sure some of the employees are in on it too, honestly. I remember walking up to the front entrance and I had a little bud on me. The roo employees were like. "ok set your bags down". They looked at them for three seconds and said "alright you're good"

I'm sure the police are becoming more involved because its a god damn money pit. I remember most people weren't even going to the concerts they were just walking around the camps doing business. At the right time of night you can easily spot gang activity





well theres def some sort of organization going on at any large scale music festival...people dont camp out for 3 days with tons of music without drugs lol, it just doesnt happen...someones gotta sell drugs

ive seen a team of people leave a festival with filthy amounts of cash and they prob went to less than 3 sets that weekend...when i was talking to em, they said all of them had warrants out for their arrest for skipping court dates, but they make so much money on festival season that as long as they stay outta jail, they make all the money they gotta for the whole year


obvy security was looking for weapons, some security cares, some dont give a fuck, but they all care about weapons


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