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OfflineMajickMuffin
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15 qt Minitub Fanning Question
    #21829841 - 06/19/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok guys, simple question here.

I have a 15qt Tub, drilled 4, 1.5in holes, 2 on each side (long sides of a rectangle).
Covered holes on inside and outside with Micropore tape.

Filled the Tub with 2 tin foil trays full of substrate (popcorn grain/coco coir). Misted the susbtrate and the inside sides of the tub for humidity.

QUESTION: IS FANNING REQUIRED?
(I have a fair amount of tiny black flies in my room, I DO NOT want to be fanning all the time and let them fuckers in, they spread contamination.)

Since the tub has airflow, fanning shouldnt be required right? I plan to just mist.

(I searched for this info and got mixed results and lack of info, please share your experience and input, THANKS GUYS!)


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21829855 - 06/19/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You're definitely going to want holes on the tops of the short sides, but 1.5" seems a little excessive for that size of tub.  Of course, that depends entirely on the humidity where you are.  :grin:


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21829887 - 06/19/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
You're definitely going to want holes on the tops of the short sides, but 1.5" seems a little excessive for that size of tub.  Of course, that depends entirely on the humidity where you are.  :grin:




I figured it will equal out, I will see how this does for the substrate and I can make an adjustments later after I learn how this goes.

My humidity in my room is probably 50-70% but im not sure, enough to air dry some cubies to crackers.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21829901 - 06/19/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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MajickMuffin said:
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van der griegen said:
You're definitely going to want holes on the tops of the short sides, but 1.5" seems a little excessive for that size of tub.  Of course, that depends entirely on the humidity where you are.  :grin:




I figured it will equal out, I will see how this does for the substrate and I can make an adjustments later after I learn how this goes.

My humidity in my room is probably 50-70% but im not sure, enough to air dry some cubies to crackers.




Nah, you want the top holes.  The two levels create convection currents which bring the FAE through the lower holes.  I'm not telling you what to do--be your own man, by all means.  But watch for your pins leaning toward the holes, as that'll be your first sign you need more FAE.

What method are you using to dry them?


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21829989 - 06/19/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Quote:

van der griegen said:
You're definitely going to want holes on the tops of the short sides, but 1.5" seems a little excessive for that size of tub.  Of course, that depends entirely on the humidity where you are.  :grin:




I figured it will equal out, I will see how this does for the substrate and I can make an adjustments later after I learn how this goes.

My humidity in my room is probably 50-70% but im not sure, enough to air dry some cubies to crackers.




Nah, you want the top holes.  The two levels create convection currents which bring the FAE through the lower holes.  I'm not telling you what to do--be your own man, by all means.  But watch for your pins leaning toward the holes, as that'll be your first sign you need more FAE.

What method are you using to dry them?




Thanks for the info, I will add the holes as soon as this substrate depletes (its too late now, sub already in there).

I just put them in an open cardboard box on my shelf, they get dry as a cracker in a few days.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21829997 - 06/19/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's a long time, and anyway it probably has more to do with the box than the humidity.  Why no fan or dehydrator?


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21830004 - 06/19/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well I only had to dry small amounts at a time so far, 10 dry grams-ish. But Obviously I will have to use a dehydrator when this tub flushes.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21830009 - 06/19/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:  IMO, a dehydrator is the biggest single thing you can get to increase potency.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21830020 - 06/19/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
:thumbup:  IMO, a dehydrator is the biggest single thing you can get to increase potency.



To increase potency? How does that happen?


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21830036 - 06/19/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, that was incredibly misleading.  What I meant to say is that it's the single most useful tool to create potent mushrooms, as most of the other methods of drying (desiccant, cool air and so on) have huge potency losses.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21830040 - 06/19/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Potency losses? How is potency lost due to any form of drying?


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21830064 - 06/19/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The longer it takes to get it dry, the more you have oxygen travelling to the inside to ruin your psilocybin and the more you have psilocybin travelling to the outside to be ruined.  That's why mushrooms turn blue when they dry over a longer period.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21830076 - 06/19/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info.
:smile:

But, still waiting on someone to tell me if fanning is necissary


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21830090 - 06/19/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fanning might or might not be necessary.  The purpose of fanning is to replace the air with less humid air, which creates evaporation off the surface of the substrate.  If your design works fine and I'm wrong, you'll have enough air travelling through that you'll have plenty of evaporation and fanning will be unnecessary.  If I'm right, it won't be enough and you'll need to either fan or give it a new hole or two.


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Re: 15 qt Minitub Fanning Question [Re: Psilicon]
    #21831590 - 06/20/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
Fanning might or might not be necessary.  The purpose of fanning is to replace the air with less humid air, which creates evaporation off the surface of the substrate.  If your design works fine and I'm wrong, you'll have enough air travelling through that you'll have plenty of evaporation and fanning will be unnecessary.  If I'm right, it won't be enough and you'll need to either fan or give it a new hole or two.




That answers my question. Thanks alot man!


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