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satch1234
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21833720 - 06/20/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thick-Lights tek has always worked better than the salt tek for me. Working with pure liquids and no bark in the mix is so much easier, makes for fast seperation of layers too. You can saturate your solvent within 5 minutes and crystals will crash out at room temp..
I now do one pull with dichloromethane, evaporate and re x in hexane. Best way, try it.
Edited by satch1234 (06/20/15 08:00 PM)
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: satch1234]
#21834571 - 06/20/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im going to try this on my next run what you do is add isopropyl alcohol to the root bark powder then let it dry its supposed to bring the DMT out of the bark as much as a acid to base would. Also freezing the bark then thawing it a few times before the run can help.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21835454 - 06/21/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said: Also freezing the bark then thawing it a few times before the run can help.
^^^This. Helps tremendously. That's trick #1. There are numerous others.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
#21835480 - 06/21/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sbc1 said: I'm not gonna get into an argument with someone who knows everything I'll just stick to pulling 4 grams per 100 grams of bark,
LOL. Just as I suspected. 2 grams DMT plus 2 grams of adulterants. Yeah, your a GREAT chemist. Magically making DMT appear in an amount greater than that contained in your starting material. Your statement is proof positive that your product is contaminated.
The fact that you self-administer the resultant product is tragic. On those occasions where you give, share or sell your tainted garbage to someone else, you are blatantly immoral. I don't care what legitimate method you employ to arrive at your final product. What I DO care very much about is that you learn (from whatever reliable source) the actual chemistry involved so your end product is suitable for human consumption. Clearly, you are making mistakes...and what's worse, you refuse to entertain advice that would provide you with a far cleaner end product.
You are just the kind of person who does not deserve help. Go smoke your poison...just don't give it to anyone else. Oh, and have a nice day.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21835643 - 06/21/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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thewanderer25 said: Also freezing the bark then thawing it a few times before the run can help.
^^^This. Helps tremendously. That's trick #1. There are numerous others.
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I was gonna try this next. So I just add the water and vinegar solution and just freeze/thaw for a week?
What other of these tricks should help? I'm about to try another 50g of acrb.
This is the only dmt I've tried besides a friends he got at a fest.. his was a crazy journey.. this stuff I extracted not so much.. not even as close to a journey. DissapointMenT. Followed the tek to a T. Maybe it's the bark?
My first pulls were white crystals. I have yellow in the freezer now with weird white cone structures. Is goo ever clear?
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21835660 - 06/21/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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sbc1 said: I'm not gonna get into an argument with someone who knows everything I'll just stick to pulling 4 grams per 100 grams of bark,
LOL. Just as I suspected. 2 grams DMT plus 2 grams of adulterants. Yeah, your a GREAT chemist. Magically making DMT appear in an amount greater than that contained in your starting material. Your statement is proof positive that your product is contaminated.
The fact that you self-administer the resultant product is tragic. On those occasions where you give, share or sell your tainted garbage to someone else, you are blatantly immoral. I don't care what legitimate method you employ to arrive at your final product. What I DO care very much about is that you learn (from whatever reliable source) the actual chemistry involved so your end product is suitable for human consumption. Clearly, you are making mistakes...and what's worse, you refuse to entertain advice that would provide you with a far cleaner end product.
You are just the kind of person who does not deserve help. Go smoke your poison...just don't give it to anyone else. Oh, and have a nice day.
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You obviously don't no what your talking about name me 2 grams of adulterants that I pull if by that you mean yellow/orange, jimjam, then that is all dmt plus other alkaloids, fats, oils ect, when did I say I was a chemist, I pull clean white dmt all the time and I don't need special glassware and other shit your talking about and that no one's bothered about because all they want is dmt and they can do that without any of the crap your talking about, so stop spreading miss info about what you need and who's right and wrong because at the end of the day it does the same job wheather it's white, yellow, orange and red
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
#21835662 - 06/21/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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storm eagle said:
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thewanderer25 said: Also freezing the bark then thawing it a few times before the run can help.
^^^This. Helps tremendously. That's trick #1. There are numerous others.
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I was gonna try this next. So I just add the water and vinegar solution and just freeze/thaw for a week?
What other of these tricks should help? I'm about to try another 50g of acrb.
This is the only dmt I've tried besides a friends he got at a fest.. his was a crazy journey.. this stuff I extracted not so much.. not even as close to a journey. DissapointMenT. Followed the tek to a T. Maybe it's the bark?
My first pulls were white crystals. I have yellow in the freezer now with weird white cone structures. Is goo ever clear?
Storm eagle just follow cybs and earthwalkers tek to a t and don't listen to any of these, if your pulling dmt white/yellow whatever then your doing it right
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
#21835695 - 06/21/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What about the potency issue? It's weak sauce. Do I just need to mini a/b or re x? Any opinions on that? I was gonna wait till my bark is spent to do one or the other, and to it all at once.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
#21835704 - 06/21/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Didn't understand the first bit of the question, collect all your pulls and do a mini a/b
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
#21835715 - 06/21/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry in a recent post I mentioned it.
The only other dmt I've tried was a friends he got at a festival. It was insane. One hit and I was off. This stuff I've pulled is not even comparable. Was wandering if the clean up stage would fix that.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
#21835760 - 06/21/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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To be honest it all depends on different factors, your technique in smoking or vapourising it, and the amount you actually smoke or vapourise so I wouldn't worry about it, aslong you don't pull any of the base and you make sure your product is dry and the naphtha has evaporated all should be fine, wheather its white, yellow, orange it dosent matter a lot of people don't bother cleaning it and prefer the different spectrum of alkaloids, but if you want white then just clean your product either with the mini a/b or re-x
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
#21836586 - 06/21/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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storm eagle said: I was gonna try this next. So I just add the water and vinegar solution and just freeze/thaw for a week?
Arrgh, NO!. Just put your bark in the freezer overnight. Remove until fully thawed. Repeat 2 additional times. Doing what you suggest may rupture the container, assuming it's glass (which it should be).
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
#21836602 - 06/21/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sbc1 said: You obviously don't no what your talking about name me 2 grams of adulterants that I pull if by that you mean yellow/orange, jimjam, then that is all dmt plus other alkaloids, fats, oils ect, when did I say I was a chemist, I pull clean white dmt all the time and I don't need special glassware and other shit your talking about and that no one's bothered about because all they want is dmt and they can do that without any of the crap your talking about, so stop spreading miss info about what you need and who's right and wrong because at the end of the day it does the same job wheather it's white, yellow, orange and red
Who said anything about any special glassware??? Show me where I said that.
Misinformation? I stand by every word. Dude, you lost every shred of credibility with that claim of 4% yield. No one believes a word you say now, fella.
"Wheather." LOL. It's "whether" sbc1. So, in addition to chemistry, you would probably benefit from a class in English as well.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21839254 - 06/21/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok here is what you need to do exactly if you do it right then you will waste very little DMT and it will be very pure. Step one. freeze bark then unfreeze bark (repeat this step 3 times)
step two. add some vinegar to a near boiling pot of water then add your bark after 45 minutes of almost boiling pour the water out into a bigger pot and repeat the vinegar/water boil on the bark 3 times. When all 3 boils are collected the DMT is now in the vinegar/water and not the bark so you can toss the bark. Evaporate the liquid with the stove till it fits in whatever jar you want to use.
Step three. So your DMT water is acidic you can add lye to it but I use a little salt to bring the PH to neutral then add my lye either way is fine. Just be careful you're adding too opposites to each other so take protections this stuff reacts violently if you do it wrong gloves and goggles is a must. I let it sit for 24 to 48 hours after the lye breaks it down before I do my pulls you want a PH of 10.5 or more.
Step four. I add my naphtha and measure it carefully listen to this FOR EVERY HUNDRED GRAMS OF BARK ADD 50ML of naphtha it gets supersaturated which is a very good thing. I basically turn my sink to as hot as it can get and plug it when its very hot and let my jar float in the water. every 5 minutes take it out and swirl the naphtha throughout the jar BUT DO NOT SHAKE it will get lost and takes hours to separate which means its absorbing the nasty fats I gently roll it around and place it back in the water. after 3 times of this do your pulls and place them in a jar. (repeat 3 times)
Step five. Place all the naptha/DMT you collected in the freezer for 24 hours when its nice and frozen pour all the naptha back into the jar I get one nasty pull from it (its optoinl but jungle spice is still DMT in my books) at the bottom of the frozen jars you will find highly pure DMT crystals.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
#21839324 - 06/21/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sbc1 said: wheather its white, yellow, orange it dosent matter a lot of people don't bother cleaning it and prefer the different spectrum of alkaloids
Thats not realy true unless your talking about changa. The oil is fats that take forever to burn so vaping it is a lot harder and dosing it is just as hard. However you can let your naphtha dry on some weed or tobacco and take a harmala and just puff the dry weed or tobacco like normal. Thats what im useing my jungle spice for and it lasts two hours instead of 10 minutes
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21841181 - 06/22/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dumb question.. how do ya dispose of this bark soup? Just down the drain? Just making sure.
I'm gonna try the freezing of the bark tonight.
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
#21841298 - 06/22/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk you can use it as compost I suppose it will not have been in contact with the lye yet but throwing it in the toilet or drain would make me mad. Its like throwing one of god's favorite plants into a sewer of shit litterlity. LMAO but do as you want with it it doesn't matter but if you whant some love from the DMT go to a garden and bury it next to the most betufal plants have a funaral for it play it
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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21841315 - 06/22/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But check this digram out its were I got that tek from I just dumbed it down so its easier
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