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Naphtha seperating almost instantly.
    #21829168 - 06/19/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This may be the wrong section for this topic.

Trying to extract dmt from acrb. Im in the final stage where I add the naphtha and wait for it to seperate 4 times. No matter how long I mix the jar it seems to seperate within a minute. Cybs tek said the first time could take a hour possibly.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829212 - 06/19/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The naptha that separates in the first 5 minutes is just the majority of it, say 90%
The other 10% that you can't see will take an hour (I give it 8), but it's deep in all the nooks and crannies absorbing the goodness
You won't be able to really see anything besides some clouding until you precipitate and evaporate (:
Its workin though


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: Weiliithinker]
    #21829246 - 06/19/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Uh, huh.. Wasn't really cloudy at all. Damn near clear when I pulled it. I'll do another pull in the morning after I see if I got anything from these... but the stuff was clear.. didn't like that mess. I'll wait longer tomorrow too.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829330 - 06/19/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Watch this:



When you say: "I add the naphtha and wait for it to seperate 4 times."
What exactly do you mean by this?


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: qweqaz]
    #21829389 - 06/19/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen that vid.

What I mean Is I added the naphtha, shook/stirred/figure 8 the jar then I let it seperate. Then I mixed it up again and waited, then again.. then again.. then i extracted. 45-60 min total. First time doing this, obviously.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829450 - 06/19/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A pull only takes 15 mins stirring a bit every 5 mins, decant. The naptha does its work in minutes, the base in the basified solution works over time (i.e. hours, days).


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #21829574 - 06/19/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So it sounds like I'm good or nah? I felt real good about all this until it didn't seem to go as cybs tek said even though I stuck to the tek. Stuff isn't even cloudy.

Any suggestions?


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829695 - 06/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have no idea. I would decant it and toss it in the freezer, wait 30 mins and see if it's cloudy.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: qweqaz]
    #21829730 - 06/19/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When i do it the extracted layer is not cloudy at all. The liquid has a darker tone to it only than it was before swirling/shaking it around with the other layer. Just place it in the freezer for 12+ hours and you will see crystals forming.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #21829740 - 06/19/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Been a while.. doesn't really look too cloudy. I'll check again in the morning and dry it and see. If not, I'll start up the heat bath and add fresh naphtha.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829790 - 06/19/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There is no need to dry it, all you do is freeze it then poor off the liquid and the crystals will stay in place if done right.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: qweqaz]
    #21829797 - 06/19/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thought ya pour it out then fan dry for 20 min or so.

I'm following cybs salt tek on the dmt nexus wiki page.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21829831 - 06/19/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah ok that type of drying.. to let the remaining liquid evaporate..gotcha. Yes that is key for a pure product (thought you wanted to skip the freezer and just dry it down)


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: qweqaz]
    #21830873 - 06/20/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It depends on how hot your base is wheather it seperates quickly or not,  aslong as you follow the tek and your barks not bunk you should be good, you won't notice any cloudiness until the naphtha cools down, and is saturated with enough of the dmt, it'll be there don't worry my pulls are always clear till it hits room temp, breath on the pyrex with your pulls in you'll see it


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21831233 - 06/20/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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storm eagle said:
This may be the wrong section for this topic.

Trying to extract dmt from acrb. Im in the final stage where I add the naphtha and wait for it to seperate 4 times. No matter how long I mix the jar it seems to seperate within a minute. Cybs tek said the first time could take a hour possibly.




What it COULD take and what it DOES take are two entirely different things.  Naphtha and basified water are not miscible, so they never really mix at all.  It's just that there's physical things inside the water (the bark powder or chips) that mechanically prevent it from floating to the top.

I don't know what instructions you are using, but one thing is for CERTAIN.  You can not pull the naphtha off the basified water so soon.  The DMT in solution is only 1 - 2% MAX.  In order for you to have a concentration within the naphtha sufficient to freeze precipitate DMT out of it takes damned near 24 hours.  Anyone who tells you otherwise is misleading you.  Have some patience.

Also, there is no need to do anything other than an occasional stir or modest swirl or agitation. The DMT will naturally migrate down it's concentration gradient into the naphtha without you doing a damned thing.  To mechanically mix with vigor is to risk an emulsion.

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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21831283 - 06/20/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It dosent take 24hrs the dmt will migrate straight away especially if you use salt to help it, you will pull alot more fats and oils if you leave it 24hrs, just follow cybs tek and you'll be good don't worry about what people say, with acrb do a mini a/b when you've collected all your pulls otherwise you'll end up with goo, follow earthwalkers tek for that here https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=58064


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
    #21831295 - 06/20/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also if I was you don't powder your bark or buy powdered bark as you'll probably get tiny particles migrating into the naphtha plus it's messier to work with get shredded bark and freeze and thaw it for a week before you want to extract it will lyce the cells and will be much easier to get the dmt out


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: sbc1]
    #21831375 - 06/20/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Niiice. Well much success. Thanks sbc1 for confirming that all needed was to be sure to follow cyb. Fan drying now. Taking longer than expected but I'm good with that. Big fluffy ones!


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21831377 - 06/20/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I had powdered acrb and followed the tek to a t. Just poured in fresh naphtha for anot her pull later on. Gonna re x when all is done all at once.


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Re: Naphtha seperating almost instantly. [Re: storm eagle]
    #21831471 - 06/20/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I had powdered acrb and followed the tek to a t. Just poured in fresh naphtha for anot her pull later on. Gonna re x when all is done all at once.



Instead of doing a re-x just do a mini a/b you won't lose anything and it's better in my opinion,  you'll just use a bit more naphtha


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