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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#21829280 - 06/19/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#21829285 - 06/19/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lovesquare said: Since my first dose of acid I always felt the need to share psychedelics with the world. It took me a few trips and a couple of years later to start growing. I had grow partner who was never on the same page, but I don't regret growing with him. Together we achieved seeing god, telepathy, becoming one with the universe, ego death and much more. It was an experience I wouldn't of traded for anything. We started with truffles in quart jars and ended with grow bags, buckets and monotubs. We could of never have gone through all those shrooms. I would regularly dose entire parties and bring gallons of shroom tea to festivals, always handing it out for free, the way its meant to be. We were always careful to stay "in code" and to discuss nothing with another person, but he made the mistake of introducing his girlfriend to the game. He ended up getting paranoid and trashed everything, our work, my "position", as I call it.
Since we parted ways, something has been lacking in my life. I've been on a 1 year break for 11 months now which has done me good. Most of the people in my life have moved on from the train but its hold on me is strong, even over the tripless months. I feel the time is now. A time to reconnect with like minded people and to continue my work. I know I'm not the only one out there, but it seems like it sometimes.
I'm looking at doing some Mex. A truffles and also fruiting this time around. If you're experienced and have the space, I have the knowledge, and I'm sure a beautiful friendship will blossom. Also chime in if you've felt this way. PM me if your in the Eight'o'four.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Dark_Star]
#21829291 - 06/19/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i never felt universal love on psyhcedelics either. diagnose me i dunno about universal love i think its hogwash.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: teamkiller]
#21829301 - 06/19/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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People's revelations on psychedelics seems to often be to just do more drugs.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Dark_Star]
#21829307 - 06/19/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: What happened was I fell into opiate/opioid & cocaine addiction, and lost myself/connection to others, love, etc. I'd dose & bounce back occasionally, go back to the work...but then I'd slip back again. After the last time I decided I needed to make a serious change. Along with that came a new path. I still believe in the old work, but I also feel that my time with it is done. I'm on a new path now.
Do you think you would ever come back? Couldn't a new path invoke old feelings, those shared with others, with yourself, to further the cause, regardless of the struggles you've since overcame? It seems to me that throughout your time you may have completed your work, and are "retired". Thanks for your input, brother.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21829309 - 06/19/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im not like that
i dont put people down if there ideals are different
whatsoever
i dont feel holier than thou at all i feel =
Yes there are holier than thou types
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21829319 - 06/19/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: People's revelations on psychedelics seems to often be to just do more drugs. 
 
Ironic.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21829342 - 06/19/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: People's revelations on psychedelics seems to often be to just do more drugs. 
Or they chase the revelations that only come with time regardless. I've found this to be true along my path.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#21829369 - 06/19/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lovesquare said:
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Bitter Cactus said: People's revelations on psychedelics seems to often be to just do more drugs. 
Or they chase the revelations that only come with time regardless. I've found this to be true along my path.
For a moment, let me play devil's advocate.
If an addict is doing drugs and claims they make him see God, take away his ego, give him revelations and make him love the universe how can anyone anyone argue with the person's use. They are rationalizing doing drugs because it makes them a better person and does all these great things. If you end up getting into MXE you could fall down the same line of thinking and despite all the bad things it can potentially do to you, you will only see that it does good.
It can be a perfect recipe for disaster for a lot of people to have this line of thinking and ultimately all the good things and life experience you gain comes from hard work and actually doing things, not taking drugs.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#21829372 - 06/19/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, I'm older now, and I love what I do. I'm still helping people, but in a different way. I feel that I'm making far more of a difference in people's lives now to be honest. I'm sure that I helped open many eyes in the past, have come across many people whose lives were enriched. But now it's different, higher stakes & more tangible. It's also a legal & reputable career. Besides, the things I'd like out of my life these days aren't all that comparable with my old lifestyle. When I was younger I truly felt that it was my life's work to spread the love, and that I was destined to do so. Now that I'm older & that's far in the past it seems more like it was a stepping stone; a necessary & positve phase of my growth as a human being. And likewise the negative aspects of my past were necessary for my growth. Where I'm at now is the next step, and I'm pretty excited about it. Wouldn't want to throw this car in reverse.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#21829393 - 06/19/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with using drugs in a way that doesnt ruin lifes of the people around you or your own

especially if there not in a bad habit of just getting high and doing nothing else Im always looking for new and better oppurtunitys that will help me and everything around me Mind and body But nothing in this life is perfect
Not everyone will feel the same thing always
Positivity is a wonderful thing i feel
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: SunnyD]
#21829419 - 06/19/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are mental masturbation in a lot of ways. I think you can have a good attitude in life without them just as well if not better then sitting around doing drugs.
Often times the thoughts and ideas you get on them lead you in the wrong direction. Thinking you had telepathic experiences and contacted God and have no ego are all great things, but wishful thinking and your judgement is impaired under the influence of the drug because you are technically hallucinating.
Psychedelics can be good, but can be deceptive. I think people here put way to much emphasis on psychedelics for personal growth instead of other life experiences.
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21829462 - 06/19/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see what your saying but not everyone is the same
everyone goes down there own path I dont know if there is a god who knows they may or not be one? but my knowledge is i wont ever know
As much as i enjoy discussing this matter with you at this particular moment We disagree
which is totally fine Doesnt bother me at all
i wish you the best in your mind and soul and i want you to do whtever makes you content and im glad we are conversing in this moment
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Dark_Star]
#21829496 - 06/19/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Nah, I'm older now, and I love what I do. I'm still helping people, but in a different way. I feel that I'm making far more of a difference in people's lives now to be honest. I'm sure that I helped open many eyes in the past, have come across many people whose lives were enriched. But now it's different, higher stakes & more tangible. It's also a legal & reputable career. Besides, the things I'd like out of my life these days aren't all that comparable with my old lifestyle. When I was younger I truly felt that it was my life's work to spread the love, and that I was destined to do so. Now that I'm older & that's far in the past it seems more like it was a stepping stone; a necessary & positve phase of my growth as a human being. And likewise the negative aspects of my past were necessary for my growth. Where I'm at now is the next step, and I'm pretty excited about it. Wouldn't want to throw this car in reverse.
Well said, I've always felt it was my destiny as well, nice to here from someone as yourself, i don't think it will be like this forever either, but for now my notions are the same. This is what I'm here for, and others I impact is the reason for living, for following this path, for continuing my work, even after taking such a long break, it keeps calling me back, and I want to contribute.
I wanted to share something with you dark_star, in my early days (not to think i'm old by any means) I felt an energy coming from the river. I gathered about 7 doses and headed to it. Come to imagine people being there and that they needed me. I arrive around 11 pm and find a group a friends sitting out by the tide and enjoying the night. I approach them with a simple greeting and they respond, we hang out for a few minutes and i drop the question. "You all want to do some shrooms, tonight?" All of them were on board and excited. Didn't charge anything, dosed accordingly. Come to found out one was addicted to cocaine and I was sent to alleviate her suffering.
Stayed for 2 or 3 hours riding the waves then I had to head to my next spot. They begged me not to go and I explained that I was here now and must move on, they understood. My calling was complete, and this is what compels me to keep riding this train. Maybe the tracks will run out someday, maybe not, we will see.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: SunnyD]
#21829518 - 06/19/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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AddyZomeD said: I see what your saying but not everyone is the same
everyone goes down there own path I dont know if there is a god who knows they may or not be one? but my knowledge is i wont ever know
As much as i enjoy discussing this matter with you at this particular moment We disagree
which is totally fine Doesnt bother me at all
i wish you the best in your mind and soul and i want you to do whtever makes you content and im glad we are conversing in this moment
Just be weary though, like I said psychedelics are deceptive in their ways.
You may believe that your ego is weakened by taking these drugs, but often they reinforce whatever thoughts and ideas you had before and paint them as the truth.
If you believe in God, psychedelics will confirm that God does indeed exist and you are communicating with him. If you believe in telepathy, psychedelics will tell you that you are having a telepathic experience. Psychedelics are a form of masturbation, but it is almost as if you are masturbating your thoughts. They make whatever beliefs and ideas you have seem to have so much more bearing and truth despite the fact you need to accept you know little to nothing at all, which is a good thing to admit.
I believe they can be good tools because they do create thoughts and ideas that can potentially allow you reflect on your life and what you need to do. For other things though, they seem to give a false sense of knowledge. You are better suited to gain knowledge about things by reading, learning things and being out in the world.
I am just throwing ideas out there I hope you hear some of what I am saying. I want to trip again but for me I don't take tripping seriously at all. Some of the ideas I had tripping seemed to be so significant and real when I was on the drug, but when I sobered up and actually tried to write them down these ideas were scattered and not nearly as amazing as I thought before. To someone who takes psychedelics at total face value you may end up believing everything you think while tripping.
I am happy they give you a good attitude about life but your focus should be on other things too live travelling, finding love, doing things you love to do and all that stuff.
If you end up getting into MXE OP I can easily see you having these same types of feelings. MXE will provide you everything an intellectual wants out of a drug and more, so there is no reason to stop doing and recreate those thoughts and experiences again. Proceed with caution because I could see you getting hooked on that type of experience with the snap of a finger.
If you think what I am saying is bullshit then feel free to tell me.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
Edited by Bitter Cactus (06/19/15 07:09 PM)
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21829579 - 06/19/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are making wonderful possible points very nice
Yes they can be like *mental masturbation* For some people it can feed there egos ( ive seen it with people who were like tha before) But ive seen it happen in the complete opposite way to other people
not everyone will have a negative reaction with there mind be it with drugs or bad sober or good life xps
But many things can be deceptive cause like you said No one knows everything there is too know biology isnt perfect
Some things are vastly more life-changing an mind changing than other things be it drugs mental abuse physical abuse shitty life situations amazing life situations
and a mix of what is listed above and so much more things im not even listing
Everyone and everything will always be unique some people will go to unknown levels of positivity, negativity, motivation, knowledge, physical boundrys etc mental boundrys
Its all about the mindstate an the path we choose to go down
etc etc
The possibilys of everything is almost endless
I think your bringing up great points in this subject
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare]
#22115458 - 08/20/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Go for it  I just read your post, with tears of joy running down my face. Keep spreading the Love.
   
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#22115465 - 08/20/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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One love One heart One sound
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: lovesquare] 1
#22115746 - 08/20/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DO IT! Let's all do it!
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Re: I feel my meaning of being is to spread the love. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22115764 - 08/20/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: DO IT! Let's all do it!
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