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So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story)
    #21827967 - 06/19/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I bought quite a lot of GBL earlier this year. I ended up using it a few times a week for the past 6 months. I am living at home for the summer as I am taking classes at the local community college. As I was separating GBL from the larger bottle and dripping into a more convenient vial, I accidnetally spilled some. I would say about 10-20ml. I left the 10-20ml puddle on my bathroom counter overnight because I simply forgot about it and didnt realize I had dropped so much. This morning I went to shower in my bathroom and noticed the places where the puddle was, there was a waxy substance in its place. I used a knife to scrape away at the substance only to realize that the GBL had dissolved the first layer of the marble counter in my bathroom. There are now two spots in the part of my bathroom counter the size and shape of puddles where the first layer of glossy marble are gone

It looks sketch and idk what to tell my rents if they ask. I personally never even knew GBL was that strong of a solvent. I may throw it away and be done completely after this


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21827973 - 06/19/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah i've had a few keyboards/mouses destroyed like that. It will eat through anything, hence you should dillute so much.

Warned you enough my friend!!!
Atleast convert it to GHB :P

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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21827978 - 06/19/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Water is a solvent. Alcohol is a solvent. GBL is a solvent.

You are bothered that a liquid dissolves something? Get over it.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21827986 - 06/19/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Water is a solvent. Alcohol is a solvent. GBL is a solvent.

You are bothered that a liquid dissolves something? Get over it.



If I left alcohol on a countertop overnight would it have the same effect?

It just seems that I wouldn't want this inside my body


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21827993 - 06/19/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Different substances dissolve different things. Your body isn't made of countertop sealant.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21827997 - 06/19/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Idid the same thing once but it was coke :lol: imagine what it dooes to ur insides:ooo:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828009 - 06/19/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Different substances dissolve different things. Your body isn't made of countertop sealant.



I guess when you put it like that it isnt' too sketch. Regardless, I was looking to convert it to GHB. I think that would be an overall better idea

I just never new it was that strong a solvent

Any excuses or explanations for this would be appreaciated. I really don't know what to say to my rents


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21828039 - 06/19/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Be careful with the NaOH you use to convert the GBL. That stuff will dissolve your flesh.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828058 - 06/19/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Idid the same thing once but it was coke :lol: imagine what it dooes to ur insides:ooo:



What do you mean? You used coke mixed with water?
I had no idea it was a solvent


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21828080 - 06/19/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you leave a coke out in air it like turns into a liquid or goop and can like eat plastic n stuff. idfk why. :shrug:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828087 - 06/19/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What? It turns unto a goop becasue it is loaded with invert sugar.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828089 - 06/19/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

put a bump of cocaine on the counter for like 3 days or summin it will like melt n then eat away at ur shit


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828090 - 06/19/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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if you leave a coke out in air it like turns into a liquid or goop and can like eat plastic n stuff. idfk why. :shrug:



Didnt know that. I never was rly into coke. interesting tho


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828116 - 06/19/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What? It turns unto a goop becasue it is loaded with invert sugar.



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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828121 - 06/19/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

theyre sayn its crazy hydroscopic or something


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828124 - 06/19/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Do you know what that means? It mean it absorbs water from the air.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828132 - 06/19/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeh jus read bout it n stuff


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828181 - 06/19/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hm, I had to look that up because I only knew of GHB(which I don't know all that much about because I've never done it). It's a prodrug to ghb..and I imagine continued use of it is probably pretty bad for your liver, I'm pretty clueless about the metabolic process(and really biology and pharmacology and all that stuff in general), but I'd think it'd be much rougher on your body.

Also just read that if it's undiluted it can cause some nasty esophageal irritation, which seems part for the course for something that essentially dissolved the first layer of a marble countertop....so..probably a wise choice haha.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: pirate-blues]
    #21828223 - 06/19/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well marble prob reacts to acid cuz its like a type of rock or something. Dont they usually polish that shit with some type of wax or summin tho? top coat of summin even?


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21828245 - 06/19/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think its just naturally polished and the gbl probably etched into it. You just need to figure out how to polish those small spots, shouldn't be that hard.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #21828248 - 06/19/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also most granite is expensive as fuck so I would look into trying to polish it first, or ask a granite counter top installer on what to do.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828325 - 06/19/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be careful with the NaOH you use to convert the GBL. That stuff will dissolve your flesh.




:lol: lol koods cmon man :lolsy:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #21828353 - 06/19/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Marble is porous and it is sealed with some kind of wax like substance.

GBL is non toxic besides depression of the nervous system.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828368 - 06/19/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If properly dilluted with loads of water!!!!!


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Beanhead]
    #21828386 - 06/19/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

GBL is somewhat acidic. Less acidic than vinegar. Probably about the same as orange juice. Pure GBL is irritating to mucous linings the same way ever clear is. GBL has zero systemic toxicity and does not stress the liver at all. I don't know where people get this info from. There are plenty of pubmed articles about it.

Oops. Lactones are neutral compounds. GHB is an acid


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828387 - 06/19/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

GHB(AKA GBL) endogenous hormone, I say ad infinitum

People dumb :shrug:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828390 - 06/19/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Marble is porous and it is sealed with some kind of wax like substance.

GBL is non toxic besides depression of the nervous system.



Lol im an idiot I dont know why I thought he was talking about granite.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Beanhead]
    #21828396 - 06/19/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be careful with the NaOH you use to convert the GBL. That stuff will dissolve your flesh.




:lol: lol koods cmon man :lolsy:




Seriously. I had a narrow mouthed flask that a mouse had crawled into and died. It wouldn't fit back out the hole, so I poured in some hydroxide solution and the next day it was completely dissolved.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21828435 - 06/19/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wow that musta been some crazy meth lab u were working in


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    #21828454 - 06/19/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Keep talking like that and I will have to dissolve you as well.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21831795 - 06/20/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So last week I had a bad cold and this week I have been recovering. Just a tad bit of congestion. the few nights I have been drinking GBL my throat really hurt. I figure that I better start diluting my GBL down. I think the GBL burned part of my throat that was muccoussy. I mix 0.5-1ml into half a cup of water and drink it. Then at about 3 am I do the same. I wakeup at about 8 am and sleep about 11-12ish. I figure two doses not diluted enough and taken consistently every other day has basically fucked up my throat a bit

Im stupid for nt realizing this bbefore. I had a wierd pain in my throat starting a couple days ago. I guess I may even take a GBL break for a week and see if thats the issue


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21831814 - 06/20/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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GBL is somewhat acidic. Less acidic than vinegar. Probably about the same as orange juice. Pure GBL is irritating to mucous linings the same way ever clear is. GBL has zero systemic toxicity and does not stress the liver at all. I don't know where people get this info from. There are plenty of pubmed articles about it.

Oops. Lactones are neutral compounds. GHB is an acid



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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21831837 - 06/20/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it's actually a marble counter, the GBL dissolved the sealant.  If your parents ask, you spilled acetone while cleaning up some superglue and forgot about it (you may have to go buy some nail polish remover and superglue to get away with that lie).  Be careful with your drugs and other chemicals.

Solvent doesn't mean more dangerous.  Dimethyl sulfoxide is an industrial solvent and a byproduct of paper production.  You can drink it (I do not recommend for it tastes like a mash of garlic and rotting leaves) and it will not harm you.  It is also used to preserve organs prior to transplant.  If the drug is telling you it's time to quit, it's time to quit, otherwise, don't let a little solvent accident scare you.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21831857 - 06/20/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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if you leave a coke out in air it like turns into a liquid or goop and can like eat plastic n stuff. idfk why. :shrug:



I have consistently left my coke out on my coffee table sitting on a plate for weeks at a time. Id buy 2 or 3 balls and crush it all on the plate, then leave it there open to the air for basically nightly use. Never ever once ever in never did I ever see any of my coke get liquidy or goopy or anything of the sort. LOL

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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21831877 - 06/20/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Water is a solvent. Alcohol is a solvent. GBL is a solvent.




Oxidane is an industrial solvent, it's used in cooling nuclear reactors and the
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    #21831898 - 06/20/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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if you leave a coke out in air it like turns into a liquid or goop and can like eat plastic n stuff. idfk why. :shrug:



I have consistently left my coke out on my coffee table sitting on a plate for weeks at a time. Id buy 2 or 3 balls and crush it all on the plate, then leave it there open to the air for basically nightly use. Never ever once ever in never did I ever see any of my coke get liquidy or goopy or anything of the sort. LOL

I get high quality coke though.




Sounds like amphetamine.sulphate to me :lol:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Beanhead]
    #21831906 - 06/20/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mine or his? Cuz I know %100 for sure I had cocaine hcl


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Zombi3]
    #21831965 - 06/20/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

His goopy crap :P


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Artex]
    #21832067 - 06/20/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If it's actually a marble counter, the GBL dissolved the sealant.  If your parents ask, you spilled acetone while cleaning up some superglue and forgot about it (you may have to go buy some nail polish remover and superglue to get away with that lie).  Be careful with your drugs and other chemicals.

Solvent doesn't mean more dangerous.  Dimethyl sulfoxide is an industrial solvent and a byproduct of paper production.  You can drink it (I do not recommend for it tastes like a mash of garlic and rotting leaves) and it will not harm you.  It is also used to preserve organs prior to transplant.  If the drug is telling you it's time to quit, it's time to quit, otherwise, don't let a little solvent accident scare you.



Well said. What put me off about GBL was its plasticy taste. the whole thing feels really nasty and chemically to me

I will try and convert to ghb. MAybe I mixed ghb with soda and that masked the taste. But ghb rarely had any taste. GBL on the other hand has had taste but that may be becuase I quit drinking soda and sugary stuff

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    #21832117 - 06/20/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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if you leave a coke out in air it like turns into a liquid or goop and can like eat plastic n stuff. idfk why. :shrug:



I have consistently left my coke out on my coffee table sitting on a plate for weeks at a time. Id buy 2 or 3 balls and crush it all on the plate, then leave it there open to the air for basically nightly use. Never ever once ever in never did I ever see any of my coke get liquidy or goopy or anything of the sort. LOL

I get high quality coke though.




I had very pure cocaine in south america that did that. I doubt you have 100% coke. Even if you wash it you are not 100%


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21832128 - 06/20/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't say it was %100 coke.

Just because you were in South America doesn't mean you had high quality coke.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21832131 - 06/20/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im telln you guys ok i only by pure coke ok that shit will melt sometime even over night


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21832448 - 06/20/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I am just saying, I think that these arguements are fairly silly. "I have had pure coke and this was what it looked/felt like. Your description of what it looks/feels like is slightly different therefore your coke must have been cut"
"I know for a fact it was quality because I got it from a trusted friend"

I am yet to meet a person who says "I get low quality stuff". Everyone always speaks with great certainty that their product is pure or high quality. The only two ways one could aqucire pure product is if they made it themselves or they bought it off silk road and it was tested. Otherwise it is really speculation


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21832458 - 06/20/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've said many times I had low quality blow. But when I have good quality I say that also.

My dealer has 3 grades of coke.

It's entirely possible to get good drugs without dark web. Canada has a booming scene of clean drugs.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Zombi3]
    #21832469 - 06/20/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've said many times I had low quality blow. But when I have good quality I say that also.

My dealer has 3 grades of coke.

It's entirely possible to get good drugs without dark web. Canada has a booming scene of clean drugs.



I actually assumed canada had a booming drug scene in general from friends and family in that area

But regardless these types of convos come up and generally speaking I'm speechless. Its really speculation as to what another person in another country on the internet has. My post had to do with you the least. It was more directed at others in this convo


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21832488 - 06/20/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

9/10 people absolutely over sell and brag about their product though you are right. And nobody who uses dark net has any right to brag about their drugs.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Zombi3]
    #21832505 - 06/20/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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9/10 people absolutely over sell and brag about their product though you are right. And nobody who uses dark net has any right to brag about their drugs.



Or speak with great certainty about their quality and the quality of other's product

:thumbup:

Other than a blotter tasting metallic and numbing the mouth (which indicates nbome), its really hard to say. I cant count how many times someone has said "Your molly is brown" or "your molly is impure because it didnt look like mine". I just sit there like
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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Zombi3]
    #21832507 - 06/20/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeh im not jus ne one talking outta my ass here guys. I dont even care if you believe me doest make a diff to me. Seems to me like u guys r the ones with shitty coke honestly. N yes  Canada has ton of good blow good job Ndrangheta!


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21832513 - 06/20/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeh im not jus ne one talking outta my ass here guys. I dont even care if you believe me doest make a diff to me. Seems to me like u guys r the ones with shitty coke honestly. N yes  Canada has ton of good blow good job Ndrangheta!



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Yeh im not jus ne one talking outta my ass here guys. I dont even care if you believe me doest make a diff to me. Seems to me like u guys r the ones with shitty coke honestly. N yes  Canada has ton of good blow good job Ndrangheta!


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Never done coke so I def haven't had shitty coke


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: koods]
    #21832530 - 06/20/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be careful with the NaOH you use to convert the GBL. That stuff will dissolve your flesh.




No it won't. Sodium hydroxide is a strong base


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21832579 - 06/20/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats funny cuz a biker gang by me was notorious for puttin bodies in barrels with lye n sinking em in the Thames. Maybe spill some on you and find out the meaning of the word caustic


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21832646 - 06/20/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be careful with the NaOH you use to convert the GBL. That stuff will dissolve your flesh.




No it won't. Sodium hydroxide is a strong base



Lye will burn your flesh. Fact.


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Zombi3]
    #21832667 - 06/20/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I guess I'm just speaking from experience. I've spilled my fair share of NaOH on myself in the lab and it didn't really do much of anything :shrug:


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21832687 - 06/20/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I guess I'm just speaking from experience. I've spilled my fair share of NaOH on myself in the lab and it didn't really do much of anything :shrug:



I did this in high school chem as well but for me it was diluted. I am not sure but you may want to look that up


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21832701 - 06/20/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have brad pitt kiss ur skin first thatll help


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Re: So I think I am done using GBL....(sketch story) [Re: topdog82]
    #21832708 - 06/20/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i got a couple of drops of tsubaki oil(tea oil + mineral oil, for preserving carbon steel) on my wooden desk and it stained it in seconds because of how viscous it is. i cleaned up literally within 25 seconds but it sunk all the way past the finish and into the wood


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