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kosmokratorshaman
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Hydroskiopsis System 1
#21827804 - 06/19/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am working on a hydroponic pereskiopsis system inspired by the work of a friend Anne Halonium. I have coined the term Hydroskiopsis to identify my system and my system alone.
The unit consists of a 27 cylindrical chambers packed tightly. This block sits in a tray of water, and it covered with a humidity dome. The cylindrical chambers are filled with vermiculite which works as a wick system for the pereskiopsis. I attached an air stone and pump inside the humidity dome.
I currently have the system under four 23w CFL bulbs. I intend to build a better light system tomorrow. I will also update with photos tomorrow.
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Plan to graft or only to grow Pereskiopsis hydroponically?
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21828117 - 06/19/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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kosmokratorshaman you seem like a really chill guy/girl and I really enjoy having you around here.
Please take Annes name out of that post "if you don't mind". In the past there has been a lot of issues and arguments "surrounding that name" that I've enjoyed not seeing around lately.
I enjoy seeing new teks and progress being made but I'm REALLY hoping this doesn't turn out like the last situation we had here.
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kosmokratorshaman
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She inspired my new system. Thats all I said. I am not going to rave on about her, but I felt it is important to give credit where due.
Noone is going to act immature or childish about that name this time. People need to put shit in the past. You wont be seeing her name all over, so please just let it go.
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Edited by kosmokratorshaman (06/19/15 05:14 PM)
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kosmokratorshaman
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To start, it is just to grow the pereskiopsis to where i want it. Once the cuttings root, ill be grafting to all 27.
I had some small spindly peres that i have to beef up and multiply.
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kosmokratorshaman said: She inspired my new system. Thats all I said. I am not going to rave on about her, but I felt it is important to give credit where due.
Noone is going to act immature or childish about that name this time. People need to put shit in the past. You wont be seeing her name all over, so please just let it go.
I'm sorry kosmo it just reminded me of that time that was uncomfortable.
I understand what you mean now though and I know you don't have that same "in your face" attitude so I'm ready to see what you got going on because it sounds interesting.
Keep up the good work kosmo
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kosmokratorshaman said:I had some small spindly peres that i have to beef up and multiply.
Your inspiration mentioned more than once that thick Peres will come from exposing the plants to wind. My own observations seem to confirm this. Note, however, that putting them in the sun will make them grow the thick and sparse lozenge shaped leaves (and nasty spines) instead of the dense lanceolate supple ones. I believe that the proper way to grow thick and leafy peres is to keep them in bright shade in an exposed situation - perhaps under a tree?
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: LSoares]
#21829893 - 06/19/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spot on information, LSoares. I'd just like to add that a hydro setup would be great if you don't mind all the expensive equipment. Good light is crucial to solid pereskiopsis growth and one would need an expensive HPS or MH setup, like you mentioned. Nothing compares to sunlight, however. I think your advice on outdoors under the shade of a tree is the ideal scenario, considering constant full sun can quickly cook the plant to death. Since the plant has tropical origins, I imagine that it evolved in an area that was lush with many other taller plants with an abundance of shade mixed with bright sunlight of the equator.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: LSoares]
#21830270 - 06/19/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LSoares said:
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kosmokratorshaman said:I had some small spindly peres that i have to beef up and multiply.
Your inspiration mentioned more than once that thick Peres will come from exposing the plants to wind. My own observations seem to confirm this. Note, however, that putting them in the sun will make them grow the thick and sparse lozenge shaped leaves (and nasty spines) instead of the dense lanceolate supple ones. I believe that the proper way to grow thick and leafy peres is to keep them in bright shade in an exposed situation - perhaps under a tree?
I am seeing good results so far from the CFL's with no wind. I plan to rebuild my light system tomorrow to work for my pereskiopsis. I cant afford expensive LEDs and I do not have space for HPS.
I have multiple experiments going with the peres. Once I get good stock, than I can put some outside in a shaded area to really thrive. Right now, the primary goal is to get 27 well rooted cuttings to graft onto.
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picture!!
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: 1234go]
#21833124 - 06/20/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I get home, ill post one.
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Subscribed. Tell Anne I said hi.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: psi]
#21833748 - 06/20/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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first pic
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1234go
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nice set up, pretty cool.
those suck as cylinder ice trays though,
i had one once and could never get all the "cubes" out in one piece.
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: 1234go]
#21835534 - 06/21/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree. Poorly designed ice tray.
I am going to put an old computer fan into the system for air flow and to strengthen the stems. I just need ideas on how to power the fan. I am thinking about rigging it to attach to a 9v battery, but I am not electrically minded.
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1234go
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or they sell cheap little fans at walmart that do the job great.
i'm electrically and mechanically challenged myself, wish i could help.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: 1234go]
#21836487 - 06/21/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive got old computer parts, and I think with a quick splice, I can probably get it to run off the 9v. Plug in fan would be easier, but I think too bulky for the experiment.
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kosmokratorshaman
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UPDATE: The hydroskiopsis system was not getting enough light inside, so I moved the whole setuo outside. It received morning sun every day for the last month or so. The plants initially started to grow, but stalled rather quickly. I ended up pulling the 16 pereskiopsis in the system and planting them to soil. Some of them had decent roots, but not what I would expect from 6 weeks. I expect new growth to begin pretty quickly. I will probably rework the hydroskiopsis system and try it again. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for sharing. My own experience was that growth with the hydro thing was no match for rich soil and plenty of water, but I was not too careful with the roots (a note Annie only added lately). I don't think I'll try it again, my current "conventional" conditions give me enough Peres for my needs with very little fuss.
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Re: Hydroskiopsis System [Re: LSoares]
#22018368 - 07/30/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSoares said: Thanks for sharing. My own experience was that growth with the hydro thing was no match for rich soil and plenty of water, but I was not too careful with the roots (a note Annie only added lately). I don't think I'll try it again, my current "conventional" conditions give me enough Peres for my needs with very little fuss.
I agree, my soil plants were twice as big. Hopefully they will all take off soon though. I have a grafting itch I need to scratch.
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