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Re: Enlightenment through meditation? [Re: lessismore]
    #21853708 - 06/25/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It often looks like there is an "enlightenment" state for each chakra

I can be, and have sex, feel free  - this must be the ultimate enlightenment
I can feel - be free with my emotions, create with my emotions
I can do - help others and myself
I can love - my love is not limited to myself
I can speak - and change the world markedly with my words
I can see - few coincidences , and use this vision to better the world
I understand - oneness


So you raise your vibration it seems

The lowest chakra often thinks that is all there is, and people without any chakras activated feel that they are there too

But there are many levels of 'enlightened', if you believe in chakras


Each step often feel they are enlightened, but I don't believe it is possible before reaching the top chakra and heart chakra enough, those are the ones that clear ignorance and bring compassion

Without compassion the ego controls us


(to those that believe in chakras)

So 7 chakras, and even people with all 7 chakras blocked can believe they are enlightened too (overactive ego). It often looks like the ego can block certain chakras of ours, with fear, hate, guilt etc. and then we are not free, we just think we are free

A person that is free knows he is free, he doesn't have to rationalize it , people around the person would know it too, because a truly enlightened person would not just sit around most likely

A person who could get into nirvana probably wouldn't just sit around in Nirvana all his life with his fellow humans suffering, he would go out of nirvana to help others


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Re: Enlightenment through meditation? [Re: youknowyou] * 1
    #21853812 - 06/25/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
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youknowyou said:

people who say meditation is not for them is only because thye do not know what is meditation and the necessary prerequisite to be able to succesfully meditate.









I used to think so, meditation is boring and for monks only

But it was my ego mind that was afraid to let go and try something new


Afraid to invest maybe an hour each week or 2 hours each week in nature, or where you feel you meditate best

Maybe meditation could be worth it if we invest enough time

Many people seem to recommend it...


Meditation is simple: sit in nature, observe, relax, close eyes, breathe slowly
If you do this at least 3 times I promise you will feel a difference ;-P

It can be addicting...


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Re: Enlightenment through meditation? [Re: lessismore]
    #21857852 - 06/25/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

fairly perfectly skillful post, lessismore :smile:


ya, , , 'go into nature and see the infinite'  is one simple phrase i have shared. . .

or as peter tosh say, 'get out of the city,' : )


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