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Using mushrooms as medicine?
    #21826965 - 06/19/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think this is sort of funny to share... so when I was 17, I got caught doing drugs by my parents all the time. Mostly weed, alcohol and unfortunately dxm. One day my mom found crumbs of leftover mushrooms in a bag under my bed and started freaking out saying I could've killed myself blah blah blah.

I was also starting to see a psychologist, which was sooooooooo damn retarded. Don't ever go my friends unless you truly have an issue. I just have anxiety but mostly dwpression. His fucking answer to any problem was Jesus Christ and ssris. So obviously, a lot of these doctors are pretty ignorant. Anyways, i noticed weed and mushrooms were doing great things for it. Granted I only smoked like twice a week and only tried shrooms twice at this point.

So here I am at the doctors office with my GP,, and my mom while they were gonna start me on prozac. And i asked, "can't I smoke weed every now and then and trip on mushrooms maybe once a month or so? This works wonders for my depression..." they just laughed at me and wrote my script for prozac...

About 7 years later, I find myself truly against the poisonous ssris. They are so horrible for us. It's a fucking business scheme and a joke. That shit is depressing. I do understand that some people truly do need them, but they hand out those scripts like candy. Anyways, today I am doing exactly what I asked to do all those years ago. And I've never been happier. Way better than a drone on ssris. I urge anyone to try weed or shrooms first before signing up to be on ssris.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21826978 - 06/19/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree.


Have you tried microdosing with shrooms?


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: Zorroro]
    #21827047 - 06/19/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I agree.


Have you tried microdosing with shrooms?




This is such an interesting topic that really needs to be researched...  but not by the novice.  So... yea - it's unfortunate.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21827128 - 06/19/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yea man, ssri's just turn people into zombies which is exactly what the government wants, turns people into emotionless, dumbed down souls unable to think for themselves.

Then on the other hand shrooms and psychedelics actually get u in touch with your emotions... what a shame right, people thinking for themselves, questioning what they are told, feeling their emotions.

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I do understand that some people truly do need them




in most cases some therapy, meditation, and love can cure depression or anxiety


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #21827149 - 06/19/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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in most cases some therapy, meditation, and love can cure depression or anxiety




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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21827395 - 06/19/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

mushies helped me with depression a lot. It helps you see the positives in life.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: Heisencybin] * 1
    #21827434 - 06/19/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds like you were pressured into taking SSRIs.  Which of course doesn't work.  If I pressured you into taking DMT and you had a bad trip you'd blame me instead of learning from your trip.  This is a major reason Ayahuasca churches don't proselytize, the other big reason of course being the drug war and needing to cover their own ass.

SSRIs do work and no, meditation, therapy, and love don't cure depression or anxiety disorders.  They can certainly help people that are dealing with sadness or anxiety but these are emotions, not mental illness.

Pathways in the brain develop and reinforce themselves over many years.  It's a materialistic problem and one that needs a materialistic solution.  Mushrooms and Ayahuasca showed me this.  But neither of them have a long enough half life to help me stabilize my mood day in and day out.

I suffer from an anxiety disorder.  It manifests mostly as anger.  It's adversely affected my life and the lives of those closest to me.  SSRIs have been an amazing help.  And why not?  I love serotonin.  I love Ayahuasca.  I love MDMA.  I love Mushrooms.  What's so evil about taking a drug that I can function on daily that helps me have more of what I seem to need anyway?

By the way, I take Lexapro and still eat mushrooms often and smoke weed every night.  I also yell a lot less at my kids and fight less with my wife.  That doesn't make me an emotionless zombie.  It makes me a grown up that chooses to get help with his problems for the sake of my family.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21827464 - 06/19/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

and then some people, SSRI's turn into raging lunatics.

I'm glad to hear they work for you.  It's not often we get to hear a strong story like yours.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: meowshroom]
    #21827767 - 06/19/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But you don't think years of constant use of ssri's can actually have negative side effects on your brain and emotions, just as any drug would. I am generally against constant use of drugs.

well I was obviously generalizing a bit but I put "in most cases" so i'm not saying they don't help some people, I was simply trying to point out the fact that they are over prescribed and many people can find a cure for their depression or anxiety through other means.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #21835957 - 06/21/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But you don't think years of constant use of ssri's can actually have negative side effects on your brain and emotions, just as any drug would. I am generally against constant use of drugs.




Why?  Is a diabetic doing something wrong by taking insulin daily?  As for your first question, sure, antidepressants can have side effects.  I've done the research and I'm willing to live with the side effects if it means myself and those closest to me can have a more peaceful life.

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well I was obviously generalizing a bit but I put "in most cases" so i'm not saying they don't help some people,




You were generalizing more than a bit.  In most cases antidepressants can help people that actually suffer from depression and anxiety disorders.  Not every antidepressant will work for everyone and in many cases people have to go through a few before they find one that works for them.  In my case I was fairly sure that an SSRI would work as I'd been self-medicating with serotonin based drugs for a long long time.

Again, I thought about this decision for a long time and did my research before making an informed decision.

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I was simply trying to point out the fact that they are over prescribed and many people can find a cure for their depression or anxiety through other means.




Sure.  Over marketed too.  In your case I think they were pushed on you heavily by your mom.

And again I disagree that many people with depression or an anxiety disorder have other options.  I tried.  I was very skeptical about going on psych meds.  Again it goes to being over prescribed and over marketed.  Sadness is not depression.  Stress is not an anxiety disorder.  We all feel overwhelmed by our emotions sometimes.  When it's a daily thing and you've tried other options there's nothing wrong with looking at antidepressants.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21836116 - 06/21/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

About 2 years ago or so, I was in some sort of minor psychosis, I could act mostly normal but was so delusional and depressed it was super hard to act. Overall it was just hard to tell what was fake or what was real. My psychiatrist diagnosed me with Schizoaffective disorder. (At the time I only had smoked weed)

I didn't want to take psych meds, and I never did take them. I worked through the psychosis, and was recovering from it mostly. Still a little disconnection from reality, but I was suffering pretty major depression still. Through much love from my girlfriend, I was trying to get out of it.

I had a trip on mushrooms, and it completely blew the depression away. I had been suffering from mild depression for almost a year at that point. After the mushroom trip I was more grounded in reality, and my psychiatrist said that I had a completely healthy psyche. I guess I took a gamble on tripping, but it was the best fucking gamble of my life.

Any sort of anxieties or delusions I had from the schizo breakdown, are gone. And even though it wasn't the mushrooms alone that helped me get through that phase, they did help so amazingly. I'll always love mushrooms for helping me get rid of any sort of depression


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: Achillita]
    #21837678 - 06/21/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've never used ssri's paperbackwriter, OP did, and you make a compelling argument about chronic use, and u made an informed decision, which is the number one thing that I advocate with drug use.


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Re: Using mushrooms as medicine? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #21837691 - 06/21/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

inspiring story Achillita!


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