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coffeehead
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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: JeNousAime]
#21829106 - 06/19/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As a preface, I have attempted to grow mushrooms only once and with the PFtek. I had to abandon the grow after colonization. I also don't easily remember all the steps of the PFtek, (although I think I could remember it with effort). With this being said, I believe that when using the PFtek to grow mushrooms there will be a small contamination.
Pressure cookers have a rubber seal which lies between the lid and the pot. This rubber will be heated and off gas, and then contaminate the substrate. The substrate will have a small amount of rubber (which itself may have pesticides and other chemicals). The mushrooms might (not sure how mushrooms absorb nutrients) absorb these chemicals from the substrate. Therefore the mushrooms will have some impurity.
I believe that any impurity has some physiological therefore psychological effect. It may be imperceptible and in this case likely is. Impurities in psychedelics irritate me because they may alter the effects.
Please comment.
 A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
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NumeroEno
I come from the land of lizards



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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: coffeehead]
#21829552 - 06/19/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Love the Dr. Strangelove reference
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield! What shall we say, shall we call it by a name As well to count the angels dancing on a pin Water bright as the sky from which it came And the name is on the earth that takes it in DOG FOOD AGAR MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: NumeroEno]
#21829638 - 06/19/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Element1
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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: JeNousAime]
#21829876 - 06/19/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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JeNousAime said: As a preface, I have attempted to grow mushrooms only once and with the PFtek. I had to abandon the grow after colonization. I also don't easily remember all the steps of the PFtek, (although I think I could remember it with effort). With this being said, I believe that when using the PFtek to grow mushrooms there will be a small contamination.
Pressure cookers have a rubber seal which lies between the lid and the pot. This rubber will be heated and off gas, and then contaminate the substrate. The substrate will have a small amount of rubber (which itself may have pesticides and other chemicals). The mushrooms might (not sure how mushrooms absorb nutrients) absorb these chemicals from the substrate. Therefore the mushrooms will have some impurity.
I believe that any impurity has some physiological therefore psychological effect. It may be imperceptible and in this case likely is. Impurities in psychedelics irritate me because they may alter the effects.
Please comment.
Wow this has got to be the wackiest post on shroomery all week!
you assume the small rubber seal would "melt/produce gas" at the temperatures in a pressure cooker: boiling point of water (at sea level): 100 degrees C melting point of silicone: 230-500 degrees C depeniding on type super unlikely to melt.
even if it somehow does melt mushrooms are not going to absorb any chemicals from the rubber cuz they cant use it!
also i want to point out how retarded this sentence is:
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I believe that any impurity has some physiological therefore psychological effect. It may be imperceptible and in this case likely is. Impurities in psychedelics irritate me because they may alter the effects.
go take a biology lesson ffs
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: Element1]
#21830313 - 06/19/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You do realize there are toxins in the air, food, and water? Everywhere. Your car, your computer, your carpet....all this shit "off gasses". Yet, we're still alive.
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JeNousAime
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I am pretty sure melting point is not the same as temperature required to off gas...
I'm not worried about this killing me or having any effect, I just wanted to point out something that irritates some kind of simple perfectionist ideal I am guilty of.
Yes, everything has a psychoactive effect element.
If you ingest any amount of anything it will interact with the body, and the body is connected to the brain, and some people think the brain is connected to the mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulus
For instance if I ingest bpa, it has an effect on the endocrine system which alters hormone levels, which intern has an effect on metabolism, neurotransmittion or something which we can feel.
If we inhale some dust, it causes us to sneeze, this is psychoactive.
That dust stimulates the immune system, neurotransmitters are also involved histamine, dopamine etc...
Inhale a little dust, its a stimulus and the body releases minute amounts of adrenaline.
Why do you think the sentence is retarded? Do you not think that minute amounts of input to the biological system result in minute amounts of changes in the brain, which result in minute amounts of subjective effects? It may not be true but it is a reasonable thing to think, and I don't think it is retarded.
Perhaps you guys are just trying to tell me that this is not a good place to invest my worry (thoughts). In that case point well taken.
I'm done with this thread.
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Pressure Cooker Problem [Re: JeNousAime]
#21832770 - 06/20/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're never going to be able to control outside stimuli entirely. Pick your battles on what and what you're not you're willing to allow effect you. I think you're being a little too much of a control freak about this.
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