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Looks like I found a brugmansia
    #21825842 - 06/18/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)




I didn't realize how good these things smell. 



Also I wanna call this datura but not confident.




Brewing tea now


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #21825869 - 06/18/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not only did you find a Brugmansia but you found a variegated Brugmansia. You essentially hit the jackpot my friend. Ask for a cutting and grow it out.


That's not Datura either. I'll need some leaf and other pictures to make a guess.


Be careful if you really are making a tea and thinking of ingesting it. You should have a sober sitter for your own safety. I don't think people should use Brugmansia but people are free to do as they choose.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: karode13]
    #21825897 - 06/18/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wawawawawawaaw


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21825918 - 06/18/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There are 2 or 3 I think gotta look closer.  If I'm not mistaken that's salvia used as undergrowth.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21825958 - 06/18/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

datura is a dangerous one. Be careful if you actually take it.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21826298 - 06/19/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you drink tea of this "datura" you will have a hard time at the toilets...

It's a calystegia. Powerful purgative :grin: !


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Argyreia]
    #21826311 - 06/19/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good call Argyreia. Hopefully the OP hasn't combined the Two! :lol:  :zombie6:  :shitstorm:


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Argyreia]
    #21826460 - 06/19/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Figured it wasn't datura.  I spotted a few down the road that looked much closer though.

I'll get pics.
Any kind of an extraction I should use with the brugmansia?    Is this possible?  Acid base?

  Not sure Im ready for any acetylcholine blocker though.  I have not made any tea yet.

The flowers are the size of my head.  I would need a gallon of water to soak a single flower.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21829021 - 06/19/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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There are 2 or 3 I think gotta look closer.  If I'm not mistaken that's salvia used as undergrowth.




Plants below are not salvia divinorum


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21830144 - 06/19/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I believe a/b extraction is what criminals use to extract out the "devil's breath" to poison people.

You are either very brave or foolish to actually WANT to feel like that :awesomenod:


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21830373 - 06/19/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, this plant looks beautifull, I really dig the multicolored leaves.  :thumbup:
We have a few Brugmansia of different varieties in our town's parks /castlegrounds, but I've never seen leaves like that before.

The alkaloid content is hardly to tell with this kind of hybrid I guess.
Some varieties have all Scopolamin, Atropin an Hyoscyamin in all parts of the plant (B.insignis), some have mainly Scopolamine in the leaves (B.aurea, B.candida),
and some have only Atropin as the main alkaloid in the flowers while other compunds in the leaves (B.sanguinea).

It's more common to take 2-4 (midsized) leaves than a flower, if you really want to ingest some. You can smoke the dried leaves to start small..

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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21830545 - 06/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I didn't realize how good these things smell. 






whaaaaaaaaat, variegated brug? ......i hate you....so bad....:grin:


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: 1234go]
    #21830670 - 06/19/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Took a few more pics.  Excited that Im prolly gonna be allowed a cutting or two.  So stoked.








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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21830673 - 06/19/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If only brugs had dmt instead of scopolamine/atropine  :deemsters:

They are so beautiful but so not my bag of tea :shrug:


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21830852 - 06/20/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whatt???

You don't want to hang out with the shadow people and black out for probably around a day :confused:

:rofl:


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: musiclover420]
    #21830951 - 06/20/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There are a lot of days I don't remember.  I couldn't tell you what I did 52 days ago. So I don't see that big of a deal of losing 2-3 days.  Or Experience a differnt reality.


Truly not sure how I'm feeling about an acetylcholine blocker though.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21830984 - 06/20/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have a terrible memory too, and I do get why people experiment with it I was just making a joke.

I have considered micro dosing datura with other things for its anti nausea properties.

Definitely some interesting stuff around those plants, though they do seem almost sinister from everything I have read of the experience.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21831003 - 06/20/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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acetylcholine blocker




Yeah could go wrong with a medium to large dose. However, it has been done before and i'm not knocking it either. I just personally dont like it for anything except its beautiful flowers.

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You don't want to hang out with the shadow people and black out for probably around a day




I quit doing meth for days on end years ago :laugh2:

I love the look of brugmansias but like musiclover420 said.. it can be quite intense


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: musiclover420]
    #21831017 - 06/20/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea Ive read they use it for smoking cessation successfully also it's used In motion sickness as well as other safe effective Medicinal therapies.

Isn't the differnce from a poison and a medicine simply dose dependent.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21831059 - 06/20/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yup, that is the only difference between a medicine and a poison.

Most if not all medicine can be toxic if used wrong and most if not all poisons can be used medicinally if used correct :lol:

Humans have pretty complex bodies, makes medicine pretty confuzzling.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: musiclover420]
    #21831065 - 06/20/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

sorry buddy, i don't want to jack your thread.

I only need a confirm on this to be Brugmansia



And i would like to know what is this also, if anybody does know


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21831071 - 06/20/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here's what you're thinking about getting into:
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura_General.shtml

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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21831081 - 06/20/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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that is the only difference between a medicine and a poison.




Its not the only difference. Route of administration is also a major difference.

Ethanol is fun when taken orally but IV some and you will most certainly die very quickly.

Bufotenine is also a good example. If taken certain ways it poisons the body, other methods lead to a clean psychedelic experience with minimal side-effects


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Toadstool5]
    #21831414 - 06/20/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Lemnaminor said:
sorry buddy, i don't want to jack your thread.

I only need a confirm on this to be Brugmansia



And i would like to know what is this also, if anybody does know






first is a brugmansia

second is datura, innoxia or wrightii.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21831902 - 06/20/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your not hijacking anything.

If someone could post some  Caapi pics and other possible ayahuasca vines I'd appreciate it.


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #21832501 - 06/20/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

is that your outdoor patch man? WOW


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Re: Looks like I found a brugmansia [Re: 1234go]
    #21832666 - 06/20/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The ovoid patch was huuuuge last spring.  It is in a very well know. Public area.  You could smell it from 20-30 yards away.  I didn't post all the pics either it was magnificent


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