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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zZZz]
    #21825671 - 06/18/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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people can vote just cuz they have their i.d...

anyone can get an id..





i have an I.D. and still don't vote. fuck it. how much of a difference can it make? they're all pieces of shit.

PA is nowhere near legalizing recreational cannabis, which is the only reason i would ever go to a vote voluntarily.
and i would never be eligible for medical, because of my drug abuse history. so i could give two stinking fucks about that.



pay me 100$ and i will vote for whatever candidate you wish. otherwise? no reason to waste my time. i'd rather read shitposts on the shroomery


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21825684 - 06/18/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No they don't. That doesn't mean they should be forced to spend money on an ID to do so (aka not be allowed to vote via jim crow esque laws). That is what conservatives believe, and I am 100% against any form of discrimination.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21825695 - 06/18/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, I got an idea.  Since the liberals are so big on giving people free stuff, AND giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, maybe they should pass laws to give people free ID cards so they can vote?  :smirk:


Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.

Now, if this bitch is black, AL Sharpton is the Grand Wizard of the fucking KKK.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21825702 - 06/18/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.

That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR




If you are too stupid to keep your ID should you even vote?  The poor spend more than that on booze in a week.




Prime example of discrimination

Even though that isn't what I said. How can you protect your stuff when you are homeless and sleeping?


I mean shit look at that study I linked maybe because conservatives have a lower IQ than the rest of the population maybe they shouldn't vote!

(while I don't honestly think that, I hope you understand the point I am trying to make)




I got news for you, many of these so called highly educated "liberals" are nothing more than a bunch of phonies. Yes, they claim they aren't racist or they relate to liberal ideas, but that's nothing more than BS.

I know the people you are talking about, they have high level college degrees, they live in very nice neighborhoods, their children go to the best schools, they don't ever associate with any minority unless completely necessary.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21825708 - 06/18/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey, I got an idea.  Since the liberals are so big on giving people free stuff, AND giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, maybe they should pass laws to give people free ID cards so they can vote?  :smirk:


Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.

Now, if this bitch is black, AL Sharpton is the Grand Wizard of the fucking KKK.




See now this is a topic that I have legitimate views on both sides. I do not support illegal immigration whatsoever, I think it is bad for our country (although ethically/morally I am okay with it). On the other side of the spectrum, free IDs would be great. Although it is a form of income from our government (which is a liberal idea) I would be okay with it. After that happened, I would be okay with requiring an ID to vote. Only then does it make sense.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21825710 - 06/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/


It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....



So why don't they just get a fucking ID? :facepalm:

For what it's worth I'm conservative and against the idea but come on... That's like how the NAACP in Cincinnati thinks moving polling stations a mile will disenfranchise blacks from voting because they're for some reason incapable of going one extra mile. Fucking ridiculous. I have to drive six miles to vote and they're too lazy to go a couple blocks down the street.




You and zig seem to be conceptualizing an entire voting bloc as a single, relatable individual who is as responsible for himself as each of you are for yourselves. We are actually talking about a group of thousands of people, and their seemingly marginal difference of access to the polls makes a significant difference when the votes are collected.



You get weeks.  It isn't one day like it used to be.  That actually favored the bums because it was a work day for most people.




You're doing it again. I don't think either of us can begin to fathom the full range of pressures under which those millions of people live and by which their ability to meet voting requirements are affected. It's absurd to lay your own personal norms with regard to time, space, and money upon millions of people. This is an outlook that favors people similar to yourself while disenfranchising those who are not. Right-wing politics in a nutshell.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21825713 - 06/18/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey, I got an idea.  Since the liberals are so big on giving people free stuff, AND giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, maybe they should pass laws to give people free ID cards so they can vote?  :smirk:


Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.

Now, if this bitch is black, AL Sharpton is the Grand Wizard of the fucking KKK.




now it sounds like ur talking about a show on the e channel like 'keeping up with the kardashians'


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: qman]
    #21825714 - 06/18/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds a lot like those conservative scientific facts I have been hearing all about. Are you calling me a phony? :lol: Just because I am liberal and don't think people should be discriminated against doesn't mean I can't be successful.

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap

I am around these types of people all the time, hell I used to be one of them myself. Goes back to the beginning where I was talking about life experience.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21825715 - 06/18/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.






sucking it up?

i dont think anyone is sucking it up as anything more than a pathetic joke. a racially obsessive, probably aspergers redhead, freckled, ugly little white girl masquerades as a black woman


she is just a pity case. a delusional little girl who was tired of being ignored because she was an average person


there aren't many people on her side. she is a subject of ridicule.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Adolin]
    #21825725 - 06/18/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

they need to start looking for candidates in the hood. these millionaires just wont do


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zZZz]
    #21825733 - 06/18/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey, I got an idea.  Since the liberals are so big on giving people free stuff, AND giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, maybe they should pass laws to give people free ID cards so they can vote?  :smirk:


Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.

Now, if this bitch is black, AL Sharpton is the Grand Wizard of the fucking KKK.




now it sounds like ur talking about a show on the e channel like 'keeping up with the kardashians'





No this bitch is fucking out of her mind, shes a nutcase.  Didn't you pick up on that?  And the Touchy Feelies are playing it up like 'she has a right to be black if she thinks she is' and shit like that.  Its the most absurd nonsense I've ever heard. :rofl2:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/06/18/rachel_dolezal_americas_newest_victim_127024.html


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21825752 - 06/18/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey, I got an idea.  Since the liberals are so big on giving people free stuff, AND giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, maybe they should pass laws to give people free ID cards so they can vote?  :smirk:


Speaking of dumb liberal shit, how about this Rachael Dozeal, or whatever the fuck this stupid bitches name is?  SHe is claiming to be black, and people are sucking it up.

Now, if this bitch is black, AL Sharpton is the Grand Wizard of the fucking KKK.




See now this is a topic that I have legitimate views on both sides. I do not support illegal immigration whatsoever, I think it is bad for our country (although ethically/morally I am okay with it). On the other side of the spectrum, free IDs would be great. Although it is a form of income from our government (which is a liberal idea) I would be okay with it. After that happened, I would be okay with requiring an ID to vote. Only then does it make sense.





Now, this IS one issue that liberals are starting to come around on, illegal immigration.  I don't normally support self-proclaimed socialists, but Bernie Sanders is right as rain on this issue when he called out the Democrats for supporting a policy that will kill jobs in the US. 

One other point, the ID cards aren't free anyway.  The government took the money from us in the fucking first place.  And I hope you get that.  The government is pretending like it is doing us a favor when it gives us money that was ours in the first place.  IT isn't fucking theirs.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21825787 - 06/18/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds a lot like those conservative scientific facts I have been hearing all about. Are you calling me a phony? :lol: Just because I am liberal and don't think people should be discriminated against doesn't mean I can't be successful.

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap

I am around these types of people all the time, hell I used to be one of them myself. Goes back to the beginning where I was talking about life experience.




"Are you calling me a phony?"

I don't know you, I know plenty of people that claim to be liberals but that's because the live in a nice safe bubble. They don't want to live next to minorities, they don't want to associate with minorities, they don't want their children to go to school or associate with minorities, they want all the liberal stuff to be in theoretical land and nothing more.

They talk one thing and then do the complete opposite, it's hip to be a free thinking liberal, but when the rubber meets the road it's right back to what's best for ME!!


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #21825794 - 06/18/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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They might as well be. I like anything that starts out with sweeping generalizations like "liberals are" or "conservatives are", because it signals that whatever follows is going to be a waste if time and may be ignored.

People and their ideologies are not monolithic. The go-to claims that ideologues from either side toss out so readily are specious at best, often conveniently ignoring context or nuance in favor of simple point-scoring sound-bites. It may be fun to find the biggest caricature in a given group and then attempt to paint the entire group with this narrow brush, but this is at best a dim reflection of reality.

No wonder then that things are so gridlocked in DC. Many people, politicians and regular citizens alike, are so caught up in this binary world-view that they are literally incapable of looking at anything from a nonpartisan viewpoint. Go anywhere you like on the internet and you will find those who bring partisan political discourse into it, usually by trying to associate something "bad" with all of "those other people".

It is sad that so much of the debate is driven by the shrill idiots at the extremes. It would be nice to take the opportunities presented and have open and honest discussion about these many difficult, complex and important issues. It is hard though, when the deck is stacked with so many bent on polarizing the debate from the get-go. Therefore, typically it reduced to partisan bickering - usually with a stiff application of incorrect "facts", unfounded claims and abject hypocrisy thrown in the mix.




This is the only sane post in this entire thread.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: qman]
    #21825805 - 06/18/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds a lot like those conservative scientific facts I have been hearing all about. Are you calling me a phony? :lol: Just because I am liberal and don't think people should be discriminated against doesn't mean I can't be successful.

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap

I am around these types of people all the time, hell I used to be one of them myself. Goes back to the beginning where I was talking about life experience.




"Are you calling me a phony?"

I don't know you, I know plenty of people that claim to be liberals but that's because the live in a nice safe bubble. They don't want to live next to minorities, they don't want to associate with minorities, they don't want their children to go to school or associate with minorities, they want all the liberal stuff to be in theoretical land and nothing more.

They talk one thing and then do the complete opposite, it's hip to be a free thinking liberal, but when the rubber meets the road it's right back to what's best for ME!!




Although I haven't seen what you are describing, it does make me sick. That is just as hypocritical as a conservative saying they aren't discriminatory, then when you dig a little deeper you prove they actually are...

I do understand what you mean by phony now. I am glad I haven't met anyone like that before because I would raise hell haha


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21825812 - 06/18/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

there's only like one or two leaders. ofcourse only like the 1% will reap the rewards of the economy

if i had the choice to conquer a country i'd gather all my peeps together and conquer. but little would they know that i would be their king. eventually the;d get jelous and try to overthrow me or assassinate me. that's why i/d kill them before then even get the chance.

yea, this isnt our country, no land belongs to us. we were just used as pawns for someone elses game


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zZZz]
    #21825823 - 06/18/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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there's only like one or two leaders. ofcourse only like the 1% will reap the rewards of the economy

if i had the choice to conquer a country i'd gather all my peeps together and conquer. but little would they know that i would be their king. eventually the;d get jelous and try to overthrow me or assassinate me. that's why i/d kill them before then even get the chance.

yea, this isnt our country, no land belongs to us. we were just used as pawns for someone elses game




That is why I believe ethically/morally illegal immigration is okay, but the reality of it is we have already populated this land. When we came here, there were only a sparse number of people living here. The illegal immigrants are coming into an empire built by someone else and taking that empire's jobs.

On the other hand, if someone immigrates illegally and opens up their own shop/entrepreneurship I am more than okay with that.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21825866 - 06/18/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds a lot like those conservative scientific facts I have been hearing all about. Are you calling me a phony? :lol: Just because I am liberal and don't think people should be discriminated against doesn't mean I can't be successful.

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap

I am around these types of people all the time, hell I used to be one of them myself. Goes back to the beginning where I was talking about life experience.




"Are you calling me a phony?"

I don't know you, I know plenty of people that claim to be liberals but that's because the live in a nice safe bubble. They don't want to live next to minorities, they don't want to associate with minorities, they don't want their children to go to school or associate with minorities, they want all the liberal stuff to be in theoretical land and nothing more.

They talk one thing and then do the complete opposite, it's hip to be a free thinking liberal, but when the rubber meets the road it's right back to what's best for ME!!




Although I haven't seen what you are describing, it does make me sick. That is just as hypocritical as a conservative saying they aren't discriminatory, then when you dig a little deeper you prove they actually are...

I do understand what you mean by phony now. I am glad I haven't met anyone like that before because I would raise hell haha




They're the working professionals with the high IQ's, they're the people that present themselves as being very open minded, they're full of shit.

When you get older you will met tons of these hypocrites, enjoy!


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: qman]
    #21825872 - 06/18/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They are the entire white population of San Francisco.


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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: qman]
    #21825875 - 06/18/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I fucking hate those people. Berkeley is completely dominated by those people. The liberalism here is an aesthetic, nothing more.


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