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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: D.M.T]
#21825532 - 06/18/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: There are many examples... conservatives do not agree that minorities should get all the rights white christians do. It is fact and it is the building blocks of what conservatism is. Back before 1920 when the progressive movement occurred, the entire country was built on the idea of white christians owning black slaves. There was hardly, if any, separation of church and state. Most whites thought blacks were not people....
Do you know what conservatism means? It literally means wanting to keep those pre-progressive movement ideas.
You did take high school history class right?
If you can't provide proof then why do you keep spouting the same horse shit?
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21825544 - 06/18/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
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Conditional charity is not charity at all. I would be interested to know how much of the religious right's collection plate gets spent on social alienation vs. helping those in need here and abroad. The fact that the Republican coalition, for all the sweet ideals of its libertarian fringe, seems constitutionally incapable of supporting gay rights or racial justice is very telling IMO.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825562 - 06/18/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there is so much ignorance in this thread it makes me nauseous
most of the points in the OP are correct IMO.
i dont know how people on this board view me, but if it isnt obvious, i'm like 51% conservative, if you could even consider it that
i dont like whole black and white of 'always be progressive and modify society' and 'always keep things the same'
identifying as pepsi or coke is just stupid. they are the same damn thing. situations and problems should be judged on a case by case basis
but there are way more extremeist left-wingers in america than there are extreiest right-wingers. so i naturally drift to the right, to the lowest concentration of crazies
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825569 - 06/18/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Should also leave this here.... a legitimate study done that proves low IQ is linked to conservatism and racism, which was mentioned earlier in this thread, which are both proven to be forms of prejudice, linking back to what I was saying about how conservatives discriminate against minorities...
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206.abstract
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Adolin]
#21825574 - 06/18/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gresh said: there is so much ignorance in this thread it makes me nauseous
most of the points in the OP are correct IMO.
i dont know how people on this board view me, but if it isnt obvious, i'm like 51% conservative, if you could even consider it that
i dont like whole black and white of 'always be progressive and modify society' and 'always keep things the same'
identifying as pepsi or coke is just stupid. they are the same damn thing. situations and problems should be judged on a case by case basis
but there are way more extremeist left-wingers in america than there are extreiest right-wingers. so i naturally drift to the right, to the lowest concentration of crazies
Exactly, things need to be viewed on a case by case basis.... but I see more of these cases being factual and correct in liberal ideology...
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Adolin]
#21825576 - 06/18/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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millzy said: the "free market" is a classical liberal principle. but that principle was distorted to its utmost extreme by the reaganites in the 80's, hence the (pejorative) term "neoliberalism", which academics use to describe far right-wing ideology regarding world order and the global economy. but there i go being all informed and knowledgeable and stuff.

It was destroyed by FDR. The academics are by and large useless wankers who make a living inventing bullshit terms for their own self aggrandizement. Neither neoliberalism nor classical liberalism has anything to do with the modern usage of the word liberalism.
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Gresh said: there is so much ignorance in this thread it makes me nauseous
most of the points in the OP are correct IMO.
i dont know how people on this board view me, but if it isnt obvious, i'm like 51% conservative, if you could even consider it that
i dont like whole black and white of 'always be progressive and modify society' and 'always keep things the same'
identifying as pepsi or coke is just stupid. they are the same damn thing. situations and problems should be judged on a case by case basis
but there are way more extremeist left-wingers in america than there are right-wingers. so i naturally drift to the right, to the lowest concentration of crazies
Good post!
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825583 - 06/18/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
No no no no. Voter ID laws are most certainly not discriminatory. It disgusts me that you don't have to show proof of citizenship to vote while we are flooded with millions of illegal immigrants. There is nothing racially or sexually discriminatory about requiring ID for everyone unless you think that women and minorities are too stupid to get a simple ID card. This is Florida all over when people assumed that all the idiots who left hanging chads were Dem voters. Why do you think your side is so stupid?
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825587 - 06/18/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
So why don't they just get a fucking ID? 
That's like how the NAACP in Cincinnati thinks moving polling stations a mile will disenfranchise blacks from voting because they're for some reason incapable of going one extra mile. Fucking ridiculous. I have to drive six miles to vote and they're too lazy to go a couple blocks down the street.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21825596 - 06/18/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.
That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR
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Re: So I googled [Re: D.M.T]
#21825601 - 06/18/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
So why don't they just get a fucking ID? 
For what it's worth I'm conservative and against the idea but come on... That's like how the NAACP in Cincinnati thinks moving polling stations a mile will disenfranchise blacks from voting because they're for some reason incapable of going one extra mile. Fucking ridiculous. I have to drive six miles to vote and they're too lazy to go a couple blocks down the street.
You and zig seem to be conceptualizing an entire voting bloc as a single, relatable individual who is as responsible for himself as each of you are for yourselves. We are actually talking about a group of thousands of people, and their seemingly marginal difference of access to the polls makes a significant difference when the votes are collected.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825627 - 06/18/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.
That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR
If you are too stupid to keep your ID should you even vote? The poor spend more than that on booze in a week.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21825633 - 06/18/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.
That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR
If you are too stupid to keep your ID should you even vote? The poor spend more than that on booze in a week.
Prime example of discrimination
Even though that isn't what I said. How can you protect your stuff when you are homeless and sleeping?
I mean shit look at that study I linked maybe because conservatives have a lower IQ than the rest of the population maybe they shouldn't vote!
(while I don't honestly think that, I hope you understand the point I am trying to make)
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Gottaloveacid said: Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
So why don't they just get a fucking ID? 
For what it's worth I'm conservative and against the idea but come on... That's like how the NAACP in Cincinnati thinks moving polling stations a mile will disenfranchise blacks from voting because they're for some reason incapable of going one extra mile. Fucking ridiculous. I have to drive six miles to vote and they're too lazy to go a couple blocks down the street.
You and zig seem to be conceptualizing an entire voting bloc as a single, relatable individual who is as responsible for himself as each of you are for yourselves. We are actually talking about a group of thousands of people, and their seemingly marginal difference of access to the polls makes a significant difference when the votes are collected.
You get weeks. It isn't one day like it used to be. That actually favored the bums because it was a work day for most people.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21825647 - 06/18/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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people can vote just cuz they have an i.d...
anyone can get an id..
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
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Gottaloveacid said: You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.
That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR
If you are too stupid to keep your ID should you even vote? The poor spend more than that on booze in a week.
Prime example of discrimination
Even though that isn't what I said. How can you protect your stuff when you are homeless and sleeping?
I dunno. Put the card in your pocket? Just fucking stop. Do you really think the homeless go to the polls in any numbers?
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21825652 - 06/18/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Sigh.... like I said there are many examples. The first one that comes to mind in recent times is the entire "needing an ID to vote" conservative idea...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/how-voter-id-laws-are-being-used-to-disenfranchise-minorities-and-the-poor/254572/
It is trying to bring back jim crow laws.... which was also a conservative idea....
No no no no. Voter ID laws are most certainly not discriminatory. It disgusts me that you don't have to show proof of citizenship to vote while we are flooded with millions of illegal immigrants. There is nothing racially or sexually discriminatory about requiring ID for everyone unless you think that women and minorities are too stupid to get a simple ID card. This is Florida all over when people assumed that all the idiots who left hanging chads were Dem voters. Why do you think your side is so stupid?
One of your better ones. This is vintage zappa.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zZZz]
#21825656 - 06/18/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: people can vote just cuz they have an i.d...
anyone can get an id..
Yes they can. It is easy peasy.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
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Gottaloveacid said: You have to pay money to get an ID. If you are poor, other people rob you all the time and shit. It is a low level of living. Each time someone jacks your shit (which could contain your ID) you gotta pay another $15-20 to get a new one... not to mention they might need to pay to get a new birth certificate etc etc which all costs money poor people may not have.
That is why the title of the article is how it discriminates against minorities (which I could disagree with) and the POOR
If you are too stupid to keep your ID should you even vote? The poor spend more than that on booze in a week.
Prime example of discrimination
Even though that isn't what I said. How can you protect your stuff when you are homeless and sleeping?
I dunno. Put the card in your pocket? Just fucking stop. Do you really think the homeless go to the polls in any numbers?
Discrimination.....
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21825665 - 06/18/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Answer the question.
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