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Patlal
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: koods]
#21828983 - 06/19/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: The problem with conservative is that their ideology doesn't work in the real world. Try and try again, it always fails. Religious belief is a belief in something without evidence. Conservative ideology is even worse than religious belief - it is a belief in something that has been disproven. Repeatedly.
Let me stop you right there before you become the mirror image of those you are arguing against.
Conservatism does work.
It works pretty damm well too.
Conservatism built post war USA into a nuclear power house. Conservatism saved Canada from being as deep in shit as the US in 2008. Conservatism right now, is the reason why we don't have a deficit anymore despite the rest of developed nations struggling to breath.
Too much conservatism will sink you. Just like too much liberalism destroyed Green France and Spain.
Its never black and white. There are after all 50 shades of grey
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Shins]
#21828986 - 06/19/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He gives a link to a moonbat "study" that starts with people of low intelligence and decides they are more likely to be prejudiced than smarter people. Not the same thing at all he is trying to tell us. The usual lib bait and switch tricks. Fal uses those tricks too, he could teach gotta a few.
Wealthy people tend to be more conservative and also smarter. This is a fact. People lying about how much they make while they suck up welfare, not so smart.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Stonehenge]
#21829010 - 06/19/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: He gives a link to a moonbat "study" that starts with people of low intelligence and decides they are more likely to be prejudiced than smarter people. Not the same thing at all he is trying to tell us. The usual lib bait and switch tricks. Fal uses those tricks too, he could teach gotta a few.
Wealthy people tend to be more conservative and also smarter. This is a fact. People lying about how much they make while they suck up welfare, not so smart.
Wealthy people are more conservative because it costs them less money than high liberal taxes.
I am sorry you are willing to disbelieve anything that contradicts your viewpoints, but you are simply suporting my own argument that conservatives are delusional and full of themselves, so thanks for that.
I mean honestly, disbelieving a study just because you don't like it is a typical conservative move. Reminds me of the whole global warming thing that I never got the chance to hear back from Zappa on earlier in the thread after I bombarded him with evidence
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Patlal]
#21829030 - 06/19/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: The problem with conservative is that their ideology doesn't work in the real world. Try and try again, it always fails. Religious belief is a belief in something without evidence. Conservative ideology is even worse than religious belief - it is a belief in something that has been disproven. Repeatedly.
Let me stop you right there before you become the mirror image of those you are arguing against.
Conservatism does work.
It works pretty damm well too.
Conservatism built post war USA into a nuclear power house. Conservatism saved Canada from being as deep in shit as the US in 2008. Conservatism right now, is the reason why we don't have a deficit anymore despite the rest of developed nations struggling to breath.
Too much conservatism will sink you. Just like too much liberalism destroyed Green France and Spain.
Its never black and white. There are after all 50 shades of grey
Bullshit! The biggest change in American economic polices ever occurred in the late 30s and early 40s. And it was DISTINCTLY not conservative. It was, in fact, about as socialist as American economics has ever been. That is what made the US an economic powerhouse. This is completely separate from our military prowess. Remember that Eisenhower may have been a military guy, but he also believed in socialist ideals like building a government funded highway system.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: koods]
#21829035 - 06/19/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would have to disagree. What made the US economy so strong during that time period was WWII
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21829041 - 06/19/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh i thought the US economy was in shambles during ww2, with like food shortages and a lack of all sorts of basic supplies and shit. People getting paid with like IOUs or whatever.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: teamkiller]
#21829045 - 06/19/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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After WWII, there was a massive economic boom in the united states because we could use all of the materials and resources used during the war in our own country. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of soldiers came home to fill jobs
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Patlal
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: koods]
#21829049 - 06/19/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Patlal said:
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koods said: The problem with conservative is that their ideology doesn't work in the real world. Try and try again, it always fails. Religious belief is a belief in something without evidence. Conservative ideology is even worse than religious belief - it is a belief in something that has been disproven. Repeatedly.
Let me stop you right there before you become the mirror image of those you are arguing against.
Conservatism does work.
It works pretty damm well too.
Conservatism built post war USA into a nuclear power house. Conservatism saved Canada from being as deep in shit as the US in 2008. Conservatism right now, is the reason why we don't have a deficit anymore despite the rest of developed nations struggling to breath.
Too much conservatism will sink you. Just like too much liberalism destroyed Green France and Spain.
Its never black and white. There are after all 50 shades of grey
Bullshit! The biggest change in American economic polices ever occurred in the late 30s and early 40s. And it was DISTINCTLY not conservative. It was, in fact, about as socialist as American economics has ever been. That is what made the US an economic powerhouse. This is completely separate from our military prowess. Remember that Eisenhower may have been a military guy, but he also believed in socialist ideals like building a government funded highway system.
Back then building highways was a "liberal" policy. Today it's just common sense from both sides. Plus, highways were a concept from from the 1900s that was first implemented and proven to be effective by Hitler. Eisenhower copied Germny on that one.
Perhaps the 1930s and late 40s were liberal. But it didn't take long before the conservative point of view took over. It also coincides with the thriving boomers of the 70s up to the late 90s
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21829050 - 06/19/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Is that why there's a study linking conservatism directly to low IQ published in a renowned health journal?
I have said previously in the thread that there are exceptions. Some conservatives are just that way because they don't like higher taxes... but that isn't what conservatism is. The party as a collective whole does not support minorities, women, and they get their ideas from the christian bible. You can't deny that, I have already linked several pages proving it in this thread.
Also, if they aren't discriminatory (which several conservatives in this thread said they weren't), then why do you despise poor people so much? They are people too. I even got zappa to confirm that he discriminates against poor people after people said that isn't what the party is about, which is just wrong.
Stop trying to fool yourself. Conservatism is nothing but discrimination against people with ideas outside of their own.
That is why they are
-Against abortion
-Hate poor
-Hate other races/ethnicities
-Hate women
-Hate liberals
It is funny because they see all of those people as liberals. That is why they hate them so much.
See, since I am a liberal, I don't care what you believe. Sure, I will argue what I know with what you believe, but I won't think less of you if you are conservative. It goes against my ideology. Conservatives on the other hand openly HATE liberals. That is because that is what they are all about. It is all just hate hate hate....
If you don't support conservative ideas like anti gay, anti abortion, anti women, anti government, etc then you AREN'T fully conservative. If you disagree with MOST of those, which it seems like most conservatives in this thread do, then you are LIBERAL with some conservative ideas, which I would consider myself to reside in that category.
Is there really, buddy? How about you link that "study?" Or maybe you're thinking of the PEW research poll that found the republicans are on average smart and more informed than democrats. The tea-party actually scored the highest, LOL.
I have already linked it but I will link it again
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206.abstract
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21829059 - 06/19/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: After WWII, there was a massive economic boom in the united states because we could use all of the materials and resources used during the war in our own country. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of soldiers came home to fill jobs
Also because the rest of the world was destroyed. That might have had something to do with it. We were the only industrial nation left standing.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Patlal]
#21829066 - 06/19/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eisenhower was against tax cuts and he reduced military spending. So... He is what you would call a RINO. Republican in name only. The fact is, the US retained most of FDR's liberal economic policies because they work.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21829076 - 06/19/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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We rebuilt Europe and now they would cut our throats in a second if they could make a buck on it. Gratitude lasts until the final check comes then its "what have you done for me lately?"
Gotta got disproven on his feeble links, now all he has is name calling. We have to expect that sort of thing, rational discussion is a conservative ability and a liberal weakness.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: koods]
#21829086 - 06/19/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Eisenhower was against tax cuts and he reduced military spending. So... He is what you would call a RINO. Republican in name only. The fact is, the US retained most of FDR's liberal economic policies because they work.
And JFK cut taxes Democrat in name only. We retained his policies because once on the tit you need the tit. Social security is the worst policy ever but because so much money was stolen and misappropriated we are fucked.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Stonehenge]
#21829092 - 06/19/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: We rebuilt Europe and now they would cut our throats in a second if they could make a buck on it. Gratitude lasts until the final check comes then its "what have you done for me lately?"
Gotta got disproven on his feeble links, now all he has is name calling. We have to expect that sort of thing, rational discussion is a conservative ability and a liberal weakness.
This is 100% correct. Those ungrateful whores should an American's cock every day.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21829105 - 06/19/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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what's this, zappaisgod actually agreed on something??..
this is a historic event
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Stonehenge]
#21829113 - 06/19/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol thats funny because any time i hear "conservatives" talk its always so like, cartoony and fake i can't tell if its just trolling.
In my mind, there is no such thing as conservatives. All rational people want to like, reduce waste and give people free will and be responsible with money. Conservative politics or whatever seems to be soley concerned with creating an imaginary dichotomy so individuals can attach their personal unpopular opinions to a universal platform.
Like "reduce spending! the europeans would slit our throat!". No shit reduce spending everyone wants to reduce spending, wait whats that second part?
Liberals are the people that are dumb enough to argue with trolls advancing bizarre and unpopular opinions.
No one in real politics even cares about any of that shit,people just vote for the person they think will fuck them over less and who isn't crazy and politicians just care about business and making powerful connections because they're psychopaths.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: teamkiller]
#21829120 - 06/19/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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true liberals dont even bother arguing
look at me, talking like im a liberal.
fuck liberals. and fuck conservatives.
fuck all these phonie people
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: teamkiller]
#21829140 - 06/19/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see the usual liberal "argument' which is just name calling. That is the only thing they do well. If you try to discuss economics they get flustered and fall apart. If you discuss politics, all they know to say is "its the conservatives fault"
When fools dictate prices, supply dries up. We've seen this over and over. They try to dictate wages and jobs go overseas.
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Stonehenge]
#21829153 - 06/19/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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so u;re a conservative ey? 
always assuming u;re correct, typical conservative behavior
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Re: So I googled "why are liberals so stupid" [Re: Stonehenge]
#21829167 - 06/19/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: I see the usual liberal "argument' which is just name calling...
...When fools...
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