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 Baby_Hitler
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 Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? 
#2182318 - 12/16/03 11:40 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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...or psilocine, or Baetocystine or whatever?
Is it possible to isolate a clone that you could grow a pound of dry mushrooms, and eat them, and not get off?
Has anyone ever eaten mushrooms that they grew and not been able to get off on them?
Anecdotes are welcome.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182346 - 12/16/03 11:47 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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To what end would this be desireable?
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Vertigo]
#2182356 - 12/16/03 11:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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We all waste time in our own ways! I think that would be cool, cos you could sell yer shrooms to the organic market!
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Vertigo]
#2182423 - 12/16/03 12:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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On account of the benificial phytoglygic malookolo cydes present in cubensis.
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Vertigo
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182436 - 12/16/03 12:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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??????
I'm assuming you didn't make that up so what is it?
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Vertigo]
#2182440 - 12/16/03 12:22 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really?
Um... it's good for your hair.
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Vertigo
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182444 - 12/16/03 12:24 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's what I thought.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Vertigo]
#2182449 - 12/16/03 12:27 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously. I'm going to make shampoo out of it. 
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Vertigo
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182473 - 12/16/03 12:42 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does it provide conditioning in that same bottle for the soft manageable hair one always wants? 
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182481 - 12/16/03 12:43 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, the mushroom isnt illegal, its what is in it that is illegal.
u could grow pounds and pounds of them, and they wouldnt find any psychoactives, so they aint got shit on you. You could sell em and not get busted for shit, cuz there aint nothing illegal about em. Could rip off your enemies with no worry of them being a cop, cuz even if they were, ahahah WTF THEY GONNA DO ABOUT IT!?
hmm good idea, im sure its possible.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2182671 - 12/16/03 01:39 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Baby_Hitler said:
Really?
Um... it's good for your hair.
so is a little spunk.
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Granola
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: ]
#2182678 - 12/16/03 01:41 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kottonmouth said:
You could sell em and not get busted for shit, cuz there aint nothing illegal about em. Could rip off your enemies with no worry of them being a cop, cuz even if they were, ahahah WTF THEY GONNA DO ABOUT IT!?
actualy there have been alot of people busted for selling fake drugs to cops, the penalty is the same.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Granola]
#2182695 - 12/16/03 01:47 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would be dumb... they dont even taste good to eat... its like if you want something wihtout fuck you up effects, grow something edible. 
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: haz]
#2182861 - 12/16/03 02:57 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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he could use impotent shrooms to test potency teks, he could add phalaris bark to the substrate and get only DMT related chemicals.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Fcuerkt]
#2182891 - 12/16/03 03:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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This isn't about producing psilocybin.
It's about hair care products.
"Gee your hair smellz liek b00MerZ" will take the cosmetic world by storm.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2183035 - 12/16/03 03:39 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does all the indole alkaloids produced in a psilocybe come from the tryptamine precursors in the growth medium? If so, use a growth medium which lacks them. Or find some method of denaturing the target alkaloids.
mycomancer
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Granola]
#2183090 - 12/16/03 03:50 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
actualy there have been alot of people busted for selling fake drugs to cops, the penalty is the same.
i guess your right. but with a good lawyer, that aint shit to get out of.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2183117 - 12/16/03 03:58 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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this would be kind of like the weed they sell in high time magazines without thc so its legal. personally, i don't see the point in either
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin [Re: Mycomancer]
#2183141 - 12/16/03 04:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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The substrate most likely does not contain Indoles, if it did then all know substrates for psilo cultivation would contain Indoles also. They can fruit from agar, and theres only a few ingredients in that so I highly doubt there is an Indole-less substrate out there.
You would need to effectively change the mushroom genetics, by selective breeding or by mutation, both of which would require a long time for experimentation.
Seeing how some Indoles are known for there anti-mutagenic qualities (e.g. sunscreen, anti-cancer to us, antioxidants, etc...) I believe that psilocybin and psilocin are protective chemicals that the mushrooms produce for themselves, leading me to believe that this trait could not be easily removed.
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Re: Is it possible to grow a cubensis that has NO psilocybin? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2183183 - 12/16/03 04:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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In canada everything except DRIED mushrooms ARE LEGAL, so theres your research country.
home sweet home
oh and LEGAL OR NOT........growers of PSILOCYBIN containing mushrooms WILL develop NEW ideas and TEKS with or without legal status, so a psilocybin free mushroom seem pointless, also it might not be good for the mushroom as psilocybin is part of the mushrooms development.
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