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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: art2312]
    #21835928 - 06/21/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well hes had some gall bladder pain, or what Im pretty sure is gallbladder pain. Pain under the left shoulder blade the night he ate the mushrooms about six hours after for about five minutes. Then last night or two nights later had it again for about ten to fifteen minutes he was uncomfortable. My GF woke up this morning and her pee was darker than normal for her. However I saw it and her pee wasnt that dark, Ive peed way darker but I stay dehydrated. Also shes having a little kidney pain, shes had worse before. We chauked it up to dehydration from liquid pee diareah. Thank you for  your concern! :smile:


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21836590 - 06/21/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So these things grow like wildfire on only dead hardwood. Do these all look the same. I cant tell if the gills are attatched or not. Hard to see the florescent stuff though I can well. In the one pic where I crushed the stem  its started to stain black.





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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21836799 - 06/21/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hold a good White LED light to the black stain.
When I completely dried my Gym Luteus, they were black, but when I shined a white light to them, it was reflecting clearly a dark Indigo Blue.

Thats IME, if it doesnt reflect any Blue under white light then its not Psilocin staining, its something else, and idk what.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21836845 - 06/21/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im worried about them hosting a secondary mold. Dont eat these if you ever come across them.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21838293 - 06/21/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)


it looks like you have some Tricholomopsis decora or a similar species mixed in there


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #21838855 - 06/21/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Could be but I cannot tell a damn difference by eye.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21838883 - 06/21/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My gf is experiencing some neurological shit paramethsis or whatever today. Prickily sensation and dissociation symptoms today...


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #21839386 - 06/21/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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XXfuzyxgamingXX said:

it looks like you have some Tricholomopsis decora or a similar species mixed in there






They could all be Gymnopilus - Check the spore print colors.


The longer term symptoms OP is describing don't really sound like mushroom poisoning.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21840083 - 06/22/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have you checked out this research: Neurotoxic oligoisoprenoids of the hallucinogenic mushroom, Gymnopilus spectabilis?

I can't access the article. Is there anything to this?


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: o8u] * 1
    #21841071 - 06/22/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It looks like the article is talking about gymnopilin having depolarising effects on rat ganglia. The articles I can find are all fairly preliminary studies working with rat cells in vitro (for the most part). It's not really possible to make any meaningful inferences from these studies on human physiology.

It's hard to say whether these symptoms were due to toxins in the mushrooms, a contaminant, or an unrelated illness (with coincidental timing). Perhaps it was food poisoning from a bacterial or viral contaminant of the mushrooms. Paraesthesia and mild dissociative symptoms could be caused by dehydration (as a result of the diarrhoea) or a viral illness.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21841164 - 06/22/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

true, its kindof hard to tell


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: TimmiT]
    #21841194 - 06/22/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so gymnopilin is real? i just googled it and got some results. it looks like there is some interaction with it and the mammalian nervous system. OP says he "ate 15 of the mushroom" which is a very large dose, it wouldnt surprise me if the amount he took contained enough of it to produce some sort of physical side effect. but the black in his photos looks like mold or bacteria imo so i dont know


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX] * 1
    #21841266 - 06/22/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Real as in does it exist or is it toxic? Gymnopilin is a chemical found in Gymnopilus but there's no evidence to suggest that it has any physiological effects in humans. There are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of compounds in those mushrooms that would show some biological activity in vitro. That doesn't necessarily suggest they have any effects on people ingesting the mushrooms.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: TimmiT]
    #21841415 - 06/22/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dont know anything on gymnopilin but she is still getting waves of prickly pin needles even this morning. The other guy said he got them but upon waking up he said he felt out of body. He seems to be doing ok. Symptoms following dosing the mushrooms were Two and a half to four hours after horrid liquid diarreah resulting in one of them becoming dehydrated. Gf experienced kidney pain and decreased urine output around 20 hours later with some kidney pain. Friend experienced pain behind around left shoulder which sounds like upset gallbladder 30 hours plus. Gf started peeing normal after 35 hours later or so. 50hrs plus and upon waking in the morning she had darker urine than is normal for her. Not very dark though, someone who stays dehydrated like me pees darker on average. Then 70hrs later she exhibits sweating and the the prickly sensations start, she also has been getting light headed while in the shower and upon standing up. Maybe anemia? Idk. Also about 60 hrs in she.said something felt like it was alive in her abdomen or intestine and it was twitching. Im fairly certain this went away as she did not complain about it after a couple hours. She is a redhead and is tougher when it comes to pain than most men. She doesnt get paranoid or scared easily. Shes been stabbed five times by a psychotic personn been through chemo and has been living a couple years with a gallbladder that has many stones and three months ago a tumor was discovered on one of her ovaries. She just wont go to the hospital. All of the symptoms shes had are new to her. Shes felt like shes been in a daze the passed few days but that maybe because of dehydration. Shes anemic. She has stomach ulcers that flare from time to time.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: TimmiT]
    #21841459 - 06/22/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I thought gymnopilin was a myth until now.

I know there is no solid evidence and indigenous kava drinkers are completely healthy, but im going to quote drugsforum "Three possible mechanisms for kavalactone hepatotoxicity are known: inhibition of cytochrome P450, reduction in liver glutathione content and, more remotely, inhibition of cyclooxygenase enzyme activity."  it doesnt seem like there is a lot to suggest it can actually be toxic, but it is possible. im referring to bis-noryangonin and hispidine which are structurally similar to kava and occur in gyms.

If op ate 15 large gyms he could have taken a hefty dose of it and maybe experienced some side effects. again i know there is no real evidence to suggest its toxic, its just interesting.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21841465 - 06/22/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so wait, there's not just one idiot that ate random unidentified mushrooms. There's two in this thread!??!?!
Woooooooahhhhh man this is too much for me
And it looks like this hobby is too much for you fellas

There's always bird watching


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: Walts]
    #21841479 - 06/22/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I was going to look for gyms this year....now I'm not. Thankfully I have several jars full of dried ovoids......
Fuck these things....


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: SatanicShroomer]
    #21841508 - 06/22/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No it was a friend of mine that talked my gf into trying them while she was coming down from a psilocybin cubensis trip. I was not around and got a suprise when I got back home all the mushrooms were gone. I was going to throw them away but I did not in hopes I could have them 100percent ID'd. I told him not to eat them until we knew what they were. He didnt listen. Yeah we have found spectabilis in the woods before and a few others and she ate 500 grams fresh and loved it. Dont fuck with these things. Somethings not right about them. I still think its a secondary mold.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21841559 - 06/22/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"She...has been living a couple years with a gallbladder that has many stones and three months ago a tumor was discovered on one of her ovaries. She just wont go to the hospital."

W.    T.    F.


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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: relic]
    #21841577 - 06/22/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah!

Dude, you're lucky your friend didn't kill your gf by feedback ng her unidentified mushrooms. You might want to reconsider being his friend.


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