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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21831579 - 06/20/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It does look like Gymnopilus liquiritae. But there are a lot of species which look like that.
I have never heard of a toxic gymnopilus before, since two people were affected and there was burning, I guess you did discover one.
Do they burn at all when you chew on them fresh or dried?
I don't think that you need medical attention, it seems that you ingested a gastrointestinal irritant and not amatoxins. Amatoxins wouldn't burn, and it would take a lot longer to start feeling sick.
When mushroom poisoning kicks in 1 - 2 hours after consumption, you probably won't need medical attention. It's the mushroom poisoning that kicks in 6 - 12 hours later that can be life threatening.
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Maybe these mushrooms were infected with parasites/bacteria or mold of some sorts? I have had Gym Luteus that had maggots crawling through them (they were lil pins), I still ate them motherfuckers though.
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if you look in the first picture it almost looks like theres a purple shade to the caps, could be bacteria for sure.
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it occurs to me that gyms seem like a good candidate for tea if not just for the bulk amounts needed if consumed whole, and you kill a bunch of the above in the process
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I agree with RuralAnomaly. Once upon a time I happened to cross paths with a nice patch of big laughing gyms.
After getting them I.D'ed *ahem* me and a friend made some bitter tea and laughed at dual survival all night.
Please for the sake of harm reduction, make sure of what you have before you consume!
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: drum of rum]
#21832246 - 06/20/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I noticed a slight itch and burn feeling iin the back of my throat after eating the 15 or so mushroom. Diahrea set in about two and a half hours. The gills and or spores glow florescent under uv. the rest of the mushroom does not. They were extremely bitter. I did for more than an hour feel enlightened maybe a possible buzz about four hours in. Nothing to write home about. They stain black qhen mutillated. Some gills were attatched some were not and that kindof worries me. Maybe two lookalikes?
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832307 - 06/20/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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gizmo420 said: I noticed a slight itch and burn feeling iin the back of my throat after eating the 15 or so mushroom. Diahrea set in about two and a half hours. The gills and or spores glow florescent under uv. the rest of the mushroom does not. They were extremely bitter. I did for more than an hour feel enlightened maybe a possible buzz about four hours in. Nothing to write home about. They stain black qhen mutillated. Some gills were attatched some were not and that kindof worries me. Maybe two lookalikes?
were your pupils dilated?
some gills being attached and others not is some strange morphology bro
and by morphology i mean it sounds like you had a mixed bag
im not aware of any gyms that bruise black, they bruise brown, green, or blue..
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This thread makes my brain's anus burn
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gizmo420
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If they were it was only.slightly. All of these definitly bruised black. I want to.say that we may haave picked a specimen that dropped yellow rusty spores allthe others were brown rustt spores.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832354 - 06/20/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everything you've posted is consistent with Gymnopilus, including the UV fluorescence. I don't think you're in any danger.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: o8u]
#21832360 - 06/20/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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o8u said: Everything you've posted is consistent with Gymnopilus, including the UV fluorescence. I don't think you're in any danger.
would the fluorescence persist after drying? im not doubting what you're saying but since when do gyms bruise black?
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gizmo420
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Yes even the dried specimens gills and or spores are florescent. They definitly without a shadow of a doubt stain brown at first going to black within minutes. They musr be the first poisonous gymnopilus.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832386 - 06/20/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I found a dry specimen that had black staining near the base. I can post a pic of it. Problem is this phone has a shitty camera.
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o8u
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Yep they still fluoresce after drying. Do you have pics of the black bruising?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832428 - 06/20/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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gizmo420 said: I noticed a slight itch and burn feeling iin the back of my throat after eating the 15 or so mushroom. Diahrea set in about two and a half hours. The gills and or spores glow florescent under uv. the rest of the mushroom does not. They were extremely bitter. I did for more than an hour feel enlightened maybe a possible buzz about four hours in. Nothing to write home about. They stain black qhen mutillated. Some gills were attatched some were not and that kindof worries me. Maybe two lookalikes?
Gymnopilus gills glow bright yellow under UV.
If some of the gills were not attached, my guess is that is because they were handled roughly and the gills broke away from the stem.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832439 - 06/20/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832447 - 06/20/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now as speculation has it. There maybe two different but nearly identical species here. The others did not grow and bruise when dry mostly because we picked them fresh. but cut or mash one and they turn black.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: gizmo420]
#21832479 - 06/20/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe they were improperly dried/stored... I cant remember seeing any reports of Gymns giving any sort of GI troubles like that... or maybe you guys ate something before?
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: art2312]
#21832515 - 06/20/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats a sundried specimen they were fan dried in open air like the cubes we picked. Eating something before shouldnt make you piss out of your ass like a super soaker 15-20 times in 10 hours.
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Re: do i have any good gyms? [Re: BoomBoom]
#21833685 - 06/20/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was just saying like a coincidence. I ate some chicken from a restaurant two weeks ago, then like 40mins later started throwing up like crazy! Got dehydrated after a few hours and had to go to the er. They thought it was food poisoning from the chicken until the doc saw the test results. It was a viral thing and the chicken had nothing to do with it... just bad timing. I was just saying, maybe that the same case? I see oxidation in a couple... How's op feeling?
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