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firstTIMER420
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Questions on Mescaline Dosage
#21822497 - 06/18/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey all, I recently completed my alcohol extraction of 39" of Peruvian Torch, and have never done mescaline before so I was wondering how much I would need to do to get STRONG visuals.
Unfortunately, I only received about 12 grams of tar from the extraction, and ive been reading youd need at least 35-50g(powder from a/b) to produce any results. I still have 1 1/2 jars left to evap from the 3 and 4th pulls but its much lighter green than the first 3, so im guessing nt much left.
Most of the dosage guidelines ive read were for powder, done as the result of an a/b extraction, but ive just done an alc extraction(using %99) so im wondering what the dosage for that would be, thanks for any answers.
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ChiefSS
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12g is enough for 1 trip.
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: ChiefSS]
#21822776 - 06/18/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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strong visuals?
never done mescaline but am well versed on psychedelics so I wanna ensure that I trip, HARD.
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3 feet of T.peruvianus is a lot, isn't it?
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firstTIMER420
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: Pandemoon]
#21824231 - 06/18/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, from what I read it only takes about 12-16 inches for a trip. That's why I was wondering if the amount I got from the extraction seemed low to anyone. I went with a lot of the plant to assure that id have enough, but still seems like the yield I got was low.
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firstTIMER420 said: ...ive been reading youd need at least 35-50g(powder from a/b) to produce any results...
35-50g from an a/b extraction would kill you. Pure mescaline is active in the 200mg range.
I had a hard trip from 30g of dried and powdered achuma that was then made into a tea.
I think you could probably trip decent off of 6-8 g of tar.
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firstTIMER420 said: strong visuals?
never done mescaline but am well versed on psychedelics so I wanna ensure that I trip, HARD.
I think you're going about this slightly wrong. First of all, if you are after visuals why did you do an extraction? The other alkaloids in the cactus which you threw out, contribute to the visual experience. You should just make cactus tea, then you get the proper chemical profile and its a lot easier too.
Second, if you want strong visuals I dont think mescaline is the right drug. High doses of mescaline can be quite overwhelming/uncomfortable in not such a good way while still being less visual than a good dose of LSD/shrooms. In my opinion, for visuals or high dose exploration you should use shrooms or DMT, not mescaline. I would suggest taking a moderate dose of mescaline for your first time to get accustomed to the experience. Not saying you couldnt handle a high dose, only that I actually think lower doses can be better with this plant (wheres shrooms, I am all for taking heroic doses).
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: Deviate]
#21824869 - 06/18/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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People seem confused about that you didn't extract to a more pure mescaline or a compound of mescaline, kept it to a tar... So it's all a bit of a guess...
No way to know exact potency of your cactus or how well it extracted but assume a 12-18 inch section would be a good dose and ratio what you have to that... (I.e., 1/2-1/3 of your total would be good)
Could always try a sample trip... Do like 8-10'gm to check potency
I would say that if you followed the tek correct... 15-20 gm should be pretty strong but could try 10-15 gm and see how that feels and bump it at the 45 min point with 5-10 gm more if you want
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: HarryL]
#21825213 - 06/18/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh sorry, my bad didn't realize it wasn't a more pure extraction. in that case i endorse what the above poster is saying, do a test dose.
otherwise you have no way to tell how potent your cactus is. i have had some cactus that was 3x more potent than other cactus. with that big of a variation, there is simply no way you can safely determine what a strong dose would be without risking drastically overshooting it. a test dose will also help you understand what mescaline is like, which should give you a better experience when you do dose high. it is a general rule of drug use, to not take an enormous dose of a drug you have never tried before and don't know the potency of.
remember what terrence mckenna said:
"there are old shaman and there are bold shaman but there are no old bold shaman".
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21825446 - 06/18/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thank you, I thought I typed mg so yea.
6-8mg? ill give it a go, and if not feeling anything in a mag of 2 hours, ill throw a little bit more in there. I would like to have some left over for another time, and I also have a 12" section currently growing right now, in a year or two who knows maybe ill have enough for another trip. I like to space it out because I tend to overdo shit(that's why im an addict) when it comes to drugs. My last shroom trip was relly intense, and it was too much, next time, im sticking to 4 grams dried, took 6 last time, and like I said it was intense.
Like I said before, I hope I have enough to trip, since its the first time ive bought cactus, let alone from that source, I don't know the potency.
also, I did an a/b extraction for DMT but ended up with the goo, which I was told is awesome, unfortunately I did not have a proper smoking utensil so I didn't breakthrough, and it felt dirty(headache after, which has NEVER happened after vaping dmt). Im going to try it again, using earthwalkers tek, its tailored specifically for ACRB, which is what I currently have.
thanks for the info/advice guys, but 1 last question
on average, how long has your mesc trips lasted?
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6-8 grams, should feel awesome for 8 hours with a glow lasting maybe another 4.
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: WindWisperer]
#21826035 - 06/18/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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awesome...WITH visuals? that's pretty much the main point for me 
also, i have 2 more pulls drying now, i don't expect much more from them, but itd be nice to have a few more grams to play around with.
Even though i shouldn't, ill start with 8g, and take it from there.
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Yes you should get visuals, not as intense as other Psychs though, but very awesome nonetheless! I can't be for sure since I haven't done a tar extraction before, but the guesstimated weights add up about right, you should be fine with 8g.
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: WindWisperer]
#21826164 - 06/18/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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knowing myself, ill probably end up popping all of it. I threw it into caps, 19 in all, a bit much but i stuffed most of em full, i was wondering if ill have a problem with all the gelatin. what you think?
also, what extractions have you done?
I would LOVE to do some REAL acid, ive only done shit that people told me was acid, and i know for sure it wasn't(RC's) shit just doesn't come around anymore
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when i did my alcohol extract 10g was a good does had us tripping all night. Now that ive done the vinegar extract on that tar im thinking maybe 6-8g should be good.
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: ChiefSS]
#21828497 - 06/19/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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vinegar extract?
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firstTIMER420 said: thank you, I thought I typed mg so yea.
6-8mg? ill give it a go, and if not feeling anything in a mag of 2 hours, ill throw a little bit more in there. I would like to have some left over for another time, and I also have a 12" section currently growing right now, in a year or two who knows maybe ill have enough for another trip. I like to space it out because I tend to overdo shit(that's why im an addict) when it comes to drugs. My last shroom trip was relly intense, and it was too much, next time, im sticking to 4 grams dried, took 6 last time, and like I said it was intense.
Like I said before, I hope I have enough to trip, since its the first time ive bought cactus, let alone from that source, I don't know the potency.
also, I did an a/b extraction for DMT but ended up with the goo, which I was told is awesome, unfortunately I did not have a proper smoking utensil so I didn't breakthrough, and it felt dirty(headache after, which has NEVER happened after vaping dmt). Im going to try it again, using earthwalkers tek, its tailored specifically for ACRB, which is what I currently have.
thanks for the info/advice guys, but 1 last question
on average, how long has your mesc trips lasted?
My last cactus trip lasted 17 hours and I don't mean 17 hours from start to total sobriety, I mean I was tripping for 17 hours not including additional after effects which lasted through the next day.
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firstTIMER420 said: knowing myself, ill probably end up popping all of it. I threw it into caps, 19 in all, a bit much but i stuffed most of em full, i was wondering if ill have a problem with all the gelatin. what you think?
also, what extractions have you done?
I would LOVE to do some REAL acid, ive only done shit that people told me was acid, and i know for sure it wasn't(RC's) shit just doesn't come around anymore 
What do you mean? There is as much if not more LSD around now as any time in history perhaps save when it was legal in the 60s. Go to any big hippie music festival, you will find acid in no time. But mescaline is so much better anyway.
Oh and if you want visuals on mescaline, eat some weed edibles with it.
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Re: Questions on Mescaline Dosage [Re: Deviate]
#21829108 - 06/19/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cant do any thc so not really an option, either way, it should be good.
Not many concerts where I live, but ill give it a look. not really willing to travel to another state on the hopes I find cid.
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