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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21832532 - 06/20/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Also, every week? Tolerance will come into play if you dose every week. Slow it down man.




I did slow it down. And I would alternate - shrooms, lsd, shrooms, and it was a week at MOST. I found that my tolerance DID go down enough for me to enjoy my next trip

If you read previous posts, you would know my concern is that now that I am spacing it out a lot more, I'm not tripping as hard


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21832539 - 06/20/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Idk....

Ive tripped twice in the past month and a half. I just finished tripping an hour or so ago

I don't really have any cool experiences, I have to make my own and I often feel like I waste the trip doing stupid shit. I experiment a lot when I'm tripping and I guess if I don't find anything new or if I get too distracted it feels like a waste

But I feel like if I shouldn't have to take 7.5 grams to be disappointed

Like I have to take 10+ tabs to actually enjoy the experience, and at that point I'm spending a lot of money and its really hard to even find that quantity



But my dilema is that I don't know enough and my mind isn't psychoactivated enough yet





So I'm not tripping in sobriety and I'm not tripping hard when I take drugs

I just wanna we overwhelmed by the psychadelic - for it to show me something new. But I feel like I've killed the magic but understanding it too well




(by the way, what do you call the stuff that makes patterns in the darkness while youre tripping? It almost looks like vibrating static.... I hope you know what I mean because all I gained from that trip was being able to describe this static finally)



the worst part is it doesn't even feel like it lasts long enough




Get better drugs. You shouldn't need a 10 strip to have an intense experience. 2 hits of this WoW I have will send you into hyperspace.





...is there a way I can stop you people asking the same question?

No, the drugs aren't the problem. Two tabs would send my pal into hyperspace while I would take 5 and be like "its alright"

If you wanna assume that 4 pages into a fourm that the OP didn't even consider that he might just have bad shit - then maybe look back through the fourm. Because like 10 other people asked it and that question has been resolved.


now if you have anything positive to add - giving me the benefit of the doubt that I am a reasonably experienced and knowledgeable tripper, I would appreciate it.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee] * 1
    #21832544 - 06/20/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't take psychedelics for a year and then eat a ten strip. :shrug:

Or eat a quarter of mushrooms on an empty stomach.

I'm not really sure what you want people to tell you besides stop tripping so often.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21832547 - 06/20/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sometimes the answer is the one we least want to hear, i.e. take a long break

LSD gives tolerance if you do it every week in high doses, that's why it doesn't work for you

you need a months break to be able to trip again

LSD every week in high doses also changes our thoughts long term, for weeks, months usually, we become 'weird' - especially high doses do this usually. The tripper might be so deluded by his thoughts that the tripper cannot see it himself that he is abusing the LSD and acting crazy, but everyone else in the channel,board,public can see it easily.

(c) the experienced tripper?:wink:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore] * 3
    #21832557 - 06/20/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And alternating LSD and mushrooms doesn't help towards reducing your tolerance as they act on similar receptors and have cross tolerance.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #21832569 - 06/20/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I really don't understand how people trip so often anyways. I trip maybe 4-5 times a year on average. I feel like I need at least one month minimum for my mind to bounce back and integrate what the fuck just happened to me. It's like MDMA or anything else you abuse, eventually its gonna lose the magic. Then you're just stuck with a 12 hour experience (LSD)  that you wanna stop halfway through. What fun is that?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21833672 - 06/20/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If I recall correctly, LSD isn't metabolized by monoamine oxidase, so MAOIs like syrian rue or B. caapi won't potentiate an acid trip. They work great for mushrooms, though. Just start off with a low dose to get a feel for it first.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Starless]
    #21834869 - 06/21/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This whole convo is like two people arguing about the price of some fish, only one of them thinks they're buying tomatoes. :wink:

Give the guy a break!  His problem isn't frequency or bad drugs, it's that he has high tolerance, plain and simple.  It happens.  There've been dozens of threads here exactly the same problem over the last few years.

OP requires a lot to get off, like having massive tolerance even with no drugs done at all.  How would y'all like that?  Everybody's different, all it is.  :deepman:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21835315 - 06/21/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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This whole convo is like two people arguing about the price of some fish, only one of them thinks they're buying tomatoes. :wink:

Give the guy a break!  His problem isn't frequency or bad drugs, it's that he has high tolerance, plain and simple.  It happens.  There've been dozens of threads here exactly the same problem over the last few years.

OP requires a lot to get off, like having massive tolerance even with no drugs done at all.  How would y'all like that?  Everybody's different, all it is.  :deepman:





Thanks :smile:


to respond to everyone else before him


I didnt eat for 4 days before the trip

3 months ago i tripped weekly, the past 3 months has been 2 real trips and one fake trip. I HAVE spread out my time and am NOW getting less effects. If it has to do with a built tolerance, why didn't I have tolerance for the 6 months I took them weekly?

I am aware that some people get deluded. Because of this I constantly ask trusted people for honest assessments, if anything most think I'm rising above my peers in terms of maturity and empathy. Coming from them, not me.

If I was stuck with a 12 hour trip - fuck yeah I'd be down. But I barely trip for a few hours (at least the past few times I've tripped) and it's not been worth it! Its not like its the same thing but less magical, its a less intense experience - and since I cant find a deal where I can get close to breaking even - and at the same time I'm not tripping as hard - idk what to do!

Im trying to learn to trip while sober, in simple words. However, my dreams are becoming more realistic, and my trips are becoming less intense

I was trying to break this reality but somehow I grounded more of myself in it




Is is possible that if I learn to master reality in my dreams it would be easier to transfer dream-ability to this reality - but that's to be seen.

I'm just worried and am looking for some advice













What ever more worrying is that NO ONE has ANY experience with the type of static I see while tripping. It was impossible to describe for so long, and now no one has ever experienced (or noticed) it


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21835383 - 06/21/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I always thought I'd be seeing many more crisp hallucinations on LSD.
Never happened.

Take ketamine or 3rd, 4th plateau DXM for hallucination city.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21836921 - 06/21/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I always thought I'd be seeing many more crisp hallucinations on LSD.
Never happened.

Take ketamine or 3rd, 4th plateau DXM for hallucination city.





Ketamine makes you hallucinate??

Uma get DXM soon - any OTC recommendations?

Yeah before I took psychedelics I thought u actually hallucinate - my teachers lied to me and set me up for disappointment. Once I realized they don't make you hallucinate tho I was no longer scared of them ahah (stupid ass teachers)

I hallucinated on DMT too


But I'm not even looking for hallucinations. I'm just looking for movement, fractals, color change, new experienced, intensity, and longevity. I would LOVE to have a trippy experience that takes me away from this reality - but the more i want it the less I'm able to experience it




It's interesting - it seems that all with spiritual power are dead set against proving their power and showing it off. Almost like humbleness and empathy are really the keys to unlocking this power. Things like greed and self-elevation likely prevent the progress or ability of these "powers"


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21837422 - 06/21/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



this will help you hallucinate

btw LSD is a nice molecule, it stops working when it has taught you, then no more lessons usually and no more visuals


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21837530 - 06/21/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not sure what 'powers' you mean, but try kundalini yoga mediation and dissociatives.

Meditation / astral projection really works but takes an almost inhuman amount of concentration.
That's where the speedy tail of DXM comes in. Amazing.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21837782 - 06/21/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I do know what you're talking about when you start to see patterns in a dark room. I've had trips that seemed pretty weak/done until I decide to do to bed.. then suddenly my pitch black room is strobing at me with bright ass geometric rainbow lights n shit. I think you just notice how stimulated your mind is when you take away your vision. Seems counter intuitive.

But I feel you man


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: BobaJones]
    #21839204 - 06/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I do know what you're talking about when you start to see patterns in a dark room. I've had trips that seemed pretty weak/done until I decide to do to bed.. then suddenly my pitch black room is strobing at me with bright ass geometric rainbow lights n shit. I think you just notice how stimulated your mind is when you take away your vision. Seems counter intuitive.

But I feel you man





Can you do me a huge favor? Next time you trip - try to be aware of what you once saw - and let me know if it's always there or not. I went a long time without noticing what the patterns were and it took me even longer to be able to learn to describe it - so others might have to go through something similar.


I really just want to know if anyone else actually experiences the same thing - if trips are that wildly different then my mind is blown


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21839227 - 06/21/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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this will help you hallucinate

btw LSD is a nice molecule, it stops working when it has taught you, then no more lessons usually and no more visuals




I thought a little about LSD teaching me all it can.

That would mean that when I achieved an ultimate fractal and made myself hallucinate different rooms and objects - I learned everything, because thats the last real trip I had.


But I still need to learn more so I can incorporate those "powers" into my reality - and I've still yet to experience any mind/body separation or egodeath....

i mean unless I'm already merged and didn't realize it but I really doubt that


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21839686 - 06/21/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Uhm yes, psychedelics make you hallucinate.  Or at least they can. :shrug:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21839910 - 06/21/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've had hallucinations on mushrooms plenty of times. Melted into mirrors, the walls waving until there is only space behind. I've even had an out of body experience where I was shown how small the earth was in comparison to the universe. Psychs can get a bit wierd.

OP, maybe just take a month or 2 break, learn some stuff, live life. Just relax and then dive back into the psychedelia.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Achillita]
    #21840517 - 06/22/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've had hallucinations on mushrooms plenty of times. Melted into mirrors, the walls waving until there is only space behind. I've even had an out of body experience where I was shown how small the earth was in comparison to the universe. Psychs can get a bit wierd.

OP, maybe just take a month or 2 break, learn some stuff, live life. Just relax and then dive back into the psychedelia.




When I talk about hallucinations I mean seeing something that really isnt there. Not like breaking into a pattern - but more like seeing an object or being.



And again - I just took 2 month long breaks before trips and thats why I'm here


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21840551 - 06/22/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe your source is shit?

Also check your motivation behind wanting to "trip." Seems to me you're doing it because you're bored. I find that psychedelics interact differently with each person. Maybe the psychedelics you're taking think you're boring and don't want to play with you... :P


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