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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21824534 - 06/18/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What could I be repressing that inhibits my trip? I've seemingly worked through most of my issues and am working through the smaller ones right now.




That's where it gets really tricky (if you are) because you never know what it is until it comes up.  And there's no way to know what that might be if it's buried.  Weird shit is weird. :shrug:

It all sounds to me like you just have a high natural tolerance.  So consume more until you get the desired effects.  Everybody's different.  Just experiment, and fuck the negative reactions from the uninitiated. :lol:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21824543 - 06/18/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Or buy a kaleidoscope :heart:





haha if only it were that easy


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21825171 - 06/18/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What could I be repressing that inhibits my trip? I've seemingly worked through most of my issues and am working through the smaller ones right now.




That's where it gets really tricky (if you are) because you never know what it is until it comes up.  And there's no way to know what that might be if it's buried.  Weird shit is weird. :shrug:

It all sounds to me like you just have a high natural tolerance.  So consume more until you get the desired effects.  Everybody's different.  Just experiment, and fuck the negative reactions from the uninitiated. :lol:





As I'm consuming more and spreading out my trips - I'm feeling less intense

And I cant afford to spend $150+ a trip... I just cant


Plus what happens when I get to 20 tabs to trip? $200 minimum per trip - and I dont work right now (schoolin - might get another job once I see my art school work load next year)



My heaviest issues had to do with music and my mom - I've internally resolved that but my mom is stubborn and closed minded - she denies anything ever happened (like she forgot all she did poorly in 5 years) so I can't really get closure. but I've accepted it


If anything the issue I have right now is that I'm not harmonious with my ancestors. Right now, I'm not sure I want to be - it's complex and I feel slight guilt - but will be unlikely that anything changes until I leave. It could - but the effort required and the toxic environments would make it not only difficult but risky. Either way - Im ok with the relationship - sometimes I just slip up and make them feel bad by handling the situation wrong


In practice - I've lost my spiritual "cool," allowing myself to be more dictated by emotion/surroundings. I'm working to reduce this - but regardless I'm more spiritually in-tune than the rest of my friends (sorry for sounding like a dick) and they still trip much harder than me - so I feel like that might not be the issue





I've also never ever had a repressed memory emerge while tripping. I like to think I have a good grip on my mind and knowledge of myself followed by introspection into my repression and darkness of my personality. I feel I know my issues and my state of mind - but as you said - this shit is weird




I might have some deep idea that is impeding true spirituality. Like a deep deep subconscious doubt ( I can identify my less deep subconscious doubts)






My sober trip is still weak, and now my actual trips are getting weaker. I feel like I'm losing touch with trippiness but I've only perceived myself getting closer.



Much to think on


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21825215 - 06/18/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe u should look into taking small amountts of MAOIs with acid/shrooms :shrug:

Do your research on MAOIs cause they can be dangerous if u take too much.

But with a  pinch of it, it can provide a more powerful psychedelic experience :thumbup:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21825224 - 06/18/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe u should look into taking small amountts of MAOIs with acid/shrooms :shrug:

Do your research on MAOIs cause they can be dangerous if u take too much.

But with a  pinch of it, it can provide a more powerful psychedelic experience :thumbup:




It looks like its not over the counter - you know anything that suggests otherwise?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21825237 - 06/18/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Plants have them, B. caapi and Syrian Rue are most common. You can buy them online such as from shroomery vendors i believe (never shopped shroomery vendors, so im not sure)


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21825428 - 06/18/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Plants have them, B. caapi and Syrian Rue are most common. You can buy them online such as from shroomery vendors i believe (never shopped shroomery vendors, so im not sure)




Ok cool thank, Ill look into it :smile:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21825445 - 06/18/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I might have some deep idea that is impeding true spirituality. Like a deep deep subconscious doubt ( I can identify my less deep subconscious doubts)





Re the expense - that's why I said grow mushrooms.  As much as you need, just a bit north of free for the picking.  For that $150 you can be set up, at least ghetto style, but it'll get it done.

And this, ya need to go so deep that everything lays itself out in detail.  IME it's the only way to get free.  Repeat as needed.

It's what Grof was working with - there was always a dosage that opened the doors, even in the face of strong resistance.  And you don't know where the resistance is coming from, just that you're getting better at resisting psychs, somehow. :shrug:


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21825941 - 06/18/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I might have some deep idea that is impeding true spirituality. Like a deep deep subconscious doubt ( I can identify my less deep subconscious doubts)





Re the expense - that's why I said grow mushrooms.  As much as you need, just a bit north of free for the picking.  For that $150 you can be set up, at least ghetto style, but it'll get it done.

And this, ya need to go so deep that everything lays itself out in detail.  IME it's the only way to get free.  Repeat as needed.

It's what Grof was working with - there was always a dosage that opened the doors, even in the face of strong resistance.  And you don't know where the resistance is coming from, just that you're getting better at resisting psychs, somehow. :shrug:





I like LSD a lot more - but I understand the practality.

How much space would I need to be able to ingest 5-10 grams every week or two? I honestly know nothing about growing


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21826067 - 06/18/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you had a monotub, you could get maybe 2-3 ounces dried over a harvest or 2. I personally love growing, the tripping is just a plus now. The amount of space would literally be a small clear plastic tub to grow that much.

Also, harmalas(which are reversible maois) can really extend a mushroom trip. And it also increases the intensity, so you won't have to eat as much to trip. I'm pretty sure it also increases the intensity of LSD, but I'm not 100% sure.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Achillita]
    #21826447 - 06/19/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you had a monotub, you could get maybe 2-3 ounces dried over a harvest or 2. I personally love growing, the tripping is just a plus now. The amount of space would literally be a small clear plastic tub to grow that much.

Also, harmalas(which are reversible maois) can really extend a mushroom trip. And it also increases the intensity, so you won't have to eat as much to trip. I'm pretty sure it also increases the intensity of LSD, but I'm not 100% sure.





Cool! Im likely getting a solo dorm/apartment next year and Im so gonna start growing. Im guessing a harvest is like 3-6 months but Ill learn more and talk to other friends who have grown caps

Ive been unable to find info on how to get moai's legally - do you have any experience getting/extracting it? Or maybe know where I can learn more?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21826455 - 06/19/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you're looking for an effective and cheap maoi, BUy syrian rue seeds. They are super cheap, I paid 5 dollars for 114 grams, that's a lot of maoi.

You can either eat the seeds alone, make tea, or extract it. Syrian rue is pretty heavy in alkaloids. I think like 8-10% of the weight.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Achillita]
    #21826474 - 06/19/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you're looking for an effective and cheap maoi, BUy syrian rue seeds. They are super cheap, I paid 5 dollars for 114 grams, that's a lot of maoi.

You can either eat the seeds alone, make tea, or extract it. Syrian rue is pretty heavy in alkaloids. I think like 8-10% of the weight.




Cool, thanks! Ill probably just eat them - tea makes the trip happen way too fast... I'm all about 8+ hours of visuals - I wanna trip until I'm literally sick of tripping haha

i miss that....

Thanks again!


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Achillita]
    #21826478 - 06/19/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you're looking for an effective and cheap maoi, BUy syrian rue seeds. They are super cheap, I paid 5 dollars for 114 grams, that's a lot of maoi.

You can either eat the seeds alone, make tea, or extract it. Syrian rue is pretty heavy in alkaloids. I think like 8-10% of the weight.





by the way u got an ill sig - you make it or na?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21826507 - 06/19/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sadly no, But I knew the guy who made it! He said  I could use it, I thought it was cool and calming.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21826521 - 06/19/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe u should look into taking small amountts of MAOIs with acid/shrooms :shrug:

Do your research on MAOIs cause they can be dangerous if u take too much.

But with a  pinch of it, it can provide a more powerful psychedelic experience :thumbup:




It looks like its not over the counter - you know anything that suggests otherwise?




Also a very dangerous advice yes
MAOIs can be really dangerous, can kill you easily

But sure if you think it is worth it for a 10% stronger trip, then go ahead


You might not know the alkaloid content, you will have to figure it out by experimenting....


Taking MAOIs is just about as dangerous as taking Nbomes, you may end up drinking some stuff that doesn't mix with MAOI next day and die.

Your body/liver etc. may digest the maoi slower than others, so it lasts next day(s) maybe...

Just take some more shrooms if you really need a stronger trip is my advice, it's not like most people go to a true 5g trip often anyway... a true 5g trip should scare you the hell away from repeating it


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21826536 - 06/19/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, hold up. Maois, at least reversible ones that are in plants, are 100% safe. Harmalines don't effect your gastrointestinal maois that actually digest food. On any dose of Maoi I've taken, I have not fasted but once. The worst thing that happened is my stomach had hurt from the actual rue.

It's best to stay away from those types of foods, just in case, but has proven unnecessary really. And maois almost double the power of a trip IMO.

Now most Maois in medication can be harmful as they are not reversible moais. They stay in your system for up to 3 weeks. But plant maois are very safe, as that's the main basis for ayahuasca(which is a safe hallucinogen)


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21826540 - 06/19/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Grapejuice, that's how easy it is to die on MAOI

and it can also potentiate your shrooms dangerously , a 2.5g trip may feel like a 5g trip I've heard

I once had a shroom trip become really intense(much too intense) after I drank some juice, but not sure if it had grapejuice in it...


The danger is you do not know sometimes if your juice has grapejuice in it, people have died from drinking grapejuice with maoi/shrooms iirc (can't quite remember)

It will potentiate it a lot... and noone knows how much, but likely a 2.5g shrooms would be like 5g shrooms , you would regret lol - and likely last longer than usual too - maybe 12hr trip


If I ever were to take a MAOI for ayahuasca i.e. I would fast the whole week likely, also helps meditation/more spiritual trips when fasting, you just never know next day(s) what may be dangerous to eat


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21826551 - 06/19/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's a reason people weigh their shrooms on a scale, because taking 2gs too much may be bad for the psyche

with a MAOI you will have to do some weeks of very careful experimentation


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21826571 - 06/19/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You still lie in bed awake at 4 am don't you? :lol:

I've always wondered how the psychedelic experience changes with age. Can you describe how it did for you?




I once took too much LSD now I only lay in bed, the public scares me
my words won't come out right
why are you talking to me?
I can't breathe

:-D


But yea, great with some oldtime trippers in here instead of 16year old kids that think they should just take as much as possible anywhere possible
If you don't treat your mind as sacred then you won't get much out of it, if you just think you can do anything on 200ug+ , go anywhere


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