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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21823932 - 06/18/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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OP is on medication or getting really shitty drugs




Im not on medication nor do I only take shitty drugs.

LSD and Shrooms have never overwhelmed me, never made me have a bad trip. The concept of a bad trip was foreign until I took DMT.

Over the past year I would take 5+ tabs average every week or two. I started doing this because 2 tabs never really did anything to me

In fact - MOST drugs have very little effect on me. Benzos only affect me if I take a lot, it took 14 ~5 bowl sessions before I got high, the first two times I took LSD I felt nothing, etc. The first time I take any drug, I don't feel it.

Im getting kind of sick of people assuming I don't know my shit. I've been tripping a while and while I dont have 200ug tabs, I HAVE had them, and I know what pure shit feels like in large quantities.

That said - the only way for DMT or Caps to actually affect me in a way that feels worth it, I have to take legendary doses. That's just the way it's been. Just because you have an average tolerance doesn't mean I'm just an idiot - and I'm not going to respond to a response like that again.



Trippyhunter - so the static you see it basically the color of the object? Maybe more white and chalky?

If so - has anyone experienced this colored static? The colors are most noticeable when looking at darkness - the static has underlying purples and greens as well as silverish... although it's hard to actually identify the colors

Do I experience something different when I trip then? Because I see these for at least part of every visual trip.

Has anyone seen limited colored visual snow? If I'm the only one it's gonna put me in an disadvantageous position


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21823947 - 06/18/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't believe you


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21823957 - 06/18/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay so, I am going to put my Stan Grof hat on again and talk from the perspectives he offers in his book LSD psychotherapy.

This static is just HPPD. HPPD and other after effects of tripping are caused when traumatic material surfaces during the trip that isn't acknowledged and dealt with. After a fully integrated and healing trip in which surfacing material is integrated, there are no after effects. No HPPD, no tension or anxiety, no insomnia, nothing. These are all caused by being unable to fully let go and work through the surfacing material. Stan Grof calls this material a "condensed experience" or COEX.  The little effects you get OP, are from your resistance to the drugs effects. Resistance you have in order to prevent the confrontation with this traumatic material. It's a defense mechanism.

I've seen your earlier thread as well and in my mind, this is the only explanation to resisting such huge doses and getting HPPD-like after effects...

Check out Stan Grof's book LSD Psychotherapy if you are really interested in the full spectrum of psychedelic experiences and his theories about them. He has probably seen more people trip than anyone else on this planet.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21824043 - 06/18/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well I got like 5% hppd symptoms and I got no insomnia I sleep very well

HPPD symptoms happen for me both on lsd and mushrooms, and more with increasing dose

After a large dose they can last 3-5 weeks easily, sometimes 2-3 months or more

They usually subside to a tolerable amount


If I stare at a wall I notice them, else I don't notice them, it is like a fog overlaying my vision still years after last trip on LSD, I have also had the carpet move spontaneously

It can change your vision, but I haven't had any adverse effect from it

The adverse is only weeks after a high dose where reading can become hard, that's why I don't dose high too often - the book may swirl around next days even after ending a trip...

The street outside may swirl around too, next days after a high dose trip - seems it stays in the body/mind a little while longer when you dose high

A high dose trip can sometimes last a few weeks - I bet anyone who has dosed high knows this

You're not really back to baseline when you dose high, it takes a few weeks to be back at least usually


When I dose psychedelics again, my hppd symptoms start over again and become pretty severe for a week or so at least, then after a few weeks they become tolerable again
But during that week I will have intense snow overlay in my vision - so much it is hard to read or watch a screen

I acknowledge hppd symptoms as a real risk, but the risk is small for feeling disabled by it, and I am not sure what causes it - neither is science it seems

Stanislav has some interesting material though, sounds pretty interesting...

Non integrated stuff can definitely make you be weird, some get anxiety for random things, some get public place anxiety, some can't talk to people, some get old memories surfacing so they cry out of nowhere

Diving deep into the psyche is very risky behavior... - but LSD trips are no more risky than lucid dreams that way.


So, are my hppd symptoms just unintegrated experiences, 2 years later ? - maybe, I don't feel 100% back the old way, but I am also not striving to be back the old way, I want a new way
that way you could say I am working every day still towards a new way

I notice a few more things also:
my perception of color is permanently changed it seems - but in a good way
my eyes have changed when I go outside in the dark from being inside in light - was never like this before , but it is very enjoyable, it's like tripping again... semiflashback like each time, I feel like tripping when I go out in the dark always now , everything becomes beautiful - hard to describe , feels like my pupils changed

And my pupils did indeed change size for months it seems.... - they got larger than normal after tripping, and seems to last

It feels exactly like tripping - a very slow reaction to light now, that's probably the feeling...
So I would imagine my pupils keep large, and that is also what I seem to have noticed, they are larger than before I ever started tripping it seems
I always experience "problems" adjusting to much light or no light now - never did before really


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21824104 - 06/18/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Try lucid dreaming instead

Free LSD, then you can sell your LSD to someone that would like it - there are lots of people who would appreciate a cheap hit ;-)

Lucid dreaming is just as good as any LSD trip and it's free

www.ld4all.nl
www.dreamviews.com

I can never get tired of LDs, but I can of tripping


You can be overwhelmed by lucid dreams every single time, every year, for the rest of your life
How do you feel about jumping out from a building?
Becoming a bird?
Teleporting to any place you want?
Flying anywhere you want and it feels 100% real ?
Create things with your mind, anything you want
Break the rules at work/school and do what you must not do?:wink: etc. - no rules

(usually flying isn't allowed in work hours/when you're at school i.e.)

Time travel, go back in time, relive part of your life - this time with NO rules, it feels like you're there




I think the one thing that always amazed me about lucid dreaming is how real the environment always felt. Now that's a trip.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21824108 - 06/18/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I see this "snow" all the time now. Been this way for a little while, year or two. I think that the snow is actually energy that you are seeing. There's not

a whole lot out there that talks about this or describes it very well. I also see a grid like pattern while I'm sober quite frequently now and it's pretty

fucking wierd. We are surrounded by energy. We see, feel, hear all in vibrations so why wouldn't some people be able to see past the plain of our

reality and be able to see vibrations of energy and fields? I am starting to think that we can, and sober too.




If you wear glasses I find taking them off makes HPPD 100 times worse. All of that blurriness turns into full blown visuals. My vision isn't even that bad either.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21824117 - 06/18/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But nature and the world I see changed completely too , so maybe it is just the 'reborn feeling'

Everything is beautiful, especially at night, especially rain weather etc. ;-)

I feel reborn everytime it rains etc.

You get the mind of a kid, to some extent, can be a very good thing, and sometimes a bad when you don't always fit in

I love the way I see my world now

The hppd symptoms only work to my advantage , at least the one when I go outside from being inside, really like that one

The snow one I could be without, can disturb me a few times a month if unlucky maybe...

LSD teaches you to be your own psycho coach if you do it right, that's what is so good about it, it teaches you to understand the mind
So it can help free your mind..

But I have found much much value in receiving help from another person I know that is meditating, did find out that maybe I wasn't fully back...
It can be hard to tell if you are fully back..


Should you be back to the way society expects you to be?
or to the way you love to be?

I was back to #2, and not really very able to deal with society #1 (many situations I couldn't deal with after tripping - and THAT's where a personal psycho coach REALLY helps..)


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21824178 - 06/18/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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GoldenEye said:
Okay so, I am going to put my Stan Grof hat on again and talk from the perspectives he offers in his book LSD psychotherapy.

This static is just HPPD. HPPD and other after effects of tripping are caused when traumatic material surfaces during the trip that isn't acknowledged and dealt with. After a fully integrated and healing trip in which surfacing material is integrated, there are no after effects. No HPPD, no tension or anxiety, no insomnia, nothing. These are all caused by being unable to fully let go and work through the surfacing material. Stan Grof calls this material a "condensed experience" or COEX.  The little effects you get OP, are from your resistance to the drugs effects. Resistance you have in order to prevent the confrontation with this traumatic material. It's a defense mechanism.

I've seen your earlier thread as well and in my mind, this is the only explanation to resisting such huge doses and getting HPPD-like after effects...

Check out Stan Grof's book LSD Psychotherapy if you are really interested in the full spectrum of psychedelic experiences and his theories about them. He has probably seen more people trip than anyone else on this planet.





I was pretty sure HPPD is a after-effect... I only perceive this "static" while I'm peaking/in the flux of my trip.

It's hard to say if I actually let go or not - although I definitely try, I work at repressing nothing, understanding even the smallest things I experience. What could I be repressing that inhibits my trip? I've seemingly worked through most of my issues and am working through the smaller ones right now.


I dont experience HPPD - everything I experience that is "trippy" when I'm sober either happens when my mind is psychoactivated (through my will, letting go, and practice and while coming out of/into sleep) or when I trick my perceptions and allow myself to break reality. I dont get HPPD like effects after the trip. In fact - I only feel weird the next day like half the time, if that.

If I am repressing thought - do you have any advice?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
    #21824195 - 06/18/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well I got like 5% hppd symptoms and I got no insomnia I sleep very well

HPPD symptoms happen for me both on lsd and mushrooms, and more with increasing dose

After a large dose they can last 3-5 weeks easily, sometimes 2-3 months or more

They usually subside to a tolerable amount


If I stare at a wall I notice them, else I don't notice them, it is like a fog overlaying my vision still years after last trip on LSD, I have also had the carpet move spontaneously

It can change your vision, but I haven't had any adverse effect from it

The adverse is only weeks after a high dose where reading can become hard, that's why I don't dose high too often - the book may swirl around next days even after ending a trip...

The street outside may swirl around too, next days after a high dose trip - seems it stays in the body/mind a little while longer when you dose high

A high dose trip can sometimes last a few weeks - I bet anyone who has dosed high knows this

You're not really back to baseline when you dose high, it takes a few weeks to be back at least usually


When I dose psychedelics again, my hppd symptoms start over again and become pretty severe for a week or so at least, then after a few weeks they become tolerable again
But during that week I will have intense snow overlay in my vision - so much it is hard to read or watch a screen

I acknowledge hppd symptoms as a real risk, but the risk is small for feeling disabled by it, and I am not sure what causes it - neither is science it seems

Stanislav has some interesting material though, sounds pretty interesting...

Non integrated stuff can definitely make you be weird, some get anxiety for random things, some get public place anxiety, some can't talk to people, some get old memories surfacing so they cry out of nowhere

Diving deep into the psyche is very risky behavior... - but LSD trips are no more risky than lucid dreams that way.


So, are my hppd symptoms just unintegrated experiences, 2 years later ? - maybe, I don't feel 100% back the old way, but I am also not striving to be back the old way, I want a new way
that way you could say I am working every day still towards a new way

I notice a few more things also:
my perception of color is permanently changed it seems - but in a good way
my eyes have changed when I go outside in the dark from being inside in light - was never like this before , but it is very enjoyable, it's like tripping again... semiflashback like each time, I feel like tripping when I go out in the dark always now , everything becomes beautiful - hard to describe , feels like my pupils changed

And my pupils did indeed change size for months it seems.... - they got larger than normal after tripping, and seems to last

It feels exactly like tripping - a very slow reaction to light now, that's probably the feeling...
So I would imagine my pupils keep large, and that is also what I seem to have noticed, they are larger than before I ever started tripping it seems
I always experience "problems" adjusting to much light or no light now - never did before really




Im not experiencing HPPD. Im talking about during the trip.

Either way - it's less common for me to feel the LSD for more than a day or two - and half the time not at all the next day.

However, I do have something called a "sober trip" that I am building. It's not built on flashbacks, but rather slowly altering my mind in tandum with what I learn from hallucinogens. PARTS of what I know use a form of flashbacks tobegin the process - but I think a lot of what I can do is more natural than a flashback



That said - I'm still not tripping as hard as I want to (this has ALWAYS been a problem, but even more so now)


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: oomchu]
    #21824215 - 06/18/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

lessismore said:
Try lucid dreaming instead

Free LSD, then you can sell your LSD to someone that would like it - there are lots of people who would appreciate a cheap hit ;-)

Lucid dreaming is just as good as any LSD trip and it's free

www.ld4all.nl
www.dreamviews.com

I can never get tired of LDs, but I can of tripping


You can be overwhelmed by lucid dreams every single time, every year, for the rest of your life
How do you feel about jumping out from a building?
Becoming a bird?
Teleporting to any place you want?
Flying anywhere you want and it feels 100% real ?
Create things with your mind, anything you want
Break the rules at work/school and do what you must not do?:wink: etc. - no rules

(usually flying isn't allowed in work hours/when you're at school i.e.)

Time travel, go back in time, relive part of your life - this time with NO rules, it feels like you're there




I think the one thing that always amazed me about lucid dreaming is how real the environment always felt. Now that's a trip.





I forgot to respond to the initial Lucid Dreaming part


I am working on learning to lucid dream - but doing it only with mental power is proving to be challenging. I have had a few dreams where I tripped in them, and I've had a few lucid dreams, but recently my dreams have been binded more to reality.

Which is weird because Im trying to bind my reality to dreams...

And now when I'm dreaming, if I ask "am I dreaming" im too confused and "tired" to actually go through checking if I'm dreaming.



The last intense trip I had, on 7 tabs, I was able to hallucinate the inside of my car. It had details that were akin to dream details. It looked retro and the numbers didnt really work - it had that weird vibe. Then I was able to create rooms and detailed objects with that same vibe. THATS THE KINDA STUFF I WANT TO HAPPEN WHEN I TRIP! I DONT WANNA HAVE TO TAKE 1000ug TO EXPERIENCE COOL STUFF LIKE THAT!!!


srry bout caps


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21824220 - 06/18/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stan Grof just upped the dose and continued with the sessions :laugh: Eventually something of note is going to happen.

I would start with maybe lying down with headphones on and wearing a blindfold while you trip? That way there is nothing to do but turn inwards.

If that remains uneventful I would probably practice some form of mindfulness meditation that centers around bodily sensations. Vipassana for instance. The body is the best map for gauging what's going on.

Do you get any body sensations while tripping? Or body load I guess some people prefer to call it?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21824255 - 06/18/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I started tripping when I was 16. By the time I was 19-20 I was sick of it. Instead of being fascinated by the experience, I was laying in bed at 4am asking myself - why did I do this? I'd rather be asleep. So I took 30 years off from psychedelics. Now I'm in back, in my 50's. It's great because I'm much wiser and more level headed than I was back then. Tripping is a different experience at this age. But in some ways it's exactly the same.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Universe]
    #21824259 - 06/18/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You still lie in bed awake at 4 am don't you? :lol:

I've always wondered how the psychedelic experience changes with age. Can you describe how it did for you?


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21824269 - 06/18/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stan Grof just upped the dose and continued with the sessions :laugh: Eventually something of note is going to happen.

I would start with maybe lying down with headphones on and wearing a blindfold while you trip? That way there is nothing to do but turn inwards.

If that remains uneventful I would probably practice some form of mindfulness meditation that centers around bodily sensations. Vipassana for instance. The body is the best map for gauging what's going on.

Do you get any body sensations while tripping? Or body load I guess some people prefer to call it?



Quote:

GoldenEye said:
Stan Grof just upped the dose and continued with the sessions :laugh: Eventually something of note is going to happen.

I would start with maybe lying down with headphones on and wearing a blindfold while you trip? That way there is nothing to do but turn inwards.

If that remains uneventful I would probably practice some form of mindfulness meditation that centers around bodily sensations. Vipassana for instance. The body is the best map for gauging what's going on.

Do you get any body sensations while tripping? Or body load I guess some people prefer to call it?





Well I did that - I started at 4 tabs avg (which was already RIDICULOUS to most of my friends - many people wouldnt even sell me LSD out of fear that I would hurt myself) and eventually brought the average to legendary doeses.

There are two problems. 1. Almost no one is a consistant supplier of hallucinogens any more - when I find them, theyre limited and expensive. 2. I ran out of my stache because I couldn't find a good enough deal to eat 7 sell 5 and make my money back... So now I am ~$100 when I need like ~120 for a good trip and only make ~20 a week right now for psychadelics...


So I can't keep upping... I need to somehow trip with less... or not trip at all.. or at least feel like that one trip would be worth it rather than a waste of money.

I was actually surpised by how little I felt in my body. I would get the occasional shiver, a small tingling running up my legs, but really minor stuff. Also got minor "melting" feelings



I watched an episode of china il while I was coming down. The episode was Charlize....

It was a really disturbing episode - China IL is usually funny and light hearted - this episode really took me by surprised by how much I felt the pain and sickness in the episode...

Theres a part where a cartoon character in the show has to walk around a hospital alone with her leg bone sticking out. It wasnt super realitic but when she set it I passed out.

I began to sweat, heat and tingles ran up my body to my head. I was like "woah this is cool, I thought my trip was almost over!"

And then I just realized I was lying on the floor covered in sweat looking at the ceiling. I feinted, knocked over my bong, and woke up within a minute...

Other than that though - nothing cool. Something on other trips I will get tingles that run all across my body and are really noticable and feel good. These were kinda meh




headphones and blindfolds are how I began my journey into the "dreamscape"


Which is something I seek mastery over. an issue is that now that I've spent so long understanding and mastering it - I don't get taken away as far when I let go. And now I also don't see the dreamscape as well while I'm awake - I just haven't seen it in detail in a very long time...


But I spend a lot of time every trip with my eyes closed. I often dont listen to music because I like the natural silence while tripping - but even meditation doesn't usually bring the dreamscape often anymore...


Its like I'm gaining mastery over my spiritual self, but because I seek this master I am becoming spiritually weak. It's extremely troubling, as tripping is like my favorite thing even and I cant even really experience it anymore... at least I think


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Universe]
    #21824285 - 06/18/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I started tripping when I was 16. By the time I was 19-20 I was sick of it. Instead of being fascinated by the experience, I was laying in bed at 4am asking myself - why did I do this? I'd rather be asleep. So I took 30 years off from psychedelics. Now I'm in back, in my 50's. It's great because I'm much wiser and more level headed than I was back then. Tripping is a different experience at this age. But in some ways it's exactly the same.





Yeah I found I spend a lot of time just kinda pacing thinking about what to do

Maybe I should just save tripping for big events

but I really like tripping alone and doing experiments with the limits of perception





Maybe I just need to increase my sober trip - and once I master that adding hallucinogens to the mix might do some crazy things... but idk how anymore - I feel like I'm doing shit wrong


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21824311 - 06/18/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Odd. If it doesn't work and you can't seem to fix it, I guess it's time to find something else that does work?

Lame advice but probably the best I can do...

(of course in order to find a replacement you'd have to know what it is exactly that made tripping your favourite thing)


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    #21824349 - 06/18/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

After an LSD trip, I need to take a much longer break off of psychedelics than I do after a mushroom trip. I could do mushrooms every 2 weeks or so and have awesome trips each and every time. But LSD burns out my psychedelic needs for at least a month or two.

I'd suggest taking a break, or maybe attempt to take harmalas with mushrooms or LSD, as they can increase the trip.(Not 100% sure about LSD, but I think so)

I've had moments, laying on the bed wondering why I tripped at all. That trip was honestly so weird. 5 grams of decent mushrooms(it was 2 weeks after an LSD trip, maybe thats why) One second I feel so sober, and then another the world was morphing and melting around me, and then back to normal. That was probably one of the only times on shrooms I broke away from reality.

I ended up walking outside, to just kinda walk off the trip a bit. I almost thought I was being abducted(it was venus in the sky) and I ended up having an out of body experience zooming into space, noticing how little and meaningless we are, but that's the beauty of life. That we make our own problems, almost like the world would end otherwise, but it won't.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, maybe you just need to change up your psychedelic experience. Try to trip outdoors, or go camping and do so. It really feels like a whole new thing.

Oh and to lessismore, I kinda like being weird. The only people who are normal are people you don't know.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Achillita]
    #21824386 - 06/18/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The only people who are normal are people you don't know.




+1 for this.


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21824479 - 06/18/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Achillita said:
After an LSD trip, I need to take a much longer break off of psychedelics than I do after a mushroom trip. I could do mushrooms every 2 weeks or so and have awesome trips each and every time. But LSD burns out my psychedelic needs for at least a month or two.

I'd suggest taking a break, or maybe attempt to take harmalas with mushrooms or LSD, as they can increase the trip.(Not 100% sure about LSD, but I think so)

I've had moments, laying on the bed wondering why I tripped at all. That trip was honestly so weird. 5 grams of decent mushrooms(it was 2 weeks after an LSD trip, maybe thats why) One second I feel so sober, and then another the world was morphing and melting around me, and then back to normal. That was probably one of the only times on shrooms I broke away from reality.

I ended up walking outside, to just kinda walk off the trip a bit. I almost thought I was being abducted(it was venus in the sky) and I ended up having an out of body experience zooming into space, noticing how little and meaningless we are, but that's the beauty of life. That we make our own problems, almost like the world would end otherwise, but it won't.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, maybe you just need to change up your psychedelic experience. Try to trip outdoors, or go camping and do so. It really feels like a whole new thing.

Oh and to lessismore, I kinda like being weird. The only people who are normal are people you don't know.





I spend 50% of my trip outside..

Something I forgot to mention, 1.5 hours after taking the shrooms I threw up - I was smoking oil in my car and thought I had it under control, but because i was tripping I didnt open my window and lean out. I was like "nah I got this" (im never like that, I was peaking tho) and I projectile booted inside my car. I think its possible that not having shrooms in my stomach shortened the trip - and its likely my fault that I didn't trip as hard as I could have

I used some old rags and water to clean it..


I thought that ended my trip - but I was lucky becaues I was already peaking. I smoked a cig after finished cleaning and the ground was moving around a decent ammount. coulda got a fractal if I tried



But the issue is, I want THAT feeling to last longer. Where the world is moving a great amount and everything looks like a liquid.


Ive never had an out of body experience - but thats one of the things i desperately want to experience. ANYTHING like that while tripping would make me soooooooo happy. I actually tried to see if I could extend out of my body when I went for a walk, but I wasnt tripping hard enough for anything to happen



It just like when I trip, I have a great time for two hours, and then I get something real to do, but once I get there the trip is like over. It just doesn't last long enough


Which is weird cuz I would often have 10+ hour trips on legendary doses






On top of that - the past 3 months have been really slow - Ive let my tolerance drop tripping once every 3 weeks max.... Youd think my tolerance would go down but I tripped less hard than I did when I took them weekly.


I used to be able to take 7+ tabs every weekend and have a great trip.... Well, great by my standards, which is like a 2 tab trip for other people...


Literally on the same LSD my friends will take 2 and Ill take 6, and my friend will trip harder. And it's not like I'm expecting to not trip hard - nor do I take it personally. I just realize it after the fact and its weird




Goldeneye - my favorite part about tripping is that 1. Your ego comes out to play! 2. The intense visual distortions 3. The weird vibe that sometimes happens


Mostly the visual distortions. I need a drug that will greately distort my visuals for 5+ hours




I can drive on 10 tabs when the world is falling apart so I can really handle my perceptions even while they're screwy - I just wanna see cool shit and I dont wanna have to focus hard and meditate for it to happen... I just want shrooms to show me the way for once


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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
    #21824499 - 06/18/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Or buy a kaleidoscope :heart:



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