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glimpee
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Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore
#21822131 - 06/18/15 02:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk....
Ive tripped twice in the past month and a half. I just finished tripping an hour or so ago
I don't really have any cool experiences, I have to make my own and I often feel like I waste the trip doing stupid shit. I experiment a lot when I'm tripping and I guess if I don't find anything new or if I get too distracted it feels like a waste
But I feel like if I shouldn't have to take 7.5 grams to be disappointed
Like I have to take 10+ tabs to actually enjoy the experience, and at that point I'm spending a lot of money and its really hard to even find that quantity
But my dilema is that I don't know enough and my mind isn't psychoactivated enough yet
So I'm not tripping in sobriety and I'm not tripping hard when I take drugs
I just wanna we overwhelmed by the psychadelic - for it to show me something new. But I feel like I've killed the magic but understanding it too well
(by the way, what do you call the stuff that makes patterns in the darkness while youre tripping? It almost looks like vibrating static.... I hope you know what I mean because all I gained from that trip was being able to describe this static finally)
the worst part is it doesn't even feel like it lasts long enough
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
#21822184 - 06/18/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I used to feel the same way about pornography.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: gcs]
#21822229 - 06/18/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You didn't take 7.5 grams of potent or even average cubensis without tripping absolute balls. Actually take that dose, or even 5 grams. You might be petrified but you won't be bored that's for sure. And you'll learn respect instead of abuse.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: gcs]
#21822244 - 06/18/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually, it kind of fits exactly. 
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I don't really have any pleasurable experiences, I have to put in a lot of effort and I often feel like I waste time doing stupid shit. I experiment a lot with different kinds of porn and I guess if I don't find anything new or if I get too distracted it feels like a waste
But I feel like I shouldn't have to wait 7.5 hours to be disappointed
Like I have to visit 10+ websites to actually enjoy the experience, and at that point I'm spending a lot of time and it's really hard to even find new websites
But my dilemma is that I'm unsatisfied and I haven't had a really good orgasm yet
So I'm not ejaculating without porn, and I'm not ejaculating hard enough when I watch porn
I just want to be overwhelmed by the porn - for it to show me something new. But I feel like I've killed the magic by watching it too much
(by the way, what do you call that thing where the guy ... into the girl's ... and then she ... I hope you know what I meant because all I gained from that porn session was being able to describe this sexual act finally)
the worst part is it doesnt even feel like the orgasm lasts long enough
Perhaps endless monotony is the trip you can learn the most from, a way of showing that something is missing from the path you have chosen for yourself?
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: gcs]
#21822269 - 06/18/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not only tolerance, but also loss of magic. Take a 3 month break, then dose 200ug and you will trip hard! If done constantly, LSD will temporarily lose it's magic.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: Ego Trip]
#21822357 - 06/18/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I first got started I thought all kinds of profoundly spiritual things would be shown to me. Was vastly disappointed that all I saw was nothingness behind all my egoshit. I think, with the right encouragement, I could've understood that it's a tool, an additional supplement, that aides the mind in understanding itself...or, at the very least, can dissolve the sediment that encrusts assumptions you may not need anymore...not a magical substance that imparts wisdom solely from it's ingestion. Also, can be used 'just for fun' without any heavy spiritual burden.

TL;DR It's not for everybody.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#21822374 - 06/18/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try lucid dreaming instead
Free LSD, then you can sell your LSD to someone that would like it - there are lots of people who would appreciate a cheap hit ;-)
Lucid dreaming is just as good as any LSD trip and it's free
www.ld4all.nl www.dreamviews.com
I can never get tired of LDs, but I can of tripping
You can be overwhelmed by lucid dreams every single time, every year, for the rest of your life How do you feel about jumping out from a building? Becoming a bird? Teleporting to any place you want? Flying anywhere you want and it feels 100% real ? Create things with your mind, anything you want Break the rules at work/school and do what you must not do? etc. - no rules
(usually flying isn't allowed in work hours/when you're at school i.e.)
Time travel, go back in time, relive part of your life - this time with NO rules, it feels like you're there
Edited by lessismore (06/18/15 05:27 AM)
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
#21822383 - 06/18/15 05:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Finding ways to 'bring it back home' with you is definitely a key element.
Zig-Zag Zen talks with buddhist monks about the psychedelic experience and they say it's a fruit too big for the tree. In other words, that the experience is too otherworldly, too heavy, for practical application in daily life.
Finding a way to bring those revelations and experiences back into our daily routine is a chore. LD is a good method. Kundalini Yoga also is brilliant.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21822390 - 06/18/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yup well said, if you keep doing high doses you will eventually become weird to society, maybe the new Mckenna
But you would probably want to do other stuff with your life than philosophize
Lucid dreaming has a benefit of being easy to integrate usually, for some reason it seems
Trips take months or years to integrate for me usually, and if you trip before integrating you become weird - not in contact with earth anymore, all in the mind
So you can trip too much, maybe take a break?
When you need to take 10+ hits it's usually time
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: lessismore]
#21822415 - 06/18/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, don't do it then
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
#21822581 - 06/18/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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did you try dmt?
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
#21822590 - 06/18/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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glimpee said: by the way, what do you call the stuff that makes patterns in the darkness while youre tripping? It almost looks like vibrating static.... I hope you know what I mean because all I gained from that trip was being able to describe this static finally)
Visual snow?
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
#21822625 - 06/18/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
GoldenEye said: Well, don't do it then 
This. Psychedelics aren't for everyone.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21822737 - 06/18/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: Finding ways to 'bring it back home' with you is definitely a key element.
Zig-Zag Zen talks with buddhist monks about the psychedelic experience and they say it's a fruit too big for the tree. In other words, that the experience is too otherworldly, too heavy, for practical application in daily life.
Finding a way to bring those revelations and experiences back into our daily routine is a chore. LD is a good method. Kundalini Yoga also is brilliant.
This. OP, try growing mushrooms. It will help you out in so many ways, and your trips will resonate with new found clarity and purpose.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21823132 - 06/18/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trip and then integrate into your life what you've learned, while being sober. Don't make tripping a casual and occasional habit, that way the magic won't disappear out of your life. Consider tripping as something sacred and special. Try alternative hobbies like yoga, heavy exercise, meditation etc. to reach altered states of mind.
Remember with psychedelics, the less is more.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: mothamaruti]
#21823187 - 06/18/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see this "snow" all the time now. Been this way for a little while, year or two. I think that the snow is actually energy that you are seeing. There's not
a whole lot out there that talks about this or describes it very well. I also see a grid like pattern while I'm sober quite frequently now and it's pretty
fucking wierd. We are surrounded by energy. We see, feel, hear all in vibrations so why wouldn't some people be able to see past the plain of our
reality and be able to see vibrations of energy and fields? I am starting to think that we can, and sober too.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: mothamaruti]
#21823435 - 06/18/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mothamaruti said: Trip and then integrate into your life what you've learned, while being sober. Don't make tripping a casual and occasional habit, that way the magic won't disappear out of your life. Consider tripping as something sacred and special. Try alternative hobbies like yoga, heavy exercise, meditation etc. to reach altered states of mind.
Remember with psychedelics, the less is more.
This is actually what I do. I trip TO bring it back to my sober life. ima just respond to the other threads in a row
OneBigMushroon - Actually, I did. My tolerance is very high - and I hadn't tripped on mushrooms in like 3 months... I tripped on LSD 4 weeks before this trip though. So I wasn't taking it constantly - I waited a long time for this trip. EVERY trip I take though I take 7+ grams or 5+ tabs. And I know that I don't always have 100% pure shit but my shit is good, I have other people vouching for that. I will garuntee I will NOT be petrified. I've tripped EXTREMELY hard but only DMT has had the honor of overwhelming me (actually I passed out last night while watching a really really dark episode of China Il, "Charlize") By the way I respect the fuck out of LSD and Shrooms, they're my buddies
gcs - I've been working to integrate "tripping" into sobriety - learning from my artificially raised vibration to understand how to raise it on my own. The problem is, LSD is showing me less and less. LSD never takes me away - it never distorts reality in conjunction with my emotions or experience - stuff basically only really moves anymore if I make it. It's like because I tried to control it, it denied me it's powers.
EgoTrip - 200ug won't make me trip though. I've done a 2 months T break and then came back to at least 700ug and I felt like that trip was a waste too. I spent 140 and it only felt like I was on two tabs - LSD didn't take me anywhere, show me anything new, or ever toy with my perceptions past making everything breathe for an hour or two.
Wait... I just remembered that 5-6 weeks ago I got sold fake LSD and I tripped for 4 hours... it was a disappointing trip and not groundbreaking but it wasn't that far from the $80-150 trips I've had recently.... Maybe I AM getting closer to a higher vibration and I'm being "tested" to see if I'm doing this for spirituality or if I'm just a dumb kid... maybe
SoupSandwitch - as an artist and producer, tripping helps. When I trip I am constantly writing music, and I am working on learning how to force hallucination.... I'll be able to imagine things in detail and then draw them... at least thats one goal I believe there might be something past this reality, but Im interested in the limits of human perception/experience. I want to push the boundaries of this reality and see how far I can go. What I can experience. What I can learn, and if what I learn is true of a deeply fabricated lie that coincided with other stories. Ive also had really otherworldly experiences with psychedelics, but they're not happening anymore, and that's why I'm worried. Those otherworldly experiences showed me better the limits of human perception - and every little thing I learned I could do (like stack/change a pile of antiques that doesn't exist in great detail that changes every time I moved my eyes.... This happened on 7 tabs and was the last heavy trip I had) I would learn from psychadelics and then recreate the feeling while sober. Every trip adds on to the intensity of my eternal trip - which also slowly increases on it's own. Finding a way to bring back my trip is one of the most fun things for me to do - to try to trick my mind into breaking reality and shifting. And what's interesting is that some visual distortion is not possible until you achieve prior smaller levels of distortion. I also meditate actively (while doing stuff) but should start doing silent meditation.
Jean-guymasta - I tried DMT twice, and I wasn't ready. It kicked my ass and gave me my first hallucination/bad trip. The 2nd time I took it DMT rejected me and gave me another bad trip But I loved the bad trips because they were my first ones and I was still in control to a pretty good extent
TryptoFan - Is that what they call it? It looks like static made of purples/greens/lightblues/silvers and when you're tripping these are what form the patterns within blackness. If you stare at something these will converge at the center - making it impossible to actually focus on a point. Each individual dot flickers and vibrates, together making a shaking flowing mass of pattern. I had the thought that those patterns are closer to the true nature of the object than our normal perceptions - but that's to be tested.
predor - psychedelics are for me, but they're not intense anymore. I've never had an experience where I sat down and listened to music and drifted off somewhere. I barely even get closed eye visuals anymore! Before I would sometimes see a detailed room of fractals and stuff like that but now it's like closing my eyes while sober! Except more shifting and flowing, just not detailed and I can't get color! (except last night, the only thing I DID get was a colored wormhole that i thought I was gonna go though - but it never let me. I got to see a color changing wormhole that denied me passage into trippier planes.
Morthami - I completely agree with you. As soon as I get phychadelics I just can't stop smiling. I'm eager to see my friend again, to learn again, I become ready to give my self over to the drug and let it take me - although I also try to learn and experiment a lot with my altered state of mind. I've actually found that if I meditate while coming up I trip really hard. This also acts when I'm sober - I took fake LSD and convinced myself to trip for 4 hours (first time I ever changed the colors/shadows/fisheyelense of reality while sober)
TrippieHunter - Are you serious? This is energy? Fuck yes I love my intuition! How were you able to start perceiving this while sober? How long did you practice spirituality? How long did you trip before you achieved it? How often did you trip? I really need to ask because this is one of my goals, and 2-3 hours into the trip I lose all ability to see this energy
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21823453 - 06/18/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TrippieHunter said: I see this "snow" all the time now. Been this way for a little while, year or two. I think that the snow is actually energy that you are seeing. There's not
a whole lot out there that talks about this or describes it very well. I also see a grid like pattern while I'm sober quite frequently now and it's pretty
fucking wierd. We are surrounded by energy. We see, feel, hear all in vibrations so why wouldn't some people be able to see past the plain of our
reality and be able to see vibrations of energy and fields? I am starting to think that we can, and sober too.
I did some research. Visual snow is apparently usually encompassing the entire vision, everything just becomes static. Also the static is a lot more the color of the object in recreation images I saw. My static is a lot more "neon and silver" and has a lot more gaps - it makes flowing shifting patterns, not just static everywhere. It maybe takes up half (at most) of my overall vision, because it needs negative space to create patterns.
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee] 1
#21823593 - 06/18/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP is on medication or getting really shitty drugs
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Re: Tripping doesn't seem... worth it... anymore [Re: glimpee]
#21823885 - 06/18/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Honestly bro I don't think it is because of any drugs or spirituality. I don't even know if it is energy or if I am just going crazy. At this point the
energy thing makes the most sense. My static isn't really colorful, it's just there. Same with the grid, just is. It does seem to be intensified when
smoking some mary j, but it doesn't go away for me. I had a bad dirt bike accident a couple years ago and hit my head pretty hard. Even this though I
can not recall exactly when it started. When I look back on it I can remember being a kid and seeing some form of it. It's almost like when you're dehydrated
and you see stars, except that the entire space/ atmosphere is filled.
I know that there can be "floaters" in you're eyes that will cause you to see lines and sort and I do have these too, but this is not it. Also an
occurrences is caused by ocular migraines or a tumor pushing on the optical nerves. I have looked into all of these and none fit the build. Meditation
definitely helps in the accepting that this is happening and going on. But damn if I don't feel like I am losing my shit sometimes. I am not really
spiritual except for the search for inner peace.
-------------------- Just remember keep the camera rolling and FILM THE POLICE!!! CLICK ME WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON? CLICK ME TOO! Let it go and you will trip into wonderland!
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