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OfflineHrethic
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LSDug Test Kit
    #21821745 - 06/18/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So i'm coming across some very good lucy recently. Thank whatever energy for that. And yes it is acid, haven't gotten a reagent kit yet, but i've done enough to know.

SO! First of course i am going to get a regular test kit soon, but being as it's 2015 and things are changing fast, are there test kits for the actual AMOUNT of love in these?

I did do an admittedly short search on here and a couple other places and all they talk about is the reagent kits, but nothing i've seen measures amounts.

Or, without lab equipment and a degree, would this even be possible?


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: Hrethic] * 1
    #21821868 - 06/18/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can't measure the dose without a lab. There are no reagents that will change color based on amount detected, like they have with nitrates/ammonia/ph. LSD must be analyzed by equipment. Secondly reagent kits are an overkill if you ask me. LSD glows under ultraviolet and it doesn't get deactivated by stomach acid unlike most other substitutes. So if you don't have a black light, just swollow the tab without chewing it, it works the same exact way and takes just as long to kick in as if you chewed it. And it won't work at all if it's not cid.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: vanillasnake21]
    #21822683 - 06/18/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, i kinda figured you need some kind and/or multiple pieces of lab equipment of do that. It's alright, i know it's the love, and i know it's a large portion of it, guess that's what matters.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: Hrethic]
    #21822859 - 06/18/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know you said you're experienced, but many things glow under blacklights, and there are definitnely nbomes that can be swallowed.

So both of those are horrible ways to verify if it's lsd and I wouldn't advise relying on that as proof.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21822882 - 06/18/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

50ug about threshold  - color changes in environment, music sounds good

100ug pretty intense visual/mindfuck trip - fully conscious

150ug intense trip, walls melt, room bends towards you, you may feel under water
death/dying feeling each trip , looping, inner journeys many hours
unconscious part of trip

220ug you melt into the walls, there is no room, unconscious much of trip
music distorts, sounds bad, all music sounds like crap

music makes no sense

you cannot speak , or walk very good , you cannot think clearly

intense visuals , anything may happen out in mid air



I usually dose under 200ug, else music starts to sound bad, like playing on a saw or something

** these doses are based on 2 measured tabs of known doses of 220ug and 160ug I have seen tested and that I've tried myself several times, use as a guideline only, may not fit you at all


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21823013 - 06/18/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:
I know you said you're experienced, but many things glow under blacklights, and there are definitnely nbomes that can be swallowed.

So both of those are horrible ways to verify if it's lsd and I wouldn't advise relying on that as proof.




Always use a test kit on a new sheet. White paper glows under a black light regardless of what's on it. Never use a black light to test for lsd, a test kit costs $20, about the same as a light but much much much more reliable.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21823391 - 06/18/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

@SirShroomsAlot & @Supachopped719
I guyess you never actually tested anything andber uv light, first off no other chemical substitute glows under uv besides LSD, so if you have a white blotter all that you have to do is put it into everclear, bout 10ml worth, and then put a drop of it on something and it should glow.

Secondly I would like to know what NBOM can be swollowed that will not diminish or completely destroy the effects? It's possible that it could absorb a little before it gets destroyed, or maybe someone was on an antacid while he took it, but in general it's a pretty reliable test for it.

I still stand by my point, unless you're dealing, or you're planning a huge party and want to distribute to many people/have huge investment in it, it's not worth it. Are you going to be carrying around a vial of Eirlicht with you to a rave? Otherwise a local club has all the equipment, a black light and acid, in your stomach that is.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: vanillasnake21]
    #21823425 - 06/18/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would honestly only trust a black light if it's on a medium with which you can differentiate between the glow of the paper and the glow of the acid. But if it's on a cracker or cube or something of the sort it's highly unlikely it's anything other than acid if the droplet glows. nobody goes around marking highliters on fake doses, that would just add to the bitterness and make it more obvious that it's fake.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: psilocyclops]
    #21823431 - 06/18/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if your friend/connect has a vial, you should get them to drop it on a cube. I love cubes because they absorb the liquid so well and if the guy doesn't have a black light to tell how much he's putting on the cube, more often than not if you buy multiple cubes and check them out you'll find one with at least twice the dose of the other ones, which makes for quite an interesting night.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: psilocyclops]
    #21823645 - 06/18/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The ones I recommend:

$5 UV pen from ebay.com - really great, has built in laser to play with too!
$10 ehrlich test kit


these are essential really, do not trip without
I've had LSD I was sure was lsd, but it wasn't! - I tripped 2 days - it also hurt my head , needles in head feeling

be careful, you cannot trust feeling today, too many rcs out there



With an ehrlich test kit you can approximately see dose sometimes
A heavily dosed blotter turns very deep purple very quickly... even with a tiny square


a lower dosed one turns pink first then slowly purple , but still not as purple


so you can tell a 200ug tab from a 80ug tab often this way it seems... faster reaction, and more purple reaction


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: vanillasnake21]
    #21824095 - 06/18/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

vanillasnake21 said:
@SirShroomsAlot & @Supachopped719
I guyess you never actually tested anything andber uv light, first off no other chemical substitute glows under uv besides LSD, so if you have a white blotter all that you have to do is put it into everclear, bout 10ml worth, and then put a drop of it on something and it should glow.

Secondly I would like to know what NBOM can be swollowed that will not diminish or completely destroy the effects? It's possible that it could absorb a little before it gets destroyed, or maybe someone was on an antacid while he took it, but in general it's a pretty reliable test for it.

I still stand by my point, unless you're dealing, or you're planning a huge party and want to distribute to many people/have huge investment in it, it's not worth it. Are you going to be carrying around a vial of Eirlicht with you to a rave? Otherwise a local club has all the equipment, a black light and acid, in your stomach that is.




Erowid.org

"LSD has been known to glow under ultraviolet or black light since at least the 1950s 1, but Erowid had never previously had access to confirmed LSD and an ultraviolet light. We recently photographed under black light fresh liquid LSD versus seven-year-old LSD, as well as liquid LSD versus 25I-NBOMe spots on paper. The primary light we used was a handheld Spectroline Model UV-5NF, but we also used two other battery-operated UV lights. All the UV light sources showed the same results, but the Spectroline UV-5NF photographed best. Even the LED UV micro lights caused the LSD to fluoresce clearly, so it is not necessary to use an expensive UV lamp to rule out LSD. If something sold as LSD does not fluoresce, it does not contain LSD. If it does fluoresce, it could be many things and LSD is one possibility.

In order to test for LSD using a UV light, we first checked the papers themselves under the light to determine whether or not (and to what degree) a given untreated paper sample glowed. Some bright white and colored papers glowed brightly enough under UV light on their own, without any LSD present, that a glowing spot would have been hard to identify. After we verified a paper sample that did not glow at all by itself, a drop of the liquid LSD (in this case, LSD in alcohol solution) was applied to the paper."



I said my other statement wrong, I meant research chemicals in general can be swallowed, not nbomes, not all, but definitely are ones that fit on blotter that you can swallow, it's hard to get that information since despite their name, there isn't much research on them, but you can read stories on here of people doing it. You can even read stories of people using the blacklight test on here, and then having their mouth taste bitter as fuck and go numb, which is not lsd.

As I said before, it might be a test you can do, but I would't advise relying on it, and yes, I would advise carrying around a test kit if you plan on taking drugs from random people, since you can potentially kill yourself because someone wanted to make some money and didn't give a shit what he was selling or make sure what he is selling is legit. especially since like 90% of "lsd" going around, are research chemicals.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21824616 - 06/18/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

erowid is trustworthy as much as a forum is, a lot of it has to be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of stuff can glow under uv, I'm pretty sure aspirin glows under uv. But when were talking about a blotter and things that can fit unto it, only lsd glows. Well, to be correct only lsd analogs glow. It might be lsa, it might be lsz, but i'm pretty sure eirlich won't distinguish that either, the way it works is it detects a basic base group, like an amines or amides. You can get positive on an eirlich test with a million other things as long as they contain the same base as LSD.

Secondly on the point of safety, you just have to be smart[er]. If you plan to take a heroic dose of any drug, then Eirlicht won't suffice, not only is it not an easy task to distinguish the fine shades, but it has to be performed properly, look up the chart I think it's on reddit of a person doing an Eirlicht and other tests on a bunch of chemicals including LSD, at the end he couldn't determine with 100% accuracy which was which. If you think you can do so on the go, then you haven't tried doing it at all. All that it comes down to is you take one hit, and if you've had real acid a few times before you will know if the compound is in another ballpark. But if you want to take 3mg, i really woudn't stake my life on a home eirlich test or any other home test for that matter.


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Re: LSDug Test Kit [Re: psilocyclops]
    #21824638 - 06/18/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

by the way bitterness is not indicative of nbome or 2ci, real cid can have a fairly strong bitter taste. I've had bitter acid before, and while it was only my experience and the source which told it was cid, I've spoken to a guy who I was not buying from and who lays it himself and he confirmed it that real acid could have a bitter taste. It's just not the best acid around, but it still could be acid.


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