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Psychedelic Synchronicities 2
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Well I just had to post here because only recently rethinking the last experiences I had with lucy over 2 years ago and not able to find since but thinking of because of all the wonderful trip reports at my disposal I found myself making a thought in my head that I would really like to find her again, And the next day later out of nowhere in a way I would never of ever expected landed me in contact with a buddy from back in the day who was able to bless me with some wow. I have not been able to get anything but quality bud and a little bit of shrooms in the past 2 years.
The universe has smiled upon me and synchronicities have allowed my desires and reality to manifest and this is something I perceive without drugs in my normal consciousness as of recently and it makes me smile and get that feeling that anyone who has ever had a meaningful experience gets you all know what im talking about and I just had to let you all know about it because only those who understand can honestly appreciate and accept it as something other then just getting fucked up. not that either is right or wrong but I cannot deny my own direct experience especially when it coincides with other "metaphysical" experiences I have and other people have while not on drugs, the drugs trigger the response but the experience still happens to me so that makes it as real as anything else is especially when it seriously impacts my outlook on life and flow with the natural energy that is all around us and everything all the time. That's the conundrum
You only live this life one time so to believe anything other then your direct experience as truth will only limit the infinite potential you are granted as a sentient being supposedly with "free will". eventually I think we will arrive at something collectively rather then singularly but it shows there is still great work to be done for humans to take back their lives and consciousness and we are on the front lines because at the very least I think we can all agree those lines are very present and real and constantly crossed in one way or another for some once in a while for others occasionally and for maybe only a few I don't know? almost everyday. The good thing is we all get to also choose our own pace it seems.
Trip reports to come 
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: Hypnotoad420] 1
#21821453 - 06/17/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The experience isn't only when you're tripping, it cast shadows before and after.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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I think that your mind definitely knows when it's time to "trip". I went five years without thinking about shrooms and it was like a bug bit me, was able to
land some without too much work. It's nature and yeah you don't need to be high to get the signals. You just need to be open to receiving them. Nice post!
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and exactly why I decided to finally join this community in the first place
If there is anything I learned from Ram Dass its that psychedelics are a miracle and they can grant us amazing experiences, but only if we can apply these experience in consensus reality will it really make any of a difference in the world. I'm sure I am not alone when I say when I first was introduced to psychedelics( being that it was in the right set and setting ) the first thing I thought to myself was that the whole world needs to experience this. I have had a few "bad trips" which make complete sense to me now not realizing before the powers I was disrespecting but since every experience regardless of dose brings me level 5 experiences. From OBE, astral travel, channeling, speaking in tongues, encounters with Inter-dimensional/Extra-dimensional entities, Etc. The ego death experience can be considered "bad" its just a part of understanding different parts of your own self and psychedelics are the best introspective tools to aid our minds in doing so that I have come across. We are all one realized or not I am you and you are me, The stars, the sea's, the wind, the trees, the birds, and yes the bees. the entire universe. Everything is just part of life; experience it while you got it. All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.

And all this stuff does is give us a temporary permission slip to be more of ourselves, and that's why it scares the crap out of our ego and we have to gear up just to do them but afterwards wonder why we were hesitant in the first place  And for the record this is all just 
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Feeling mind expandy lately hahaha
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I hear you, but I'm more about changing "consensus reality" itself through the use of psychedelics. Once you reach the levels upon which consensus reality is so poorly constructed it's impossible to go back, only forward. Your life changes in many ways.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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That's what I said 
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21842568 - 06/22/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ps out of curiosity(and anyone else), do you believe the experience given by psychedelics can only be a state of being obtained by partaking or do you think we can reach similar states naturally?
I have read some mild cases of hppd that just might be what I would consider as sixth sense developments of our actual reality based on experience in our visual and mental fields; I have read people claim they can almost "play" with the effects seeing aura's and hearing auditory hallucinations( and others are seriously effected ). may I open everyone to the possibility of Clairaudience and ESP? I am only smart because I know that I know nothing but what I see I see, and what I feel I feel, and what I experience I experience, By those things alone one could concur they are quite "Real" without even adding the possibility and fact that these things have occurred without these tools added. but for most that would get into touching generation upon generation upon countless generation where we have been programmed how and what to think that the mentioning of such things usually invoke movies, child fantasies, or science fiction.
I dont think impossible is a universal concept, its a self limitation that has been broken time and time again as human history has unfolded.
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I tripped on weed but it was was some weird synchronicity like experience where I would predict what was gonna happen next and it happened that way. took a few hits in my girlfriends car with her, she turned on music I don't like, I knew if I told her to turn it down she'd bitch but I knew if I turned it down myself she'd bitch but I knew if I kept it on I'd freak out, which I'd freak out either way...for knowing the outcome. so I chose to turn it down myself.. and she got mad... and I told her I knew that would happen. then I started to think of all my guilty choices in life, and she sensed my freakoutness and said "it's almost like you're on" and then we both said "shrooms" and then poof full blown trip of being Jesus being dragged to my hill which was her driving me there, we parked and she opened the door and as she was stepping out she asked if I was coming with her but outside was the bottom of the ocean so if I left I'd drown before reaching the top so she closed the door and I locked all the doors and was told that was the wrong desicion now I'm stuck all alone in Hell and the water started to come through the car and fill up slowly as I contemplated my last few moments and all of my choices, and suicide would only keep me there with extra pain but just sitting there would keep me there aswell, so I just.....was.... there's a lot more to it and eventually it wore off but I even knew the exact time it would wear off.. haven't touched a drug since... that was in april, few weeks after my quarter of shroom trip
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: Deathcore]
#21847209 - 06/23/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the way you described the synchronicity was correct but what you described to me was just a increased psychological awareness of your mental atmosphere which is common when smoking cannabis; not a synchronicity. THC is a psychedelic compound in its own right however just not highly recognized as such for its mild psychoactive properties, I guess it could be possibly in some individuals with high sensitivities to trip off of it "man that would be a dream come true for me "
And just some advice. If you trip out like that from weed I would never recommend you take a quarter of mushrooms or hard psychedelics. Got to learn to crawl before you learn to walk brotha all things reveal themselves when we are ready and it sounds like you might be one of those ones with a highly sensitive reaction to these things based on your story, but I don't know you at all so its just an assumption and from the heart friendly warning because no one likes to see someone have a bad experience and be scarred for life.
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Hypnotoad420 said: ps out of curiosity(and anyone else), do you believe the experience given by psychedelics can only be a state of being obtained by partaking or do you think we can reach similar states naturally?
I have read some mild cases of hppd that just might be what I would consider as sixth sense developments of our actual reality based on experience in our visual and mental fields; I have read people claim they can almost "play" with the effects seeing aura's and hearing auditory hallucinations( and others are seriously effected ). may I open everyone to the possibility of Clairaudience and ESP? I am only smart because I know that I know nothing but what I see I see, and what I feel I feel, and what I experience I experience, By those things alone one could concur they are quite "Real" without even adding the possibility and fact that these things have occurred without these tools added. but for most that would get into touching generation upon generation upon countless generation where we have been programmed how and what to think that the mentioning of such things usually invoke movies, child fantasies, or science fiction.
I dont think impossible is a universal concept, its a self limitation that has been broken time and time again as human history has unfolded.
I-Magi-Nation 
There is some congruency between psychedelic states and natural religious states, especially Buddhist realization and Taoist teachings of the great Way. When I say "some" though I'm trying to qualify the differences in the experiential description that I've read in various sources, and of course my own experience, at least with Buddhism.
I think that there's an underlying state in humans that can be accessed (to different degrees) through these pathways. And it reveals a far more complex and unruly universe than the one we imagine we inhabit, with the ordinary mundane reality being a construct of our brains that "paves over" the true chaos underneath. I've been in direct contact with this underlying state quite a few times now, and it's literally mind-blowing - your ordinary mind does NOT function there, can not function. It's exactly like waking up to a bigger reality.
Which is why I think evolution has either gifted or burdened us with "consciousness" that suppresses this bigger reality in favor of simple survival, a tradeoff that nobody ever bargained for...
Historically a few people have penetrated the illusions and passed on the knowledge. This is where religions come from, IMHO. The great trick of course would be to bring this kind of thing into consciousness without starting a new religion - because we all know what becomes of religions eventually.
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Hypnotoad420 said: and exactly why I decided to finally join this community in the first place
If there is anything I learned from Ram Dass its that psychedelics are a miracle and they can grant us amazing experiences, but only if we can apply these experience in consensus reality will it really make any of a difference in the world. I'm sure I am not alone when I say when I first was introduced to psychedelics( being that it was in the right set and setting ) the first thing I thought to myself was that the whole world needs to experience this. I have had a few "bad trips" which make complete sense to me now not realizing before the powers I was disrespecting but since every experience regardless of dose brings me level 5 experiences. From OBE, astral travel, channeling, speaking in tongues, encounters with Inter-dimensional/Extra-dimensional entities, Etc. The ego death experience can be considered "bad" its just a part of understanding different parts of your own self and psychedelics are the best introspective tools to aid our minds in doing so that I have come across. We are all one realized or not I am you and you are me, The stars, the sea's, the wind, the trees, the birds, and yes the bees. the entire universe. Everything is just part of life; experience it while you got it. All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be.

And all this stuff does is give us a temporary permission slip to be more of ourselves, and that's why it scares the crap out of our ego and we have to gear up just to do them but afterwards wonder why we were hesitant in the first place  And for the record this is all just 

speaking in tongues, entities, channeling is only good if you know what you're speaking with
but I know the feeling, you can get a level5 on any dose when you're ready, merging with oneness
you can get it without the drug too, nature is just as good without the drug as with the drug if you can find a silent remote area
I'm not sure psychedelics are for all, I have become very careful with sharing them now, after a few experiences
Some people will only try once and that was more than plenty for them, in fact the people who apparently 'are not trippers' will only try tripping once it doesn't interest them
Tripping appeals to some people for a reason, look within for the reason I know my reasons, they came when I looked deep enough
but it was the same reasons I smoked weed at first, until they evolved a bit, then it wasn't just to escape and get high, to escape from the stressful life situation
psychedelics can make us understand intention, and also that they can be dangerous to use if not used right
you may contact other stuff spiritually, at least I believe so, not all is friendly in there/out there
another reason I tripped LSD/shroom was to undertand my mind and there they have helped me... I always wanted that from I was 4-5 years old probably, then at 25 I did try them
only some people seem interested in psychedelics, but yes they could cure many, but not everyone, some are too far from being cured this lifetime likely they would get into hell if they tripped likely?
psychedelics show us our lies to ourselves, and that is not pleasant, don't give a 60 year old psychedelics , I wouldn't dare to do that
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21850837 - 06/24/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which is why I think evolution has either gifted or burdened us with "consciousness" that suppresses this bigger reality in favor of simple survival, a tradeoff that nobody ever bargained for...
Historically a few people have penetrated the illusions and passed on the knowledge. This is where religions come from, IMHO. The great trick of course would be to bring this kind of thing into consciousness without starting a new religion - because we all know what becomes of religions eventually. 
You come into your body and start using your senses and now you forget your real identity
But doesn't that mean that our senses is our enemy?
Sense pleasure is our enemy, or more specifically overindulgence in sense pleasure It robs you of your spirit
Moderation, compassion, patience, humility brings peace and understanding, those are the good virtues we should practice
We all get off this path once in a while, noone gets there permanently But many things help, exercise helps greatly, fasting does too - fasting brings you very close to spirit, nature etc.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21850867 - 06/24/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lessismore said: Sense pleasure is our enemy, or more specifically overindulgence in sense pleasure It robs you of your spirit
Is this why your name is 'lessismore'?
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21850920 - 06/24/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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After you have been to level5 or so, you may start to see more causes and effects than coincidences
No coincidences or almost none
I don't really see any anymore, it is especially interesting that many synchronicities lead you to tripping! - at least in my case
"lsd finds you"
and people who are ready "get reborn"
Many things look planned... but that is just my personal belief
It's some amazing molecules, especially LSD, the world could use some good cheap LSD instead of people getting life in prison for LSD It seems to bring out our true nature in many cases, also those that only tripped once I've seen
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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lessismore said: Sense pleasure is our enemy, or more specifically overindulgence in sense pleasure It robs you of your spirit
Is this why your name is 'lessismore'? 
Not specifically, it is just from acknowledging that often we appreciate stuff more the less we have
When we got almost nothing we can truly appreciate what we have
When we have everything and take everything for granted, most appreciation gets lost
"the less you have the more you often appreciate it"
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
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Which is why I think evolution has either gifted or burdened us with "consciousness" that suppresses this bigger reality in favor of simple survival, a tradeoff that nobody ever bargained for...
Historically a few people have penetrated the illusions and passed on the knowledge. This is where religions come from, IMHO. The great trick of course would be to bring this kind of thing into consciousness without starting a new religion - because we all know what becomes of religions eventually. 
You come into your body and start using your senses and now you forget your real identity
But doesn't that mean that our senses is our enemy?
Sense pleasure is our enemy, or more specifically overindulgence in sense pleasure It robs you of your spirit
Moderation, compassion, patience, humility brings peace and understanding, those are the good virtues we should practice
We all get off this path once in a while, noone gets there permanently But many things help, exercise helps greatly, fasting does too - fasting brings you very close to spirit, nature etc.
That's not quite what I'm talking about, but interesting anyway.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21852725 - 06/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As soon as I smoked weed for the first time I realized psychedelics were not to be used to escape reality, they are to enhance it.
interesting input and I agree with most of it
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
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Yeah man if you deny pleasure your denying just another experience you can have that you might not have the chance to again, almost anything can be pleasurable depending on how you feel about doing it. guilt is all programming if your not hurting yourself or someone else you are not doing anything wrong.
all that said I do not deny the effects of fasting, exercise and all those other virtues that bring positive energy to your state of being.
This life has absolutely no purpose, we give purpose to life not the other way around. life just is. and here we are ^^
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Hypnotoad420 said: ps out of curiosity(and anyone else), do you believe the experience given by psychedelics can only be a state of being obtained by partaking or do you think we can reach similar states naturally?
I have read some mild cases of hppd that just might be what I would consider as sixth sense developments of our actual reality based on experience in our visual and mental fields; I have read people claim they can almost "play" with the effects seeing aura's and hearing auditory hallucinations( and others are seriously effected ). may I open everyone to the possibility of Clairaudience and ESP? I am only smart because I know that I know nothing but what I see I see, and what I feel I feel, and what I experience I experience, By those things alone one could concur they are quite "Real" without even adding the possibility and fact that these things have occurred without these tools added. but for most that would get into touching generation upon generation upon countless generation where we have been programmed how and what to think that the mentioning of such things usually invoke movies, child fantasies, or science fiction.
I dont think impossible is a universal concept, its a self limitation that has been broken time and time again as human history has unfolded.
I-Magi-Nation 
There is some congruency between psychedelic states and natural religious states, especially Buddhist realization and Taoist teachings of the great Way. When I say "some" though I'm trying to qualify the differences in the experiential description that I've read in various sources, and of course my own experience, at least with Buddhism.
I think that there's an underlying state in humans that can be accessed (to different degrees) through these pathways. And it reveals a far more complex and unruly universe than the one we imagine we inhabit, with the ordinary mundane reality being a construct of our brains that "paves over" the true chaos underneath. I've been in direct contact with this underlying state quite a few times now, and it's literally mind-blowing - your ordinary mind does NOT function there, can not function. It's exactly like waking up to a bigger reality.
Which is why I think evolution has either gifted or burdened us with "consciousness" that suppresses this bigger reality in favor of simple survival, a tradeoff that nobody ever bargained for...
Historically a few people have penetrated the illusions and passed on the knowledge. This is where religions come from, IMHO. The great trick of course would be to bring this kind of thing into consciousness without starting a new religion - because we all know what becomes of religions eventually. 

Its both PS, Gift and Burden. Its just the duality of existence in this universe
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Duality is another illusion, stems from the separation from the source that limited consciousness creates. But I think I'm preaching to the choir, so I'll just STFU now.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Good or bad ? dunno
But in spiritual view, transcendence of the ego, there are certainly right and wrong ways to apply the knowledge
The ego can only handle so much information, so if you take the transpersonal energy and apply it to the ego, the person gets crazy , destroys the world
Love is always a higher energy than hate spiritually , a person who lives with hate will not be able to see the truth , only the truth they justify for themselves
So therefore I proclaim there are truths , many use duality as a way to say there is 'no good or bad' and 'no truth' - then they can justify their own bad actions, or self serving, but indeed there seems to be universal truths in this universe that we can not lie away
We can hide those truths from ourselves, but that doesn't make them lesser truths
Not everyone sees those truths, that doesn't make them lesser truths either
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Hypnotoad420 said: Yeah man if you deny pleasure your denying just another experience you can have that you might not have the chance to again, almost anything can be pleasurable depending on how you feel about doing it. guilt is all programming if your not hurting yourself or someone else you are not doing anything wrong.
all that said I do not deny the effects of fasting, exercise and all those other virtues that bring positive energy to your state of being.
This life has absolutely no purpose, we give purpose to life not the other way around. life just is. and here we are ^^
I'm not saying you must abandon all pleasure alltogether, although some monks seem to believe so in order to free the mind fully
I'm speaking about moderation, which is also very hard to achieve
Those that think moderation is easy, are usually the ones that don't moderate? I've never seen one yet who thinks moderation is easy
If we meditate enough , moderation comes naturally, but as soon as we forget to meditate / be mindful enough, we're back to ignorance
Self realization is also about realizing your shadow side, all your ignorance, it isn't pretty, knowing most of your common mistakes
And the typical mistake of man is sense overindulgence, robs us of our spirit, you could say that is what the devil wants
Sex feels good, more sex must be more good Beer feels good, more beer must be more good Tv feels good, bigger tv feels more good Cellphone feels good, more expensive phone feels better Psychedelics feel good, more / higher dose feels better and gets me more enlightened Food tastes good, more food is better Masturbation feels good, more masturbation is better Sex with strangers feels good, more sex with strangers is better Being better than others is good, showing off myself more is better
etc. - and 1000s more ways Very few people are themselves. If you are, you are one of the few
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: Good or bad ? dunno
But in spiritual view, transcendence of the ego, there are certainly right and wrong ways to apply the knowledge
The ego can only handle so much information, so if you take the transpersonal energy and apply it to the ego, the person gets crazy , destroys the world
Love is always a higher energy than hate spiritually , a person who lives with hate will not be able to see the truth , only the truth they justify for themselves
So therefore I proclaim there are truths , many use duality as a way to say there is 'no good or bad' and 'no truth' - then they can justify their own bad actions, or self serving, but indeed there seems to be universal truths in this universe that we can not lie away
We can hide those truths from ourselves, but that doesn't make them lesser truths
Not everyone sees those truths, that doesn't make them lesser truths either
Ego doesn't achieve transcendence, inasmuch as it arises directly from duality, or separation from the source (the ground of being). When you reach the source you just know.
But you can speak these truths to those who don't see them and literally they can't hear them.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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True .. :-)
Transcendence to me - not a word I use often - means elimination of ego in most communication/ones life
Going beyond ego, because we still got an ego, but we acknowledge the origin of thought, is it the ego , or is it from source?
Soul is all the soul sees Ego is all the ego sees
Sounds egoistical, but it's true ;-P
The only time we don't speak truth is when we are not in contact with our core being.., but that can happen to most people
Any lie hurts ones core being it seems, even white lies apparently, I don't remember any good lies I've made
It's easy to forget oneself, and then we cannot see any truth anymore, "truth is fake/for losers/for illusioned people"
I like the feeling when I feel my own soul and other's, that oneness feeling, and even the unpleasant oneness feeling of feeling a somewhat "lost soul", a soul that is not too happy
Knowing oneself is not always funny, but still worthwhile
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21855545 - 06/25/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oneness is good.
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oneness of living beings and Buddhas (Jpn shōbutsu-funi or shōbutsu-ichinyo): Also, oneness of ordinary people and Buddhas, or non-duality of living beings and Buddhas.
The principle that living beings and Buddhas are not two different things but are essentially one. “Living beings” here indicates life in its unenlightened form, or beings who are afflicted with delusion. This principle is set forth in several Mahayana Buddhist scriptures. The Flower Garland Sutra states, “The mind, the Buddha, and all living beings—these three things are without distinction.” The Nirvana Sutra states, “All living beings alike possess the Buddha nature.”
The Lotus Sutra reveals the true aspect of all phenomena, indicating that, though different, all living beings, the Buddha included, are manifestations of the ultimate reality. The sutra also reads, “The Buddhas . . . wish to open the door of Buddha wisdom to all living beings . . . to induce living beings to enter the path of Buddha wisdom,” because Buddha wisdom is inherent in all living beings, i.e., all living beings are potential Buddhas. In China, based on the Lotus Sutra, T’ien-t’ai (538–597) set forth the principle of the mutual possession of the Ten Worlds, from Buddhahood through hell, and the doctrine of three thousand realms in a single moment of life.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21855644 - 06/25/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not much into buddhism lately, but it rings a bell or two
It just really hurts to feel others who are not in tune with themselves, even when I try my best
The less balanced, the more it hurts
I don't remember getting hurt when fully balanced, but we all get off balance once in a while, this time due to pain pills
I feel everybody's emotions all the time, that can be quite unpleasant, but a weekly nature session helps at least
I also don't feel good around all people, my dad keeps saying that is unnatural "a true buddhist" feels good around anyone
There are certain people I just cannot be around, I feel really good as soon as I leave their place, and it is people in my family mostly
Luckily there is noone forcing me to keep contact... It is funny it seems my friends have been more realized their whole life than most of my family, less overemotional, more faith in the universe etc. I often need a little break from my family now, but I always did even before taking psychedelics
Nothing has changed, yet everything has changed, I am who I always have been
Same as before ;-) , and that I doesn't go well with everybody, but most people I can be around most, but I don't feel good around all. I chose to be with people I feel good around.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21855693 - 06/25/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Still know my friend I've known since 3 years old, he feels more mature than my mom,dad,brother - and always felt like that
I'm not so sure I believe in coincidences much anymore
Seems people are here to learn different things..
I got something to learn, my family got, and my friend has his own things to learn But apparently lots of stuff looks preserved over lifetimes
I haven't changed inside my whole life My brother hasn't, he is still the opposite of me, but he had some kind of awakening lately it seems, started meditating
Awakening throws you of a bit emotionally too, especially from feeling other people's emotions
You are on level with all you know/speak to daily, it is not coincidence We meet people like ourselves, in strange ways - I've had plenty of such synchronicities lately/past 3 years
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
#21855770 - 06/25/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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To the one speaking about developing the experience of the psychedelics:
meditation in nature crystals houseplants/pets service to others
The psychedelics teach to be self sufficient to those that listen, so if you listen they will teach you your ways to your spirituality I like guided meditations too, can clear ones energy blockages a lot, can actually feel it when it happens, can be intense emotionally or such
There are lots of ways, and synchronicity/psychedelics/your spirituality will lead you to it
They only show you yourself, they cannot force change you
Follow your inner feelings
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: PrimalSoup]
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lessismore said: Good or bad ? dunno
But in spiritual view, transcendence of the ego, there are certainly right and wrong ways to apply the knowledge
The ego can only handle so much information, so if you take the transpersonal energy and apply it to the ego, the person gets crazy , destroys the world
Love is always a higher energy than hate spiritually , a person who lives with hate will not be able to see the truth , only the truth they justify for themselves
So therefore I proclaim there are truths , many use duality as a way to say there is 'no good or bad' and 'no truth' - then they can justify their own bad actions, or self serving, but indeed there seems to be universal truths in this universe that we can not lie away
We can hide those truths from ourselves, but that doesn't make them lesser truths
Not everyone sees those truths, that doesn't make them lesser truths either
Ego doesn't achieve transcendence, inasmuch as it arises directly from duality, or separation from the source (the ground of being). When you reach the source you just know.
But you can speak these truths to those who don't see them and literally they can't hear them.
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
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Hypnotoad420 said: Yeah man if you deny pleasure your denying just another experience you can have that you might not have the chance to again, almost anything can be pleasurable depending on how you feel about doing it. guilt is all programming if your not hurting yourself or someone else you are not doing anything wrong.
all that said I do not deny the effects of fasting, exercise and all those other virtues that bring positive energy to your state of being.
This life has absolutely no purpose, we give purpose to life not the other way around. life just is. and here we are ^^
I'm not saying you must abandon all pleasure alltogether, although some monks seem to believe so in order to free the mind fully
I'm speaking about moderation, which is also very hard to achieve
Those that think moderation is easy, are usually the ones that don't moderate? I've never seen one yet who thinks moderation is easy
If we meditate enough , moderation comes naturally, but as soon as we forget to meditate / be mindful enough, we're back to ignorance
Self realization is also about realizing your shadow side, all your ignorance, it isn't pretty, knowing most of your common mistakes
And the typical mistake of man is sense overindulgence, robs us of our spirit, you could say that is what the devil wants
Sex feels good, more sex must be more good Beer feels good, more beer must be more good Tv feels good, bigger tv feels more good Cellphone feels good, more expensive phone feels better Psychedelics feel good, more / higher dose feels better and gets me more enlightened Food tastes good, more food is better Masturbation feels good, more masturbation is better Sex with strangers feels good, more sex with strangers is better Being better than others is good, showing off myself more is better
etc. - and 1000s more ways Very few people are themselves. If you are, you are one of the few
I see what your saying, But I checked that part of my ego out at the door a while ago, we had a nice conversation about hogging the driver seat ^^, I know nothing more true then what I touch and what I see and neither do you. can you handle that? what makes you think your right? who told you? what if at the end of it all you learn you were supposed to just have fun and there were no rules to the engagement of life? would you regret moderation? maybe? I hate to say YOLO because people mainly use it as an excuse to do stupid shit; you could and might assume that but you can also interpret it to live void of regrets so you remain mindful of the decisions you make and the experiences you choose to have. see what im getting at? the shift in perception.
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I trust my experience
I also don't see purposelessness, I don't see any coincidences
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Re: Psychedelic Synchronicities [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: I trust my experience
I also don't see purposelessness, I don't see any coincidences
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