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The Doobie Dude


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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: Jufin] 1
#21846825 - 06/23/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I honestly can't tell if you are trolling?
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21846881 - 06/23/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jufin said: What do you mean clinical? A doctor's stamp of approval? I'm talking about something that for over ten years has seriously made me consider if I want to keep living or not.
That works. With some of the responses I get the impression that people are just talking about the occasional blues. Exercise and healthy food, I mean, really? I play basketball 5 times a week and eat the best food around. It doesn't relieve anything. I'm sure I'd feel worse if I didn't do it but in the end it's what was mentioned earlier... Day to day recurring thought patterns that aren't doing me any good.
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Jufin


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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21846983 - 06/23/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exercise and healthy food do a shitload of good. Depends on your body type too. My body type needs regular exercise to keep the testosterone flowing. Also, less sleep is better than more sleep.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: Zombi3]
#21847005 - 06/23/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: More excercise plus less drugs plus piracetam and noopept.
Mssively helped my social anxiety, daily depression, and ptsd.
Piracetam is a boss compound, I love it.
What Noopept dosage you on man? I bought some caps recently and have been taking one cap (10mg) each morning for about 2 weeks. Fucked with piracetam prior to noopept but didn't feel any effects whatsoever.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21847022 - 06/23/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: I honestly can't tell if you are trolling?
I'm not trolling.
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jsncrs
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: Jufin]
#21847220 - 06/23/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've dealt with anxiety and subsequent depression on and off for a majority of my life.
Got prescribed Lexapro but tapered myself off about 6 months in after doing my own research on SSRI's. Honestly feel like that shit did me some permanent damage.
Things that I've found worked for me:
- Bodybuilding and a healthy diet are absolutely top of my list. Pushing yourself to the point of failure and seeing your body transform before your eyes. Our bodies are designed to be put under physical stress, leading a sedentary lifestyle is not natural so it makes sense that doing so will lead to feeling like shit, both physically and mentally. Extra attention from the ladies is also a plus and does wonders for your self confidence. Girls obviously notice physical changes, but they also pick up on a hormonal level, and seem to be able to sense the extra testosterone your body is producing. I'd always heard exercise was the best cure for depression but was always skeptical. I'm now 4 years in and absolutely convinced that it's true. If I'm ever feeling down, anxious, depressed, upset, I head straight to the gym, pump some viking metal, get those endogenous feel good chemicals pumping and lift some heavy shit til I'm ready to collapse. Walking out of the gym, every other aspect of life just seems easier.
- Learning. Reading, watching documentaries, learning new skills. Just as important as physical exercise is exercising your brain. Our world is a fascinating place and I love learning new shit I didn't know about.
- Supplements. I've experimented with tons of supps to find what works best for me. I currently take L-Theanine for mood enhancement, Vitamin D3, also shown to have effects on depression, particularly helpful if you work indoors and can't get much natural light. Krill Oil, lots of benefits. Noopept, for cognitive enhancement. I also take Valerian Root & Melatonin for relaxation in the evenings.
- Psychedelics. (We all know the benefits here)
- Taking on the "Yes Man" mentality. Forcing myself to do shit. If a friend asks me to go somewhere or do something, I always try to do it. You never know what kind of crazy adventure you might end up on.
- Finally, Podcasts. The Joe Rogan experience in particular. Changed my way of thinking on a lot of things and opened the door to a world of new hobbies and interests I never knew I had. Listening to in depth conversations with scientists, philosophers and experts from a variety of fields made me realize that our world, our universe and our existence truly is mysterious and magical, and that life is a gift and something to be treasured.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: jsncrs]
#21847233 - 06/23/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good post.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: Jufin]
#21847579 - 06/23/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The point of goals is to reach them. It's the acknowledgement of all the work you need to do, at least that's the similar ground we stood on? I intend to reach mine too. MMA, singing/guitar, career advancement, solidifying and expanding my friend circle.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: MoxyOx]
#21847616 - 06/23/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think I have an insightful question, as I know I'm guilty of it, too...
There are a lot of suggestions for doing things to completion on here, and I love starting something and hate finishing it..
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: space walk]
#21847630 - 06/23/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like a lot of the things we do to alleviate our depression is actually a way to go a little bit longer without dealing with it. It's good to note here, that taking a break from what drives us sad can be the equivalent of taking a foothold in life. It's hard to get that foothold after you've been down for a long time.
Maybe there are deeper ways to help us feel better, other than adding new activities to our everyday routines.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: space walk]
#21847640 - 06/23/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sometimes...sometimes it's just a good idea to feel sad. You can't be happy all the time, we all go through fluctuations. We are not machines that have a steady rhythm, we go through cycles.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: space walk]
#21847661 - 06/23/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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space walk said: I feel like a lot of the things we do to alleviate our depression is actually a way to go a little bit longer without dealing with it. It's good to note here, that taking a break from what drives us sad can be the equivalent of taking a foothold in life. It's hard to get that foothold after you've been down for a long time.
Maybe there are deeper ways to help us feel better, other than adding new activities to our everyday routines.
At the same time, the more you think about it, the more it's there. So by doing things that alleviate it, you're stopping it. So it's a paradox. But also, if you are in denial about something, or you need to deal with something in particular that you haven't, then this must be taken care of, acknowledged, and acted upon.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: Jufin]
#21847704 - 06/23/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good point, Jufin.
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Re: Depression: What Has (and Hasn't) Worked for You? [Re: space walk]
#21858137 - 06/26/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What helped me was defining what depression really was and what it meant to me.
Depression really just means less options, you are depressed. Locked into a pattern of thought with minimal options to get out of it. When I started analyzing what caused my depression, I traced it back to my back injury that makes things now very difficult to do.
What I am getting to was, I had a "Sudden Change in Perspective, or SCV". I convinced myself that it was not only I, but what seemed like almost all other depressed people had in common. We all had a SCV that we are having problems coping with. It could of been a childhood trauma that shifted it, or something like a injury like what happened to me.
Recognizing this and realizing that the one who you called yourself is dead and it is time to be reborn into a new person. The more you cling onto your previous reality, the more depressed you become. Not overcoming these SCV's over long periods of time, or even the sudden ones will render you depressed.
What helped the most for me was using LSD and psilocybin to allow my brain to adopt a new change in perspective more easily, almost like a reset switch. It works, and it works well. I suppose you can do this by yourself if can make use of my method. I understand it is not every bodies route, but it might help for some.
The illusion of a single path for everybody is just that.. An illusion. Nobody knows, we only have ideas. Start studying the brain and learning what depression is and experiment with flotation tanks and meditation.
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