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what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe?
    #21819145 - 06/17/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

so i was givin a contamanated pan cyan jamaica syringe and i contacted the vendor which i will not say cause it would be wrong but any way i contacted them and told them that the syringe was contamanated and i was seeking a replacement or refund and they replied with we sell our spores for mircroscopy purposes only and if you were usisng it for those purposes it would not matter if it was sterile or not please do not contact us again. This vendor is also on the shroomey trusted vendor list so i thought i would have no issue on getting a replacement/refund so again i ask when this happens and i get a bunk syringe what do i say to said vendors?

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819154 - 06/17/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819168 - 06/17/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Mabey they prefer code talk.

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: Matt87]
    #21819185 - 06/17/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Mabey they prefer code talk.

Can I get more of those t shirts? No seeds! Last weeks shirts were full of seeds!

Like that. But for shrooms.



lol

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819188 - 06/17/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819190 - 06/17/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Woah, easy tiger.


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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819197 - 06/17/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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shobbylyfe696 said:
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RyeJar said:
Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question



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shobbylyfe696 said:
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RyeJar said:
Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question


sorry that did come out a little more rough than i had hoped but im kinda of frustrated with this vendor givin that i have done a lot of business with him and they cant jst replace a stupid syringe

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: Matt87]
    #21819199 - 06/17/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

If you mentioned growing to the vendor then that would be a typical response.

"I was viewing the spores I bought from you with my scope. Upon close examination I found the sample to be contaminated with what appears to be trichoderma spores. I understand that sometimes mistakes happen, and was wondering if you would be willing to replace the syringe in exchange for a good service review on The Shroomery? Thank you for your time and consideration."

But....they already asked you not to contact them anymore. So you're likely fucked.

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21819200 - 06/17/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Mine was goofy but a legit answer. Make the same phone call without saying anything about growing. It's incriminating for them. Just say all the solution leaked out before it got to you or something!


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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: Matt87]
    #21819220 - 06/17/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

ya i figured i fucked up in the first message but thanks for the replys ill be sure to remember that if this ever happen again

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819231 - 06/17/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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shobbylyfe696 said:
Quote:

RyeJar said:
Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question



:whippedcreamhead:
hell of a way to talk to someone who was trying to work you through your problem.

Edited by RyeJar (06/17/15 02:19 PM)

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819261 - 06/17/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

When youre working with agar anyway a bacterial contam shouldnt be that much of a problem
With the sandwich tek (or antibiotics) you can isolate a healthy mycelium, if there is any

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819264 - 06/17/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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RyeJar said:
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shobbylyfe696 said:
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RyeJar said:
Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question



:whippedcreamhead:
hell of a way to talk to someone who was trying to work you through your problem.



i kno man like i said up a couple posts that it came out wrong and that it sounded more harsher than intended and incase you missed that im sorry  i was jst looking for a easy answer  wasnt looking to have to explain my entire tecnique over a bunk syring that im already tired of talking about so i say again... my bad

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: thoraxx]
    #21819271 - 06/17/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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thoraxx said:
When youre working with agar anyway a bacterial contam shouldnt be that much of a problem
With the sandwich tek (or antibiotics) you can isolate a healthy mycelium, if there is any



ya i would have if there was any the 7 plates had becteria growing where solution was dropped and the only 3 that didnt have becteria growing no mycelium grew

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819285 - 06/17/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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shobbylyfe696 said:
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RyeJar said:
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shobbylyfe696 said:
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RyeJar said:
Are you a novice?  Most of the time when new growers thing the syringe was dirty it was their technique.  What makes you think it was the syringe and not you?


ok first of all ive had many grows and have only had one contam so far ever that was berfore my third flush second i knocked up ten agar plates that i kno are clean beacuse the othe 10 i made in that batch are all going fine with a different strain third that is not an answer to my question and fourth there is bacteria growing directly in the spots on 7 out of ten plates where i droped the solution does that suffeciently answer your question now eaither leave my thread or answer my question



:whippedcreamhead:
hell of a way to talk to someone who was trying to work you through your problem.



i kno man like i said up a couple posts that it came out wrong and that it sounded more harsher than intended and incase you missed that im sorry  i was jst looking for a easy answer  wasnt looking to have to explain my entire tecnique over a bunk syring that im already tired of talking about so i say again... my bad




Its cool.  I would say for this vendor you are probably shit out of luck if you did happen to mention using their products to grow.  They won't replace it now.  Get antibiotics and do the sandwich tek like thoraxx said.  It puts you weeks behind but I think it's your only option now.

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819293 - 06/17/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Just for shits and giggles can you describe the technique you used to drop the solution onto agar.  How did you prep your sab? pour or no pour plates? How did you go about sterilizing your syringe needle?  Etc....let's just make sure your steps are dialed in.

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: RyeJar]
    #21819326 - 06/17/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

lets not lol

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819363 - 06/17/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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shobbylyfe696 said:
Quote:

thoraxx said:
When youre working with agar anyway a bacterial contam shouldnt be that much of a problem
With the sandwich tek (or antibiotics) you can isolate a healthy mycelium, if there is any



ya i would have if there was any the 7 plates had becteria growing where solution was dropped and the only 3 that didnt have becteria growing no mycelium grew



As long as theres any mycelium growing, sandwich tek should work
Plop a round of agar from a clean dish ontop of the bacterial growth, the mycelium will penetrate it much faster than the bacteria
Of course if the contam completely blocked out your spores and theres no mycelium growing at all your only hope is antibiotic agar or a new syringe from a different vendor

fsre has some jamaican in stock right now, for some reason i never hear those guys and their fantastic work mentioned on here

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: shobbylyfe696]
    #21819368 - 06/17/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Cool.  Saves my time.

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Re: what do I say to a vendor when givin a contamanated syringe? [Re: thoraxx]
    #21819393 - 06/17/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

sry but my question has been answerd and not to be rude but im not trying to run you thru step by step what i do to knock up some agar and how i prep my agar when i no im doi
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shobbylyfe696 said:
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thoraxx said:
When youre working with agar anyway a bacterial contam shouldnt be that much of a problem
With the sandwich tek (or antibiotics) you can isolate a healthy mycelium, if there is any



ya i would have if there was any the 7 plates had becteria growing where solution was dropped and the only 3 that didnt have becteria growing no mycelium grew



As long as theres any mycelium growing, sandwich tek should work
Plop a round of agar from a clean dish ontop of the bacterial growth, the mycelium will penetrate it much faster than the bacteria
Of course if the contam completely blocked out your spores and theres no mycelium growing at all your only hope is antibiotic agar or a new syringe from a different vendor

fsre has some jamaican in stock right now, for some reason i never hear those guys and their fantastic work mentioned on here


funny you say that i actually jst orderd a new print of pan jam from them

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