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OfflineRabbit


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Bulk substrate help
    #21818584 - 06/17/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'll be going to my village and i plan to grow bulk can someone tell me the the ratios of different types of poo : straw i dont know what kind of poo will i have on hand: rabbit chicken cow horse goat but maybe ill have to mix different ones so it will be nice to know the ratios when i prepare my bulk, also ill be doing bulk for first time and i dont know how to prepare it i think of mixing the straw and the poos and letting them dry but i dont know for how long and under what conditions do i have to mix them regularly,also how long should the straw be cut and how much gypsum coffee should i add i dont drink coffee so ill be using new one straight of the package. After it is all dried ill stuff it in big cloth and put it to pasteurize do i have to w8 for the water to heat before putting it or not and what temperature should i use and for how long.After I drain it after pasteurizing for how long should i drain it and what humidity do i need and how do i achieve it ?


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21818691 - 06/17/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Use the search engine.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21818713 - 06/17/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I used it already there is just too much different information and i dont know which one to use and not everything i need to know is mentioned.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21818858 - 06/17/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Use it more, read everything you can.


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Redd Foxx said:
If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21818896 - 06/17/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The answers to all of your questions are readily available and easily found in the posts. I mean really easily found.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21818951 - 06/17/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Rabbit said:
I used it already there is just too much different information and i dont know which one to use and not everything i need to know is mentioned.





At some point you just have to try something and see if it works for you. Search for Substrate Calculator Spreadsheet and that should get you on the right track.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Fungus Mountain]
    #21819071 - 06/17/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How do u measure the amount of stuff u mix by volume or weight ?


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21819111 - 06/17/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Depends. But usually volume


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21819127 - 06/17/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

try this
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Horse-Manure-Substrate

manure of all grass eaters should be interchangeable for the most part, some will work better than others
with exotic substrates like that you will have to do your own experiments on additives and preparation

the shroomery could really use a no bump feature


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21819339 - 06/17/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've managed to learn everything through the search function. You can do it. I believe in you :rockon:


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: thoraxx]
    #21819360 - 06/17/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok this is what ill do ill mix the different kinds of poos i get with straw 1:1 and with 10% vermiculite 10% gypsum and 5% coffee then ill put them in a sheet and dunk em for 24 hours then ill get em out and spread them on the same sheet till they are completely dry after that ill pasteurize them for 90 min 75 C and then ill dry them trough the sheet till there is no water dripping when i squeeze but they are still moist then ill mix with spawn in monotubs is that ok ?


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21821812 - 06/18/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Rabbit said:
Ok this is what ill do ill mix the different kinds of poos i get with straw 1:1 and with 10% vermiculite 10% gypsum and 5% coffee then ill put them in a sheet and dunk em for 24 hours then ill get em out and spread them on the same sheet till they are completely dry after that ill pasteurize them for 90 min 75 C and then ill dry them trough the sheet till there is no water dripping when i squeeze but they are still moist then ill mix with spawn in monotubs is that ok ?



:facepalm3:


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: ShroominMe]
    #21821819 - 06/18/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stop what you're doing and read.


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Redd Foxx said:
If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21821937 - 06/18/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well this is what i got from reading all the different recipes out there


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21821950 - 06/18/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its just too complex to learn from posting in a single thread... This hobby requires dedication, trial and error. Maybe its just not for you :rolleyes:. If you feel motivated to learn, at least you found the site that will give you the knowledge. Take advantage of it and I assure you the learning experience will be just as rewarding as the fruits.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21821952 - 06/18/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Then you've been lazy about searching. You're teaching yourself microbiology, basically. It's not gonna happen overnight. I read for probably 2 years before I tried to grow anything and I still had a 75% contam rate. Granted, this was 12 years ago and we didn't have as good of info. Now you do, so read. Don't combine TEKs. Follow people who know what they're doing until you know what you're doing.

And that comment seemed sarcastic as fuck. That'll get you nowhere. We're not here to spoonfeed you.


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Redd Foxx said:
If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: Rabbit]
    #21821967 - 06/18/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You seem to be on the right track


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: shellzenone]
    #21821979 - 06/18/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just a heads up, I wouldn't attempt using poo, straw, or coffee on my first grow. Try coco coir, as it does not contaminate as easy.


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Re: Bulk substrate help [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21822600 - 06/18/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

36fuckin5 said:
Then you've been lazy about searching. You're teaching yourself microbiology, basically. It's not gonna happen overnight. I read for probably 2 years before I tried to grow anything and I still had a 75% contam rate. Granted, this was 12 years ago and we didn't have as good of info. Now you do, so read. Don't combine TEKs. Follow people who know what they're doing until you know what you're doing.

And that comment seemed sarcastic as fuck. That'll get you nowhere. We're not here to spoonfeed you.




I hear you on the 2 years of reading man.... that is about how long I studied before trying anything. Seemed to help tremendously too. Not saying everyone has to do it, but it sure as fuck helps to have an understanding before actually starting out. Had success on my first try as well.


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