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    #21818213 - 06/17/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey gang..

There May already be a thread like this, but I didn't see one right away. So, I thought I would make a post here for people to show off their pretty poppies. flowers, plants pods.. (ALL varieties), not just Soms'. Because Icelandics,"Mexican-milk-poppy", and "California-poppies" are pretty too.

I'll kick off the thread with a photo, of one of my soms, just about to bloom. (any day now), and Ill come back and update when it opens. (gets all excited) :eek:



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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21827066 - 06/19/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Update:
It opened this morning.  Am happy. . (rubs hands together and grins)


Can't help but have a devilish smile like Naruto.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21827591 - 06/19/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

today, the second one opened.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21844515 - 06/23/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey man nice posts. I germinated a few seeds about 4 weeks ago and have two small plants growing at the moment, they're only little (about 5 cm) and its currently deep into winter so unsure whether theyll grow good or not. Its my first time growing. Time will tell though! Flick me a pm sometime man


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: larna]
    #21845203 - 06/23/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.. In winter. . late winter. you can broadcast seeds. I am in the Northern Hemi. So.. I put my seed out in mmm..I think it was like end of Feb. Like end of frosts. and rainy here. I'll hit you a PM later. :thumbup:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21885224 - 07/01/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a new bloom today from a cross I did last year. The same violet flower you have pollinated with a fringed afghan. Here's the result :wink:



My first gig opened two days ago:



Massive pod inside :smile:


At the rate it's growing, the rate most pods swell at, it should be a true tennis ball sized pod... Very excited to see how it turns out :crazy2:

Papaver vanity indeed lol :cool: Anyone else have pics this season?


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21885341 - 07/01/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The plant the hybrid is on is doing well despite some crazy weather. 4 more buds visible, and 2 more still forming on new shoots. Can't wait til they're all open :smile:



Hopefully more pics to come :wink:

Hope everyone's having a great growing season! :thumbup:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: larna]
    #21885357 - 07/01/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey man nice posts. I germinated a few seeds about 4 weeks ago and have two small plants growing at the moment, they're only little (about 5 cm) and its currently deep into winter so unsure whether theyll grow good or not. Its my first time growing. Time will tell though! Flick me a pm sometime man




They should survive the winter. If they're able to reach the cabbage stage, they'll be just fine. They'll go dormant thru winter then start again come spring. The good thing about a fall or early winter seeding is they bloom earlier in spring, so less chance they'll die off early from excess heat.

Good luck, and happy growing :smile:
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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21885476 - 07/01/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The plant the hybrid is on is doing well despite some crazy weather. 4 more buds visible, and 2 more still forming on new shoots. Can't wait til they're all open :smile:



Hopefully more pics to come :wink:

Hope everyone's having a great growing season! :thumbup:




I see in your pic there that there are a couple pods that are kind of leaning over. I notice that a lot in pics of soms before. My question is - are those pods that have yet to bloom, or have already bloomed and are leaning over from the weight of swelling?


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21885788 - 07/02/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They do that before they bloom.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: elborito]
    #21886044 - 07/02/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Nice plants Den! Glad to see you had some success despite the heat :thumbup:

Those look nice, I really want to expand my varieties soon. I have some mixed seed I save from 3 or 4 kinds but I need stuff like gigs still, and all the others :crazy2:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: musiclover420]
    #21886130 - 07/02/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Going to sow out my poppies late this winter. Last year I grew my first poppy, grew too late/small pot I only got 1 pod. I have some different cv./var. this year and have been putting work into the garden beds.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: elborito]
    #21887134 - 07/02/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Going to sow out my poppies late this winter.




That's my plan this year too. I started some of mine indoors this year and they didn't transplant well and died, the others I planted direct sow outdoors never sprouted...


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21887795 - 07/02/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah Thanks ML! :smile: I really got lucky this year more than anything... My first planting in April was about 90% wiped out when we had a sudden heat wave out of nowhere in mid April. So these weren't even planted until late April/ early May. If they had the extra month to grow like they should have I think they'd be really something.

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I see in your pic there that there are a couple pods that are kind of leaning over. I notice that a lot in pics of soms before. My question is - are those pods that have yet to bloom, or have already bloomed and are leaning over from the weight of swelling?




Those are unopened buds, still forming yet. Some droop while forming, but all will bend almost completely downward within days of blooming. I like to call it a gooseneck lol. Seems like they're bowing their heads before the beautiful show to come :smile:
What's amazing to me is that the night before they bloom, they turn completely upward. They go from pointing straight down to straight up overnight, and pop open right at sunrise. It's quite amazing really... :smile:

Once open, they stay upright and the stem becomes very sturdy and strong to support the pod. After the pedals have dropped and the pod is fully formed, they shouldn't bend at all anymore. (Generally speaking anyway)

Here's a few pics of some buds in various stages. You'll notice a few are on longer stems, but bent over pointing almost totally downward. These should open over the next few days. Others are either still sticking out straight or just drooping loosely, those are still young buds not matured enough to open yet. Hope that helps :smile:




This next one should open tomorrow. Its clearly bowing its head, and has a long enough stem to support a pod/ flower. You can also notice a yellowing in the area where the bud separates. This is also usually a good indication it's getting ready to open.



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That's my plan this year too. I started some of mine indoors this year and they didn't transplant well and died, the others I planted direct sow outdoors never sprouted...




It sucks when poor germination occurs. Alot of factors could be causing it, perhaps it was too wet and cold, or too dry and hot... Most times it's poor seed stock, usually seeds that were stored poorly before you purchased or perhaps were kept in a damp area in the house... Many factors can affect a seeds germination time. Always store seeds in a cool dry place, and as dark as possible.

Cold shocking can help a lot. Place seeds in the freezer for a few weeks before sowing, it will make the seeds feel as tho it's been thru winter and is time to grow when they get into the warmer damp soil.

Planting alot of seed is a good way to go also. It's better to have too many and have to thin them out than to have only a few germinate.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: musiclover420]
    #21887850 - 07/02/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

Nice plants Den! Glad to see you had some success despite the heat :thumbup:

Those look nice, I really want to expand my varieties soon. I have some mixed seed I save from 3 or 4 kinds but I need stuff like gigs still, and all the others :crazy2:




Thanks buddy! Much appreciated! I think it was more luck than skill this year lol.

Jmo, but if ur gonna go for gigs, get the white n purple Tazzies. I've had great success with them with minimal effort, and they're very potent. The only drawback to Gigs is that they generally only put up a single pod :/ it's a hell of a pod but alot of space for one pod per plant. With the Tazzies I mentioned you get nice large pods, and usually get more than just one, so it's more worth the effort. They are definitely very heat sensitive though, at least IME anyway. But hey, if you're growing poppies you never bored with the results anyway lol :wink: I still get excited every year to see the new blooms... Here's to next season my friend! :irishtoast: 

Here's an updated pic on my first "Gig" this year. Taken this morning, all pedals dropped yesterday. Give this sucker a week and who knows how big it'll be... :hairmetal:



Does it make me greedy wanting more than one per plant lol :crazy2: :shrug:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman] * 1
    #21887959 - 07/02/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)








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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21889307 - 07/02/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There definitely is a lot of luck in gardening, unless you have grown so old and wise you have learned everything already :lol:

Even then so many factors can change...

Thanks for the advice too, I may try both out honestly. Single mega large pods and multiple smaller ones both sound nice. I want to try all teh poppiez out!

:awesomenod:

So beautiful they are.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: musiclover420]
    #21889690 - 07/02/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

TeeFizzle - Dayyuuummmm! That's a beautiful display... :like:
Colors are so vibrant. I wish I could get my pics to turn out like that.

The red one, is that a red Tazzie?


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21889744 - 07/02/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

not sure of the genetics, it was a surprise when I saw so many kinds.

I had just saved seeds from dried pods I had made tea with, especially the big ones.

even ended up with some small, early-blooming white ones from some of the small pods i had



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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21890347 - 07/02/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Denman said:Alot of factors could be causing it, perhaps it was too wet and cold, or too dry and hot...




First off- thank you for such a detailed response and the pics!
I'm pretty sure I sowed em too late and didn't keep em wet... I had no real idea what I was doing. Next year though - I think will be my year!

One thing I am thinking of trying is sowing a bunch this fall and letting them overwinter? Anyone ever tried doing this? I've read this might be a good idea for my climate since around here it pretty much goes from winter straight into summer. It goes from freezing to burning hot. If I do this approach though, is the goal to let them sprout before winter and then go dormant for winter and then take off in the spring, or is it for the seeds to hang out for the winter and then sprout at their earliest opportunity in the spring?


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21890857 - 07/03/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am going to try a late summer planting depending on when it cools off here, will be trying some in the ground hopefully but may need to do more pots for ease.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21894509 - 07/03/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

TeeFizzle- Thats a Persian White. All of mine grew small as well, they seem to flower very early if the weather is not just right. I think I had one the size of a match head lol...

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First off- thank you for such a detailed response and the pics!
I'm pretty sure I sowed em too late and didn't keep em wet... I had no real idea what I was doing. Next year though - I think will be my year!

One thing I am thinking of trying is sowing a bunch this fall and letting them overwinter? Anyone ever tried doing this? I've read this might be a good idea for my climate since around here it pretty much goes from winter straight into summer. It goes from freezing to burning hot. If I do this approach though, is the goal to let them sprout before winter and then go dormant for winter and then take off in the spring, or is it for the seeds to hang out for the winter and then sprout at their earliest opportunity in the spring?




Your welcome, no problem. :smile:
Both ways are good actually. If you plant them about 6-8 weeks before winter normally sets in in your area, they'll be a the right stage to sit dormant thru the winter, and continue growing once it warms. It gives them more time to grow, and produces earlier flowers, which might be good for your situation. From what I've seen, some of the biggest and most productive plants come from this method, although I've never done it myself.

You can also simply drop some seed before snowfall, and when natures ready, they'll germinate. I get alot of extra sprouts this way. Some do better than others, so thin out the weaker ones and let the stronger ones do their thing.

I'll be planting my first fall plot this year as well, so I'll see how it works out :takingnotes:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21895079 - 07/03/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever done any transplanting of poppies? I've heard a lot about how they hate being transplanted, but one thread I ran across (as well as a few others), they mention transplanting into beds. Just curious if you have any experience with it.

Here is the link to that thread.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21895870 - 07/04/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am glad to see this thread, is so active. Denman, You got some nice poppies. Awesome.  My first batch of poppies are done for the year. My second batch, is still a few weeks off. I staggered my sewing of seeds this year. My second batch is going to be my seed crop. I'll keep you all posted. Second crop is at the lettuce stage...no stalk spikes yet.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21913910 - 07/08/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am happy with how this thread has helped people with information and given so many smiles. Thank you guys and gals for your contributions. My second batch of poppies should be getting close to bloom, in a few weeks.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21913981 - 07/08/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever done any transplanting of poppies? I've heard a lot about how they hate being transplanted, but one thread I ran across (as well as a few others), they mention transplanting into beds. Just curious if you have any experience with it.

Here is the link to that thread.




I'm glad u tagged that link, there's some seriously good tek in there. The OP's plants are fantastic, and the info in there alone is worth it's weight in gold.
As for my personal experience, best I can say is I must not have the "skill" of transplanting them down quite yet... Doesn't work out so well for me. It should be noted however that the OP has a longer growing season, and a larger plot than most ppl posting pics here, so I would imagine their techniques and experience would differ. If I'm not mistaken the OP is in Austrailia, and mentioned having cool weather for a good period of time. I don't have that luxury either, so for me transplants don't work out so well.

To answer your question tho, I HAVE done transplants, and had success. I do it in clumps when they are very small - 2 -3 sets of leaves at most- and grab as much soil as possible from the area they started in. ( I've also move them right after germination, before the roots spread at all and that seems to have the same result.) Usually if I move lets say 10 in one clump, 4 or 5 will survive. I think the trick is to get as much soil as u can, and avoid disturbing the roots completely. Usually the seedlings on the outer edge of the clump die, and the inner ones live, so it seems to work for me in that sense.
The biggest problem I have with transplants is that they always get stunted. The ones that don't die will just sit, no new growth for several weeks, then they pick up and go. But since I also have a very short season, it makes more sense for me to direct sow and thin from there, as opposed to waiting for transplants to get over the shock.

That's just my personal experience, others will have different results of course. Google the name "Mr. Brown Thumb". He has some great vids on transplanting poppies, and other growing info. Maybe that will help.
A bit later I'll post some new pics.

Best of luck, hope everyone's having a good season :smile:

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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21914252 - 07/08/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

See, I'm not in the best poppy weather myself. We don't get a lot of cool weather. It goes from freezing to burning up in no time. So I was thinking that transplanting might be an option for me to get some plants out right in the window of time that they might enjoy. But based off what you are saying about the stunted growth for a couple weeks, I think my best bet might be what you do. Just direct sow and thin. I'll put a bunch of seed out this winter.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21923713 - 07/10/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cows' , you couuld try transplant, but whenever I have done that I experience some die back. experienced horticulturists however, can minimize transplant loss by giving them moisture and shade.. and slowly acclimatize to outdoor environment etc. The transplants, to me.. are much like lettuces.. I usually just direct sew them in the ground and say (good luck), till I need to weed and thin them. LOL


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21923878 - 07/10/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

These poppies are probably gonna just be tricky for me to grow no matter what. I can't grow lettuce worth a crap, either...  Sooner or later, I'll get the hang of it.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21924718 - 07/10/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ive transplanted with success you have to be very gently with them. also they need to slowly adjust to being outside, if not already. protect from hot weather if you have any and keep watered.


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    #21935008 - 07/12/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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These poppies are probably gonna just be tricky for me to grow no matter what. I can't grow lettuce worth a crap, either...  Sooner or later, I'll get the hang of it.




It's a lot of trial and error with transplanting anything really. The key to growing poppies in a warmer climate is shade. They don't need a full days sun as many people believe. Find a tree that provides shade thru the hottest part of the day, and plant there. The early morning sun and evening sun is perfect for them, and they'll thrive in the hotter weather that way. I've been shading mine whenever I'm home with a ridiculous tarp setup I made to keep them from baking in the 90 degree weather were in right now.

I'm in NJ, and were firmly in the summer heat, but they're still going... I'm not gonna argue lol
Some newer pics...


My first hen n chic:


These guys are seeping right out the walls...


Found a nice surprise today.... A gig was hiding just under my window lol:


I've come to a conclusion that the fringed pedal must be a dominant gene. Except for the gigs and hens n chics, these were all planted from seeds from last years grow. I grew Purple/ white Tazzies, Afghans, "Violets" (idk the actual strain, maybe Hungarian blue?) and a few Fringed Afghans. I collected seeds and labeled them from their respective parent plants and expected the same plants this year... Well it seems damn near everyone is fringed... Not that I mind, it just surprised me for sure.
I will say that the Tazzies are way more heat tolerant than before, so perhaps some of the Afghan genetic were passed on as well as the fringing pedals. All I know is there must have been a whole lot of cross pollination going no last year! :eek: I've got new colors and shapes I never had before :smile:




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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21936332 - 07/13/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all your valuable information in this Thread Denman, I love looking at your poppy-gigs.


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    #21941647 - 07/14/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks :smile: and You're quite welcome :irishtoast:

Of not for having others share their experience with me many years ago I wouldn't have a clue... The least one can do is pass it along :takingnotes:

It seems the season is winding down, hope everyone had a good year. For those considering next season, best of luck.... Soak up all the knowledge you can and enjoy the frites of your labor.
That said, don't over think it, lol. Poppies are fairly easy to grow, and if the weather conditions are right and basic nutrition/ water is there they'll grow like weeds. :smile:


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    #21944252 - 07/14/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Some of the first casualties of the summer... Ahh well guess the seasons about over :shrug:
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    #21946650 - 07/15/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thought I'd share some of mine


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    #21951389 - 07/16/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nativepeyotee - beautiful flowers, love the colors. What strain is that?

Is it Hungarian blue possibly? I'm asking cause I've grown them but have no clue what strain they are. In fact they are one of the parent plants of some of the hybrids I've got this year. I've been referring to them as "Violets" simply cause idk what they are... But I've got some incredible mixes of color as well as the exact same color scheme but with fringed pedals rather than solid.

If anyone knows that'd be great...

Another Question - anyone know how long periods of rain will affect pollination during bloom time? Again I ask because we've had rain for almost 3 days straight, non-stop, and of cours it seems the last of the buds this year all decided to open in the pouring rain... :rolleyes: I mean they just sprung open and got drenched instantaneously... I'm wondering if there's any chance they could still self pollinate while drenched or if they'll just die off and fade away like any other in-pollinated flower would. Thx for any answers or experiences with either question :smile:
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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21957038 - 07/17/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Denman- the strain was a cross between my Peshawar whites and Danish flags from last year. Also in regards to your question I think they will still self pollinate, it has rained where I'm at non stop for 19 days strait ( I know crazy right), and one of my pods started to get black spots on it so I cut it off to salvage the seeds if I could.  I was able to get quite a few from them actually the seedlings have sprouted in a germ rate test I did, so I think they can still self pollinate while in the rain that or mine managed to get pollinated while in a break from the downpours. The only problem I encountered is when it's really wet like that a lot the pods start molding instead of drying out like they are supposed to.


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    #21957172 - 07/17/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

By the way denman I really like the hens and chick looking variety you have. I tried to grow some myself but the seeds I got were bad and never sprouted:frown:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Nativepeyotee]
    #21958350 - 07/17/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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By the way denman I really like the hens and chick looking variety you have. I tried to grow some myself but the seeds I got were bad and never sprouted:(




Thanks Native, they do make beautiful flowers. Pods are cool looking too :wink:

That was my first go at hens n chics. I had the same problem tho, of about 60-80 seeds, only 12 ever germinated. Of those only 2 plants ever reached maturity and flowered. There's still a third living plant, but has yet to flower, and it's only about a foot tall at most. I've heard they can be really picky about germinating, and apparently their fickle about how n when they'll grow as well I guess.

Took this right before I cut it off the plant. It's actually got a purple hue to it... A vey good sign IME :stoned:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21958737 - 07/17/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Defiantly a good sign that will be some great tea material! Hopefully next year it'll be better weather and we will both be able to grow a bunch of different varieties! I grow a couple in my indoor garden during the winter but they are really hard to get to flower under indoor conditions( only successfully did it once they usually just stay like a small bush and grow no stems)  which is kind of strange to me since a lot of different cacti strains I grow love the indoor grow light but the poppies not so much.  I envy those who have greenhouses, I'd love to grow lots of these year round to play with the genetics of them. Here's what I mean by they stay like a bush.



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    #21962507 - 07/18/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah man, that's some crazy foliage in that top pick! The bottom pic looks like most cabbage stage plants, I'd bet if u hardened it off n moved outdoors it would flower. Provided weather is right of course. As for the top one, idk that's crazy looking lol...
There's a thread on here somewhere discussing indoor grows, and the consensus was to use red lights for growth, blue to force flowering. Idk much, if anything about indoor growth, not much else I can add to help there. But man I wish I had room for a greenhouse as well... Then again I'm probably better off lol...

Btw nice dinner plate in your sig there! Love it :thumbup:

Well, seasons all but over, so I'll throw up one last pic of the window garden. Think I'll name it "Field of Dreams"...


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    #21962602 - 07/18/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Love the window garden! And thx I found that plate at a antique store thought my peyote would look good on it lol And yep when seasons over the last thing to do to end it is kick back with a nice cup of tea and enter your own little field of dreams:tongue:


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    #21967862 - 07/19/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely a well balanced meal laid out there Native :crazy2: lol It really does look artistic as well... Nice little centerpiece.

Well since I can't stop the fever just yet ay as well post a few end of season "fun" pics... Here are a few ways u know your seasons over...

#1 Ugh, the rotten ones... Dang it, another one bites the dust. If it's not the rain it's high humidity...



Anyone remember crazy straws? Damn thing did a full loop, lmao...


Then, of course the biggest pods ever... Or the smallest Gig I've ever seen rather :crazy:


And well, idk what to say about this flower lol looks like it's begging to be put out of it's misery...


This was interesting... That's actual O oozing right out th base of the pod...:eek: it wasn't scored or scraped, yet there it is... **and uhh, a lil birdie told me it's definitely O :wink: lol


Btw NativePeyotee - did u say 17 DAYS OF RAIN? I just caught that, WOW that's crazy... We only had 3 days of actual rain but that was enough to do some minor damage.
The rotten one up top had a flower pedal left covering it that whole time, and it just destroyed it. I can't imagine that much water...


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    #22040910 - 08/04/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So uh, how's everyone doing lol? Any new pics, news or brags to share? This is the vanity thread right :cool:

Well, it's frickin August and 90 degrees or above every day, and yet these guys are STILL putting out flowers.... Maybe not the biggest and brightest, but damn this is crazy :crazy2:

Even in their final death throws they're spitting out shoots. To the lower left of the flower you can see another shoot/ bud that has yet to open... I'm amazed to be honest.



The plant is all but clinically dead lol and yet I get new color every morning... Amazing

What's everyone else up to? You peeps down south preparing for your season yet? Anyone up here prepping for a fall planting?

I'll be sowing my fall seeds in about 6 weeks, so basically I'll be pulling these guys outta the dirt and reseeding lol

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    #22040918 - 08/04/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm odd. I just uploaded that image yet it's saying deleted by original poster. Um, I didn't do that lol. Lets try this again :wink:



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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #22043877 - 08/04/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's doing it again. It says deleted for both posts...

But yeah, fall is sneaking up quickly, I need to start planning my beds for the winter. What kind of timeframe before winter would be ideal to plant? Basically, how old should they be before the first frost? Winter doesn't really hit here till right at the end of the year, so I've still probably got a few months till I need to plant I imagine.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22044520 - 08/04/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's doing it again. It says deleted for both posts...

But yeah, fall is sneaking up quickly, I need to start planning my beds for the winter. What kind of timeframe before winter would be ideal to plant? Basically, how old should they be before the first frost? Winter doesn't really hit here till right at the end of the year, so I've still probably got a few months till I need to plant I imagine.




You said you lived in a similar climate as me correct? If so then you should plant around November, at least from what I've read. I did a bunch of searching around and found a few things about growing poppies in my state and it said to sow seeds driectly in the ground in late late fall


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    #22044545 - 08/04/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

At least 6 weeks, probably better at 8. Seedlings can die off with a long frost, and snow would certainly be bad. From what I've gathered and seen (this is my FIRST fall planting as well.) they need to reach a good solid cabbage stage, then they'll winter over just fine. But again, I don't have actual experience doing it, this is just from everything I've absorbed over the years.

I watched a vid a while ago on youtube of a girl in Canada. She let her summer crop to to seed on the plant. More grew unexpectedly, and they stayed all winter thru many months of snow and deep freeze. Come spring they were way ahead of the game, and she had more than she bargained for lol  :lol:

So I'm gonna plant mine in early to mid September, depending on temps at the time. I don't want them to germinate in the heat, and possibly bolt or die off. Also don't wanna have winter set in too early and have that prob. It can be 80 on Halloween or 30 degrees, So it's gonna be tricky to time it out, but I do enjoy a good experiment :wink:

Good luck with yours though.

On a side note, check out the El Niño / La Niña affects. According to the NWS my area should expect a warmer and wetter fall than during neutral years. This may bode well for me in that it could give me enough time for them to set before freezing. I'm not a big believer in long term weather forecasts, but the El Niño this spring proved correct for what it's worth...

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It's doing it again. It says deleted for both posts...

But yeah, fall is sneaking up quickly, I need to start planning my beds for the winter. What kind of timeframe before winter would be ideal to plant? Basically, how old should they be before the first frost? Winter doesn't really hit here till right at the end of the year, so I've still probably got a few months till I need to plant I imagine.




You said you lived in a similar climate as me correct? If so then you should plant around November, at least from what I've read. I did a bunch of searching around and found a few things about growing poppies in my state and it said to sow seeds driectly in the ground in late late fall




Hey grownright, nice to see a new face in the poppy world :smile: Late fall or even early winter is fine to sow, but those won't germinate til early spring. It's still a head start for sure, so can't complain. :smile:
Unless I misunderstood, I thought cowsrmeat was asking about germinating in fall, and allowing them to go dormant thru winter. If I misunderstood my apologies Cows...

But, either way will work.
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    #22045549 - 08/05/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

These are from an older grow of mine back in 2007 in New Jersey. The second pic I printed and framed currently hanging in my house. If i remember they were supposed to be Dutch A1s



These below are from a grow I attempted this year(2015) in California but planted the seeds late and ended up with stunted minis because temps got too hot before it had time to grow in size and ultimate it bolted and flowered too early.




And below is a funny pic I saw on WebMD or some other similar website advertising some kind of weight loss, but the woman in the picture is in a field of poppies suggesting to me they implied opiate/opioid addiction was a good weight-loss treatment.



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It's doing it again. It says deleted for both posts...

But yeah, fall is sneaking up quickly, I need to start planning my beds for the winter. What kind of timeframe before winter would be ideal to plant? Basically, how old should they be before the first frost? Winter doesn't really hit here till right at the end of the year, so I've still probably got a few months till I need to plant I imagine.




You said you lived in a similar climate as me correct? If so then you should plant around November, at least from what I've read. I did a bunch of searching around and found a few things about growing poppies in my state and it said to sow seeds driectly in the ground in late late fall




Hey grownright, nice to see a new face in the poppy world :smile: Late fall or even early winter is fine to sow, but those won't germinate til early spring. It's still a head start for sure, so can't complain. :smile:
Unless I misunderstood, I thought cowsrmeat was asking about germinating in fall, and allowing them to go dormant thru winter. If I misunderstood my apologies Cows...

But, either way will work.
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Yes, I was planning on getting them to germinate in the fall then just chill over the winter. We rarely, if ever get snow down here, so that shouldn't be a concern. I'm in Zone 8 so I don't think it should get too cold for them, as long as they get to the size they need to.

Thank you both for your replies and advice.




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    #22050414 - 08/05/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds good Cows, good luck, hope it goes well. I'm hoping for a good start as well. Time will tell I guess huh....

Neuro- that's frickin classic! I'm stealing it lol... Too funny. But hey, not eating and puking ur guts up twice a day will keep the pounds away :douchewink:

Nice pic also, must look great blown up n framed! :thumbup:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #22055827 - 08/06/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey grownright, nice to see a new face in the poppy world :smile: Late fall or even early winter is fine to sow, but those won't germinate til early spring. It's still a head start for sure, so can't complain. :smile:
Unless I misunderstood, I thought cowsrmeat was asking about germinating in fall, and allowing them to go dormant thru winter. If I misunderstood my apologies Cows...

But, either way will work.
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Oh okay, so would it be best to sow in say October if one wants them to germinate in fall and go dormant through winter?
And thanks :smile: I'm new to growing poppies, this'll be my first year trying it. I've tried opium once, when I was in highschool from a real old school guy I used to buy my shitty high school mids from, lol. I loved it, definitely looking forward to trying it one more time, tea form this time.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: grownright]
    #22056931 - 08/07/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Denman said:
Hey grownright, nice to see a new face in the poppy world :smile: Late fall or even early winter is fine to sow, but those won't germinate til early spring. It's still a head start for sure, so can't complain. :smile:
Unless I misunderstood, I thought cowsrmeat was asking about germinating in fall, and allowing them to go dormant thru winter. If I misunderstood my apologies Cows...

But, either way will work.
Den




Oh okay, so would it be best to sow in say October if one wants them to germinate in fall and go dormant through winter?
And thanks :smile: I'm new to growing poppies, this'll be my first year trying it. I've tried opium once, when I was in highschool from a real old school guy I used to buy my shitty high school mids from, lol. I loved it, definitely looking forward to trying it one more time, tea form this time.




Yup, u got it.... Of course it really depends on where u live and ur normal weather patterns etc, but that's th basic idea. The life cycle of poppies is approx 4 months. They spend the first 2-3 months (depends on weather) setting root and building foliage. It's the final 6 weeks or so that the magic happens :wink:
So you want to plant early enough to allow them to root well and beef up their leaves, but NOT long enough that they'll start the flowering process. I know all weather isn't totally predictable, but if u can guesstimate about 8 weeks before a true freeze you should be fine. :thumbup:

And you're welcome... Anything I can do to help just ask. I'm not the resident expert per se lol, but I share what I can. :smile:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #22078998 - 08/11/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

for indoor grows, i think you need to change the type of light to get it to flower, anyone had experience in using grow lights?


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