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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21890857 - 07/03/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am going to try a late summer planting depending on when it cools off here, will be trying some in the ground hopefully but may need to do more pots for ease.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21894509 - 07/03/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

TeeFizzle- Thats a Persian White. All of mine grew small as well, they seem to flower very early if the weather is not just right. I think I had one the size of a match head lol...

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First off- thank you for such a detailed response and the pics!
I'm pretty sure I sowed em too late and didn't keep em wet... I had no real idea what I was doing. Next year though - I think will be my year!

One thing I am thinking of trying is sowing a bunch this fall and letting them overwinter? Anyone ever tried doing this? I've read this might be a good idea for my climate since around here it pretty much goes from winter straight into summer. It goes from freezing to burning hot. If I do this approach though, is the goal to let them sprout before winter and then go dormant for winter and then take off in the spring, or is it for the seeds to hang out for the winter and then sprout at their earliest opportunity in the spring?




Your welcome, no problem. :smile:
Both ways are good actually. If you plant them about 6-8 weeks before winter normally sets in in your area, they'll be a the right stage to sit dormant thru the winter, and continue growing once it warms. It gives them more time to grow, and produces earlier flowers, which might be good for your situation. From what I've seen, some of the biggest and most productive plants come from this method, although I've never done it myself.

You can also simply drop some seed before snowfall, and when natures ready, they'll germinate. I get alot of extra sprouts this way. Some do better than others, so thin out the weaker ones and let the stronger ones do their thing.

I'll be planting my first fall plot this year as well, so I'll see how it works out :takingnotes:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21895079 - 07/03/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever done any transplanting of poppies? I've heard a lot about how they hate being transplanted, but one thread I ran across (as well as a few others), they mention transplanting into beds. Just curious if you have any experience with it.

Here is the link to that thread.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21895870 - 07/04/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am glad to see this thread, is so active. Denman, You got some nice poppies. Awesome.  My first batch of poppies are done for the year. My second batch, is still a few weeks off. I staggered my sewing of seeds this year. My second batch is going to be my seed crop. I'll keep you all posted. Second crop is at the lettuce stage...no stalk spikes yet.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21913910 - 07/08/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am happy with how this thread has helped people with information and given so many smiles. Thank you guys and gals for your contributions. My second batch of poppies should be getting close to bloom, in a few weeks.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21913981 - 07/08/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever done any transplanting of poppies? I've heard a lot about how they hate being transplanted, but one thread I ran across (as well as a few others), they mention transplanting into beds. Just curious if you have any experience with it.

Here is the link to that thread.




I'm glad u tagged that link, there's some seriously good tek in there. The OP's plants are fantastic, and the info in there alone is worth it's weight in gold.
As for my personal experience, best I can say is I must not have the "skill" of transplanting them down quite yet... Doesn't work out so well for me. It should be noted however that the OP has a longer growing season, and a larger plot than most ppl posting pics here, so I would imagine their techniques and experience would differ. If I'm not mistaken the OP is in Austrailia, and mentioned having cool weather for a good period of time. I don't have that luxury either, so for me transplants don't work out so well.

To answer your question tho, I HAVE done transplants, and had success. I do it in clumps when they are very small - 2 -3 sets of leaves at most- and grab as much soil as possible from the area they started in. ( I've also move them right after germination, before the roots spread at all and that seems to have the same result.) Usually if I move lets say 10 in one clump, 4 or 5 will survive. I think the trick is to get as much soil as u can, and avoid disturbing the roots completely. Usually the seedlings on the outer edge of the clump die, and the inner ones live, so it seems to work for me in that sense.
The biggest problem I have with transplants is that they always get stunted. The ones that don't die will just sit, no new growth for several weeks, then they pick up and go. But since I also have a very short season, it makes more sense for me to direct sow and thin from there, as opposed to waiting for transplants to get over the shock.

That's just my personal experience, others will have different results of course. Google the name "Mr. Brown Thumb". He has some great vids on transplanting poppies, and other growing info. Maybe that will help.
A bit later I'll post some new pics.

Best of luck, hope everyone's having a good season :smile:

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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21914252 - 07/08/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

See, I'm not in the best poppy weather myself. We don't get a lot of cool weather. It goes from freezing to burning up in no time. So I was thinking that transplanting might be an option for me to get some plants out right in the window of time that they might enjoy. But based off what you are saying about the stunted growth for a couple weeks, I think my best bet might be what you do. Just direct sow and thin. I'll put a bunch of seed out this winter.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21923713 - 07/10/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cows' , you couuld try transplant, but whenever I have done that I experience some die back. experienced horticulturists however, can minimize transplant loss by giving them moisture and shade.. and slowly acclimatize to outdoor environment etc. The transplants, to me.. are much like lettuces.. I usually just direct sew them in the ground and say (good luck), till I need to weed and thin them. LOL


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21923878 - 07/10/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

These poppies are probably gonna just be tricky for me to grow no matter what. I can't grow lettuce worth a crap, either...  Sooner or later, I'll get the hang of it.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21924718 - 07/10/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ive transplanted with success you have to be very gently with them. also they need to slowly adjust to being outside, if not already. protect from hot weather if you have any and keep watered.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21935008 - 07/12/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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These poppies are probably gonna just be tricky for me to grow no matter what. I can't grow lettuce worth a crap, either...  Sooner or later, I'll get the hang of it.




It's a lot of trial and error with transplanting anything really. The key to growing poppies in a warmer climate is shade. They don't need a full days sun as many people believe. Find a tree that provides shade thru the hottest part of the day, and plant there. The early morning sun and evening sun is perfect for them, and they'll thrive in the hotter weather that way. I've been shading mine whenever I'm home with a ridiculous tarp setup I made to keep them from baking in the 90 degree weather were in right now.

I'm in NJ, and were firmly in the summer heat, but they're still going... I'm not gonna argue lol
Some newer pics...


My first hen n chic:


These guys are seeping right out the walls...


Found a nice surprise today.... A gig was hiding just under my window lol:


I've come to a conclusion that the fringed pedal must be a dominant gene. Except for the gigs and hens n chics, these were all planted from seeds from last years grow. I grew Purple/ white Tazzies, Afghans, "Violets" (idk the actual strain, maybe Hungarian blue?) and a few Fringed Afghans. I collected seeds and labeled them from their respective parent plants and expected the same plants this year... Well it seems damn near everyone is fringed... Not that I mind, it just surprised me for sure.
I will say that the Tazzies are way more heat tolerant than before, so perhaps some of the Afghan genetic were passed on as well as the fringing pedals. All I know is there must have been a whole lot of cross pollination going no last year! :eek: I've got new colors and shapes I never had before :smile:




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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21936332 - 07/13/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all your valuable information in this Thread Denman, I love looking at your poppy-gigs.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: kizatzhaddarak] * 1
    #21941647 - 07/14/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks :smile: and You're quite welcome :irishtoast:

Of not for having others share their experience with me many years ago I wouldn't have a clue... The least one can do is pass it along :takingnotes:

It seems the season is winding down, hope everyone had a good year. For those considering next season, best of luck.... Soak up all the knowledge you can and enjoy the frites of your labor.
That said, don't over think it, lol. Poppies are fairly easy to grow, and if the weather conditions are right and basic nutrition/ water is there they'll grow like weeds. :smile:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21944252 - 07/14/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Some of the first casualties of the summer... Ahh well guess the seasons about over :shrug:
Some aborted buds that'll never see their glory... *tear rolls down...



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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21946650 - 07/15/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thought I'd share some of mine


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    #21946658 - 07/15/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)





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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Nativepeyotee]
    #21951389 - 07/16/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nativepeyotee - beautiful flowers, love the colors. What strain is that?

Is it Hungarian blue possibly? I'm asking cause I've grown them but have no clue what strain they are. In fact they are one of the parent plants of some of the hybrids I've got this year. I've been referring to them as "Violets" simply cause idk what they are... But I've got some incredible mixes of color as well as the exact same color scheme but with fringed pedals rather than solid.

If anyone knows that'd be great...

Another Question - anyone know how long periods of rain will affect pollination during bloom time? Again I ask because we've had rain for almost 3 days straight, non-stop, and of cours it seems the last of the buds this year all decided to open in the pouring rain... :rolleyes: I mean they just sprung open and got drenched instantaneously... I'm wondering if there's any chance they could still self pollinate while drenched or if they'll just die off and fade away like any other in-pollinated flower would. Thx for any answers or experiences with either question :smile:
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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Denman]
    #21957038 - 07/17/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Denman- the strain was a cross between my Peshawar whites and Danish flags from last year. Also in regards to your question I think they will still self pollinate, it has rained where I'm at non stop for 19 days strait ( I know crazy right), and one of my pods started to get black spots on it so I cut it off to salvage the seeds if I could.  I was able to get quite a few from them actually the seedlings have sprouted in a germ rate test I did, so I think they can still self pollinate while in the rain that or mine managed to get pollinated while in a break from the downpours. The only problem I encountered is when it's really wet like that a lot the pods start molding instead of drying out like they are supposed to.


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Nativepeyotee]
    #21957172 - 07/17/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

By the way denman I really like the hens and chick looking variety you have. I tried to grow some myself but the seeds I got were bad and never sprouted:frown:


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Re: Papaver--vanity-thread - - (pods-plants-flowers) [Re: Nativepeyotee]
    #21958350 - 07/17/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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By the way denman I really like the hens and chick looking variety you have. I tried to grow some myself but the seeds I got were bad and never sprouted:(




Thanks Native, they do make beautiful flowers. Pods are cool looking too :wink:

That was my first go at hens n chics. I had the same problem tho, of about 60-80 seeds, only 12 ever germinated. Of those only 2 plants ever reached maturity and flowered. There's still a third living plant, but has yet to flower, and it's only about a foot tall at most. I've heard they can be really picky about germinating, and apparently their fickle about how n when they'll grow as well I guess.

Took this right before I cut it off the plant. It's actually got a purple hue to it... A vey good sign IME :stoned:


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