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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21819306 - 06/17/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow,nice grow! :thumbup:


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21819307 - 06/17/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My hero :seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: jbaby007]
    #21819399 - 06/17/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for sharing.
Just seeing your success is inspiring.

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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: mastercultivator]
    #21819797 - 06/17/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some people can get great penis flushes without casing, but I was never one of them. I think it's dependent on genetics, considering a close buddy of mine(uncle_rico) get's AWESOME flushes without casing.

I have to thank a few folks(and killer cultivators) for helping me crack my blob problem: Pasty, Cron, Azur, Muda, Frank among some others. I spent over a year trying to really figure it out and these people all were a huge help.

This post shined a lot of light on the blob issue: Casing layer reduces PE blobs

So did this post: TheChief's Penis Jungle: Tribal Grow-A-Long

Hell, the organic Jiffy seed starting mix I used was sent to me by Azur. Thanks brother. I've yet to use the horse shit yet, but I've got tons of grain colonizing right now. Soon. :thumbup:



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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21820208 - 06/17/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

beautiful teg!:rockon:

ive never had blobs form on cased or uncased. but i have older genetics from back in the day. do you think the jiffy mix has any significance on yield?

have you attempted other casing layers?

i actually recently consolidated my first bulk tub of APE and all my fruits turned stubby and bulbous. i sometimes wonder, you have a bunch of different people working off of a nice clone. but get such mixed results. what is it different that they are all doing?

im thinking two variables. horse shit and jiffy mix might be beneficial. What subs does uncle rico use? ill have to look back through his threads.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: eatyualive]
    #21820237 - 06/17/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Uncle rico fruits his tubs outside if I'm not mistaken.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21820249 - 06/17/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes he does. but im wondering what magic is in the substrate with uncased tubs. hehe..


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: Couperj]
    #21820350 - 06/17/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: Big Bear]
    #21820593 - 06/17/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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beautiful teg!:rockon:



Thanks brother. :thumbup: You're one of the main reasons I got into monos when I started. I saw your pics and was all..."I am doing that.. I will do that some day."

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ive never had blobs form on cased or uncased. but i have older genetics from back in the day.



Then cherish your genetics man, cause the shit circulating from vendors these days is a finicky bitch.

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do you think the jiffy mix has any significance on yield?



Hard to say. Jiffy mix certainly has an effect on yields with this PE culture, because if I don't case it deep then all I get are about .5 ounce dry of impossible to harvest blobs. If I harvest, the sub gets so torn up that a good 2nd flush is impossible. If I don't harvest the blobs they rot and get pink mold. So for my PE, and a lot of the PE going around, casing with jiffy mix certainly benefits yield in a positive way.

Yours may or may not benefit. Why not crack them out and run some tubs with and without? And hey, if you want to send me some Penis I wouldn't be opposed. I've been collecting as many different PE spores from the boards as I could. I plan on growing them all out.

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have you attempted other casing layers?



Nope. I never used to case my tubs. Only reason I got into it was in an attempt to stop blobs. I've found I actually like to case my non-PE tubs as well.

I plan to try out casing with straight verm and coir/verm to see if I can get similar blobless results with this clone.

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i sometimes wonder, you have a bunch of different people working off of a nice clone. but get such mixed results. what is it different that they are all doing?



I spend a lot of time wondering about exactly this. I'll be growing cultures from Azur and uncle_rico. I'll be growing out Azur's PE identical to his, even with some horse shit he sent me, and then another tub side by side with my substrate style. I'm curious to see the differences.

I'm pretty damn certain things like substrate ingredients and casing layers will alter the way a culture grows. I've seen it in my own cultures over the years. Why is this? No clue. I'm just a cultivator, not a scientist.

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What subs does uncle rico use?



Coir/horse poo/verm/gypsum I believe. I sent him a link to this thread, so when he logs on I'm sure he'll come by and chime in.

He even mentioned to me that he noticed cultures performing differently depending on which elevation they were grown in, in regards to spore production. Crazy stuff! I love this hobby so dearly.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21820610 - 06/17/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i use verm/coir at a 50/50 ratio with a dash of gypsum. it works really well. i highly suggest it.:thumbup:

that is interesting. hope rico chimes in. ive actually got another grow log i need to show him soon!


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: eatyualive]
    #21820683 - 06/17/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i use verm/coir at a 50/50 ratio with a dash of gypsum. it works really well. i highly suggest it.:thumbup:



For your casing layer? I have no doubt that this casing layer works awesome, I just don't know if it would actually prevent blobs in a PE that is prone to blobbing.

If you ever make a vendor order, you should get some of the new PE stock and see what you can do with it- or I can send you a swab from my grow. I can guarantee you that it is MORE than willing to blob out, if conditions aren't right.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21820700 - 06/17/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: shellzenone]
    #21820712 - 06/17/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes coir/verm 50/50 ratio with gypsum as casing. ive used that since 2001. well i only tried the coir/verm with APE and it did not blob out. it did produce stubbies. i can link you if you want.

i like this statement here

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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: eatyualive]
    #21820739 - 06/17/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sure man, post a link. I, and I'm sure others, love to see it.

I don't care what gets posted in this thread, especially if it's penis envy related.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21820749 - 06/17/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ha just noticed your post above this one. this was the cased tub that was consolidated and ended up stubbing out.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21279700#21279700

ive got a ton of ape liquid culture right now so ill be throwing down on that thread fairly soon.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: eatyualive]
    #21820767 - 06/17/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I like when APE are larger/longer. Seems that most of the time they're smaller/stubby though.

I like growing PEU. They're pretty damn cool looking. Wish I'd taken pictures of them when I grew them. It was years back before I was into cloning/culturing, and I couldn't print them so I lost them.

I'll have to get some more APE/PEU soon. They're awesome varieties/strains.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21820822 - 06/17/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

agreed PEU is my favorite. it gets massive easily and i feel its easier than regular PE. ill pm you some peu pics.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: eatyualive]
    #21820903 - 06/17/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My PEU tub is in fruiting right now. Hopefully I can get some swabs.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: Grey]
    #21820943 - 06/17/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As much as I liked growing PEU, I feel PE classic is king.


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Re: Penis Envy clone monotub [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21821003 - 06/17/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Beautiful!

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