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Offlinepurplecap
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Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions
    #21817090 - 06/16/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First of all, I am aware of the fact that grow kits are basically ripoffs,I was not aware of this a few weeks ago when I paid for one, but alas, we learn thru mistakes.

Now my story: Decided I wanted to grow some mushies, skimmed thru the pftek tutorial, ordered a grow kit and some spore syringes. Meanwhile I became fascinated with this stuff and spent like 4-5hrs/day lurking these forums. Read about different methods, got a PC, built a SAB, got some jars, unfortunately mason jars are not an option here, got some polyfil, got some agar, got some coco, got some tubs. As Im typing this my first batch of PDA is cooling in the PC, in 4 different containers, similar to pastywhyte's method. Spore syringes and grow kit came in a few days ago, its the supa grow variety 1200ml. Now, knowing what I know I kinda shrugged off the grow kit as a loss, just did what the instructions said ( sprayed some water on the walls of the bag, clamped the bag up, abandoned the bag with the growkit in a safe place with ~30 degrees celsius and ambient light). But I just had a thought, I checked the mycelium and it looks pretty healthy, I can't spot any mold. Can't  I use this (which is basically spawn) on a coco coir bulk substrate and build like a mini tub ? Or is it too late/too risky? I figure I can make the most out it this way, if not no biggie, Im still going to try my spores on my agar plates and see what goes on. Thoughts ?


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21817114 - 06/16/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What sub does the grow kit use?


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21817168 - 06/16/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

by the looks of it, some kind of grain. I cant find info, they market it as some 100% mycelium bs.


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21817335 - 06/17/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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purplecap said:
by the looks of it, some kind of grain. I cant find info, they market it as some 100% mycelium bs.



Are you serious?  Send me a message, I'd like to check it out. :tongue:


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21817354 - 06/17/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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purplecap said:
by the looks of it, some kind of grain. I cant find info, they market it as some 100% mycelium bs.



:confused: seriously? Ug


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21817461 - 06/17/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They provide you with a pint to a quart jar worth of colonized rye grains, perlite in the bottom of the kit, colonized grains in middle, verm layer on top for 45-55 euro or more. Then they ship it off to you and laugh the whole way :smile:


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Yerow]
    #21817493 - 06/17/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If there are no knots on the sub, I'd go with making a mono with some coir. It'll give ya a much bigger harvest.


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Achillita]
    #21817782 - 06/17/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

purplecap said:
by the looks of it, some kind of grain. I cant find info, they market it as some 100% mycelium bs.



Confirmed rye

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Yerow said:
They provide you with a pint to a quart jar worth of colonized rye grains, perlite in the bottom of the kit, colonized grains in middle, verm layer on top for 45-55 euro or more. Then they ship it off to you and laugh the whole way :smile:




Nope, this one is just colonized rye.

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Achillita said:
If there are no knots on the sub, I'd go with making a mono with some coir. It'll give ya a much bigger harvest.




What are these knots you speak of ? Considering it's my first time working with myc, I might have a hard time knowing some stuff, but I am ready to learn. I am thinking of putting about 1/3 brick of coir into a mini tub and just tossing the contents of the kit in there, however I might mess up something in the process. If I wait for the first harvest, can I do this for the 2nd flush (if not I could try some form of casing I guess)? This way I will know for sure if works. Bottom line some yield is better than no yield :smile:
I would hate to mess up if I have some perfectly viable myc ready to fruit, just on account of greed :smile: Then again, the bag has no filter patch, storing conditions weren't probably that good, so I'm guessing if it survived until now it will survive a tub transfer as well. Im torn :smile:

In other news, getting ready for my first syringe to agar run. fingers crossed.


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21817836 - 06/17/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would just fruit them in the grow bags they came with.
I have had two of those kits myself, the made some reel good 1. flushes at around 300g
I would make sure to make som spore prints from them.

If possible I would make a clones on agar from 2 or 3 of the best mushrooms in 1. flush
My experience was that already from 2. flush the yield was pretty bad, like way under a 100g

If you have started from scratch, the kit have not bin a total rip off, as you would have needed to by som spore syringes anyway, those money is now saved :-)


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Peaceful Soul]
    #21818208 - 06/17/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The white balls are knots, they eventually turn into pins.

Don't wait until your second flush to spawn, it'll take a longer amount of time, and be more susceptible to contamination. What's the size of tub you're planning to use? 1/3 of a brick of coir isn't much.


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Achillita]
    #21820012 - 06/17/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hey Achilitia thanks for the help. It seems that there are knots present so I guess im just gonna go with it, maybe get a thin layer of casing for the 2nd flush. I'm not really focused on this right now as I think I messed up my agar setup.

I used 3 autoclavable 300ml recipients with filters built in and one of them warped (the bottom one). I did drop a few drops from a spore syringe in each one of these in a SAB but I think I might have boiled the agar or something. Anyway to tell if my agar media is not good ? My recipe was 4tsp agar 9tsp potatoflakes 1tsp honey 300ml water.

Any links to more agar threads are welcome (just point me in the right direction :smile: )


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21846320 - 06/23/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

update : learned more stuff also agar is fun
This is the kit now. Ready to harvest ? should I use scissors or a scalpel ?






Edited by purplecap (06/23/15 03:03 PM)


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21846377 - 06/23/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Use your hands buddy

just try not to rip out too much mycelium


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Charleskun]
    #21846383 - 06/23/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So they're ready to harvest yea ? I know a good time is right about the veil breaking, and that happened in the past 3 hours or so. Just expected them to be bigger (think i've been watching to much shroom porn on these forums).


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: purplecap]
    #21846393 - 06/23/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah id pick now, definitely. If you wait longer there will be spores everywhere and the caps will look pretty funky, not really any more growth from here. You still got more flushes tho!

EDIT

BTW thats a fucking nice pinset :popcorn:


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Re: Bought grow kit, meanwhile learned some stuff, now have a few questions [Re: Charleskun]
    #21846790 - 06/23/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

harvested, took 2 clones (crappy ones coz im a noob and cant handle a scalpel well yet), and a sporeprint :smile:


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