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OfflineHelloEvo
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Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened
    #21815683 - 06/16/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So I made two blends last week, one was about 250mg of caapi extract, 1000mg of spice, 1200mg of plant matter. The second batch I made at 1:1:.25 because I felt like I fucked the first one up by drying it in a dehydrator and burning off goods accidentally. Anyway I hadn't tried it yet because I was taking ephedrine, so I figured a week after my last pill would be enough.

I wanted to try both today. First I load up the weaker blend, about .075 and hit it from a bong. I got the typical dmt body load and couldn't even finish the bowl. I put my head on my pillow on closed my eyes, I'm pretty sure I got some CEV's but I don't remember because I took a nap right after, I felt slight nausea but it was nothing big.

After my two hour nap I loaded the bong with .75 of the stronger blend. I could immediately tell from the taste that it was much stronger. I take in as much as I can before putting the bong down and laying down on my bed again. This time the colors and patterns were pretty awesome, it was nothing mind blwoing, but more like a screensaver behind my eyelids, I was enjoying it. About a minute into that I started feeling nauseous. I also noticed my teeth were chattering against each other a bit. I got a trash bag because the nausea was getting really bad. I tried puking but nothing would come out because I hadn't eaten much since Sunday. It got to the point where I stuck my fingers down my throat to try and induce vomiting, still only dry heaves.

I felt my body getting hot, really hot. I turned on the AC and went to the bathroom. Within seconds I started sweating profusely. I was hunched over and there was a drop of sweat dripping off of my nose every couple seconds. It was exactly like I was in a sauna. A couple more dry heaves later and I could feel it going away and my temp getting back to normal. I felt pretty good afterwards, lighter almost, but it did scare the shit out of me. I also felt pretty drained (the whole thing lasted maybe 5-7 minutes) and took another two to three hour nap.

I've only smoked dmt once before this and I always get a little uneasy but nothing even close to this. Does anyone know what the hell happened to me and how I can prevent it from happening again?


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: HelloEvo]
    #21815820 - 06/16/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The only time I ever puked from DMT was from burning it.

Also high doses of MAOI will make you pretty nauseous, maybe your blend is too MAOI heavy.


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21815874 - 06/16/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I figured 25% was pretty standard and on the low side, I guess not. Do I just stick the changa in ethanol and add mullein/spice to dilute the harmalas?


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: HelloEvo]
    #21815915 - 06/16/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't know how to dilute it further. I figure just using more leaf on top of your changa bowl would work. You may be sensitive to your MAOI making that 25% actually a heavy dose for you. I can't tell really, I haven't experienced such negative effects from a standard changa ratio before. We need some more opinions honestly.

So did you preform the extractions and infusions yourself or was this changa a gift?


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21815971 - 06/16/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I wouldn't know how to dilute it further. I figure just using more leaf on top of your changa bowl would work. You may be sensitive to your MAOI making that 25% actually a heavy dose for you. I can't tell really, I haven't experienced such negative effects from a standard changa ratio before. We need some more opinions honestly.

So did you preform the extractions and infusions yourself or was this changa a gift?



I did everything myself. It took forever to find good caapi that actually gave me alkaloids. The dmt was taken from both acrb and mhrb (I mixed both of them).


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: HelloEvo]
    #21815998 - 06/16/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I figured 25% was pretty standard and on the low side, I guess not.




DUDE!!!!!!!!  That is far too much harmala alkaloids!  Try no more than 5% next time.  Your blend is not ruined, though.  Re-calculate based upon the mass you have left over and mix in the appropriate amount of leaf and DMT and NO harmala alks.

I also have a blend that is a bit heavy on the harmalas.  It feels like the trip will never end...although it always does.  Glad you are feeling OK and have recovered enough to write about it!

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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21816378 - 06/16/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I figured 25% was pretty standard and on the low side, I guess not.




DUDE!!!!!!!!  That is far too much harmala alkaloids!  Try no more than 5% next time.  Your blend is not ruined, though.  Re-calculate based upon the mass you have left over and mix in the appropriate amount of leaf and DMT and NO harmala alks.

I also have a blend that is a bit heavy on the harmalas.  It feels like the trip will never end...although it always does.  Glad you are feeling OK and have recovered enough to write about it!

N.B.



Really? I just followed this tek https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24592 ...I'll definitely try to figure out how I'm gonna dilute this stuff...I need to do another dmt extraction most likely because I'm not sure if I have enough. I was reading around and the lowest harmala ratio I found was around 25% so I thought that would be a good starting point, but maybe I'm just extremely sensitive to it.


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21816382 - 06/16/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The first time i smoke dmt i had those same exact effects. I was scared to go back in. IME ive found that after that first initial hit , which for me comes with the body load & nasaue im ok. The 2nd rip usually starts the OEVs & etc. I know exactly what u mean ! Just keep smoking bro


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: HelloEvo]
    #21817714 - 06/17/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What alcohol did you use to dissolve the harmalas?  I use ethanol.  It's way safer than the methanol and works fine.  Either way, your changa needs to be completely alcohol free, which can take several days.

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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21829002 - 06/19/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What alcohol did you use to dissolve the harmalas?  I use ethanol.  It's way safer than the methanol and works fine.  Either way, your changa needs to be completely alcohol free, which can take several days.

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My bad I thought I replied already. Since I live in the hippiest state of all (Cali) they don't sell everclear here so I had to go with this stuff called spirytus luksusow, which is 96.5% grain alcohol. It usually doesn't take that long for me to dry the stuff. What I do is I leave it in a wide shot glass until all of the liquid is gone, then I transfer it to a small glass dish until it's fully evaporated. It usually takes about 18-24 hours to get it completely dry. The reason I don't put it in the dish to begin with is because I'm paranoid about the surface area being too large and having spots where the goods dry on the dish instead of the plant material.

I'm waiting for the new batch to dry. This time I used 500mg spice, 600mg plant material, 25mg caapi extract. We'll see how it goes once it's dry.


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Re: Smoked changa for the first time and thought I was gonna die. Someone tell me what happened [Re: HelloEvo]
    #21829264 - 06/19/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ethanol is good! I use Graves, which is 95% grain alcohol.  If you used ethanol it seems an unlikely source for your bad reaction.

Good luck.  Report back on your progress.

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