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How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower?
    #21815381 - 06/16/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have seriously been considering buying a Dr. Dabber vape pen and buying a couple grams of BHO shatter and going to town. My idea is to save money. I could pay $80 for 2 g of BBHO. For $80 I could also get a quarter of bud, which would last me about two weeks. I'm hoping that because BHO is stronger that I'll be able to get higher with less, therefore conserving and saving some money.

anyway, how much stronger is BHO than just straight weed?


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: ipraytomushrooms]
    #21815398 - 06/16/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pot flowers anywhere from 5% to 30% thc. Shatter wax butter glass 70% to 90% thc. Approximately of course.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: DensePlacebo]
    #21815440 - 06/16/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its like 2 to 3 times more potent than good herb    gets ya all fucked up lol


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21815501 - 06/16/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It can make you feel like your first few times smoking all over again-for a while.

In my opinion, the high of weed is a little different from that of BHO. Seems to be lacking something on the periphery of the experience. I have no scientific way to back this up; I speculate it may have something to do with some other slightly psychoactive substance (terpenes?) being lost in the process of extraction.

So I want 'em both!


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Bozko]
    #21815536 - 06/16/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It can make you feel like your first few times smoking all over again-for a while.

In my opinion, the high of weed is a little different from that of BHO. Seems to be lacking something on the periphery of the experience. I have no scientific way to back this up; I speculate it may have something to do with some other slightly psychoactive substance (terpenes?) being lost in the process of extraction.

So I want 'em both!



I read an article I can't remember where, but it basically stated what you said. It is a much stronger high that hits much much much faster, more in the head than body and it lacks the mellowness of the whole experience. They didn't know exactly why but speculated it had something to do with the lack of terpenes and a couple other compounds.


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Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...
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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: DensePlacebo]
    #21815554 - 06/16/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.pans-ink.com/

This site sells purified terpene mixtures and claims that the different mixtures augment the effects of weed when put on and allowed to dry. 

The plot thickens...


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Bozko]
    #21815576 - 06/16/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If your BHO was properly extracted, all of the terpenes will remain


1 gram of BHO = ~3-6g of top shelf bud


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21815615 - 06/16/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If your BHO was properly extracted, all of the terpenes will remain


1 gram of BHO = ~3-6g of top shelf bud




Not true, depending on the solvent used you can recover about half the original content or less.

Unless you use super critical CO2 extraction, which does fully preserve the original terpenoid content.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21815630 - 06/16/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Certainly not everything will be extracted from the flowers because we don't live in a perfect world

But basically if your BHO doesn't smell like weed (almost as strong as well), you have shitty BHO


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21815646 - 06/16/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Certainly not everything will be extracted from the flowers because we don't live in a perfect world

But basically if your BHO doesn't smell like weed (almost as strong as well), you have shitty BHO




True, but what I was trying to get across is that there is a threshold for how much of the terpenes can be extracted and which types according to what solvent is used. Also the method I just mentioned is the most effective, however it isn't practical for most folks making hash oil.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Bozko]
    #21815713 - 06/16/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can you smoke terpenes alone on non-psychoactive plant material for effect?


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Bozko]
    #21815780 - 06/16/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

anyone have any experience with the dr. dabber vape? ive read much positive about it and very little negative, but Id like some words from you guys on it


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21815783 - 06/16/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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impatientguy said: gets ya all fucked up lol




this made me lol

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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Bozko]
    #21815785 - 06/16/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can you smoke terpenes alone on non-psychoactive plant material for effect?




No, it would just taste a little pleasant.

It requires some psychoactive to create the entourage effect.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21815864 - 06/16/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

With no tolerance a dab will get ME as high as a good blunt smoked solo. But the dab will only get you high for about half as long as the blunt.

The problem is tolerance, once you start dabbing,my our tolerance goes through the roof. There was a point where I was smoking blunt after blunt and barely feeling anything. Even dabs only got me so high, more tired than anything.

I've stopped smoking so much, only once a week or less. And one good bong rip of some weed has gotten me way blasted.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21815936 - 06/16/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

INVEST IN A RIG!!!! you will not regret it if you are seriously considering vaping BHO.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21816096 - 06/16/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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INVEST IN A RIG!!!! you will not regret it if you are seriously considering vaping BHO.




not the same convenience as a vape pen though


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21816275 - 06/16/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can you smoke terpenes alone on non-psychoactive plant material for effect?




No, it would just taste a little pleasant.

It requires some psychoactive to create the entourage effect.




Terpenes are psychoactive


They just won't get you high :lol:


But seriously though, terpenes have been shown to be psychoactive, usually anxiolytic in nature


Take linalool for example, one of the more prominent terpenes in cannabis flowers

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf900420g


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21816308 - 06/16/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Its like 2 to 3 times more potent than good herb    gets ya all fucked up lol




more like 4.5 noob


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Does]
    #21817262 - 06/16/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: ipraytomushrooms]
    #21817561 - 06/17/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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INVEST IN A RIG!!!! you will not regret it if you are seriously considering vaping BHO.




not the same convenience as a vape pen though




from my experience most bho vape pens are garbage. the taste  "off" and don't feel as good as a rig.

just sayin got for it if that's what you want but having a rig is worth it.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21823620 - 06/18/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well after a couple days of research i ordered a Dr Dabber and I will be vaping soon. would anyone be interested in a first dab experience report?

i have absolutely no experience with anything besides good ole classic herb, but i really can't believe ive been putting it off for so long. what is the high like? ive been told a good bho high is nothing like a bud high.

i would love to hear some first dab stories


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: ipraytomushrooms]
    #21823674 - 06/18/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

my first dab was out of a water hash pipe. the bho was pretty shitty made because the guy that made it didn't listen to me when i explained how its made properly because i was younger than him by like 10 years.

still very strong and i coughed my ass of for 5-10 minutes straight. got super stoned!

when i was very new to hash oil i smoke half a gram in a bowl of weed and i swear i got minor CEVs not sure how i have NEVER hallucinated on weed before but that was a strange day.

that was years ago and since i don't mess with bho that's shit.

first time i got high quality bho/shatter i took a giant dab and was stined for 4 hours straight which is unusal for me i usually only stay high for 1-2 hours.

eventually i switched over to bho and it was just how i used cannabis.

now im back to tree until i get back to Michigan. :frown:


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21823883 - 06/18/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

try rosin

bet you wont be coughing for 10 minutes and get just as high


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Does]
    #21823972 - 06/18/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i was dabbing a g a day at one point and never really coughed.. it was mainly the shitty bho that wasn't purged and was pushed through pvc pipe:rolleyes:

whats rosin?


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21824175 - 06/18/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

making hash with heat and pressure

its become a thing pretty recent

people squishing buds inside parchment paper with hair straighteners to get 100% pure hash

its also progressed to pressing impure hash through a screen into parchment paper to get 100%

other presses previously used for other things are being utilized as well


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Does] * 1
    #21824855 - 06/18/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



If you got properly made BHO, no amount of flower can get you higher than a dab.  Compared to flowers, there is no comparison.  Once you join the darkside, know there is no coming back to the green side.  It is an investment of other sorts as well as your tolerance.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21824888 - 06/18/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Holy fuck did you do a run on an entire pound of weed? I couldn't see it being possible getting that much BHO from trim/shake

Looks like peanut brittle lol


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21824894 - 06/18/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Holy fuck did you do a run on an entire pound of weed? I couldn't see it being possible getting that much BHO from trim/shake

Looks like peanut brittle lol




Was a half pound of trim.. Very high quality though


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21824918 - 06/18/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

they say for every gram of bho its an eighth of weed. would you say this is true.

im to last ATM to do the math. I know its simple but YAY LAZINESS!


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21824935 - 06/18/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that stuff looks pretty incredible

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they say for every gram of bho its an eighth of weed. would you say this is true.

im to last ATM to do the math. I know its simple but YAY LAZINESS!





Depends on a lot of factors

I generally find a gram of BHO is the same as about 4-5 grams of good quality weed. Even if your bud was like 30% cannabinoids by weight I still think a gram of BHO would be equal to more than just 3.5 grams of bud


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21824945 - 06/18/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

looks beautiful

but not everyone has the ability to make it clean, while anyone can go buy a straightener and make a 100% safe product for themselves


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21824956 - 06/18/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah that stuff looks pretty incredible

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they say for every gram of bho its an eighth of weed. would you say this is true.

im to last ATM to do the math. I know its simple but YAY LAZINESS!





Depends on a lot of factors

I generally find a gram of BHO is the same as about 4-5 grams of good quality weed. Even if your bud was like 30% cannabinoids by weight I still think a gram of BHO would be equal to more than just 3.5 grams of bud






It was a %21.8 yield.  The quality of the grow matters.  Indicia is best.  I have a guide that I wrote to make bho.  Same method used to make the patty.

Quality will affect your end product also.  You need high quality bud for it to turn honeycomb.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Does]
    #21824965 - 06/18/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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looks beautiful

but not everyone has the ability to make it clean, while anyone can go buy a straightener and make a 100% safe product for themselves




You can use just a hot plate @ 98° and achieve similar results.  It just takes longer and shit gets in it.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21825174 - 06/18/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if done right there isnt any contamination

i dont know about hot plates, but people are also using t shirt presses and seed oil presses as well as designing products specifically for it


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Does]
    #21825570 - 06/18/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

For me the high off of flowers is 100 x better a longer than bho. I've had great wax, shatter, whatever too. I went this route that you are thinking of

OP and it just wasn't the same so I ended up spending more money because I would buy flower and wax and it would last not as long as just buying straight

bud. Now I love hash, but only smoke it with flower. Personally I have been spending a lil more on better quality bud and just making a habit of not

smoking a joint/blunt all the time. Maybe once or twice a week with the joints now. Smoke one bowl of good herb with some good hash on top and that's all I

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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21826154 - 06/18/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you are smoking hash oil over tree youre not going to get as high as if you take a dab.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21826201 - 06/18/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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if you are smoking hash oil over tree youre not going to get as high as if you take a dab.



I think he means old school cold water hash.

I used to dab my face off and then go out and smoke a couple bowls or a blunt or joint, that way I got to the high I wanted from the wax, and then got all the goodies that were missing from smoking the bud.

The high would last way longer than if I just dabbed alone, especially if I used a sativa strain in my joint.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21826208 - 06/18/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I love smoking normal hash


Dabbing is kind of a pain in the ass if you're like me and just toke all day at the computer/tv. It is a process!


Normal hash though... I just throw in a little quarter inch chunk into my bowl and smoke it. It stays embered as well so you only need to light it once. If you let it ember it also burns at a low temperature, so the smoke is VERY smooth and tasty! Very tasty!

Weed is a bit harsh on my lungs. After smoking it daily for 6 months I noticed I had chest pains and was coughing a lot, almost like bronchitis really. After not smoking any for a few days, my lungs are back to normal. Definitely thinking of just buying bubble hash from now on though. I love that stuff so much.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21826221 - 06/18/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I had my rig ste up so it would heat up without holding the torch and I had my dabber and silicon pad and did it all day. breaking up weed was more of a hassle for me.

now its all I got...


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21826232 - 06/18/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah damn you didn't have a grinder? Makes things very easy

I usually threw a 1g nug in mine once a week and all I had to do is just take pinches of fluffy, sticky shredded weed and pack it


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21826243 - 06/19/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I used scissors but still using the grinder and separating it from the kief before dumping it on my tray and repacking it in my bong is more than what I had to do to dab.

and IME grinders steal my trichomes of the bud :mad:


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21826250 - 06/19/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mine has a kief catcher in the bottom to collect most of it


Every 2 months or so I will do an iso run on it and I would usually get a little bit (maybe 4-5 bowls) worth of iso-hash


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21827858 - 06/19/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I am talking "bubble" or "water" hash. Even when I have wax I usually just drop that on top of my bud versus taking dabs. I know me and how I feel when

high, and in my experience taking a straight dab does not get me anywhere near as high or feeling as good as when I just add it to flower. Dabs in a pen are

cool when you're out and about, but you figure you are smoking one dab in a pen over the course of how ever long it takes you (20 hits or so), thus when I

smoke only from a vape pen I usually never actually feel stoned. They're good for maintenance. People really shouldn't be so quick to put someone off from

trying a different technique of smoking just because of their opinion on what works and doesn't.  Give it all a try. Shit sometimes I will make a

joint in a copper screen then throw it around my soldering iron, insert into jar and attach a hose. GREAT high, pain in the ass though. I think the vape

high is very different from just smoking your shit, something to try out.


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Re: How much more potent is BHO in comparison to cannabis flower? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21828211 - 06/19/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah my bad i completely forgot how it affects everyone differently and people have different preferences. oops


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