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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Amanita86]
    #21817358 - 06/17/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it'll be cool to see what people create to bypass trans fat laws though. It'll be like the research chemicals of the food industry. And of course more soybean oil will be used. That's a plus.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: psi]
    #21817361 - 06/17/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Partially hydrogenated oils contain some proportion of trans fats. Complete hydrogenation results in just saturated fat with no trans fat.




That can't be true as exposing vegetable oils to high heat alone results in trans fats and the hydrogenation process involves very high heat.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: s240779]
    #21817385 - 06/17/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe there is no such thing as truly complete hydrogenation then? My understanding was that partial hydrogenation was the big thing to be concerned about.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: psi]
    #21817405 - 06/17/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats messed up I just checked everything in the kitchen and I cant find anything hydrogenated... I know it used to be in doritos..

I guess they have changed receipes..


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Amanita86]
    #21817444 - 06/17/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've read that hydrogenated oils cause heart issues.  It doesn't make sense to me that forcing companies to use another type of fat is going to reduce obesity.  Like deep frying in one oil or another significantly changes the fattiness of the food?


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21817453 - 06/17/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Who cares trans fats are trash fuck em I am glad they will be gone.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21817474 - 06/17/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I guess theres different stages of bad and that trans fat is top tier..


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: eira]
    #21817477 - 06/17/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I just want to see if that King of the Hill trans-facism episode comes true

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The problem with that episode is that the writers made it sound like trans fats are present in food in order to make it taste better. It's just a way of giving cheap oils a higher melting point so that they can be used in place of more expensive ones, nothing more. There is no compelling reason for a strong black market to develop, because the cheap substitutes don't taste better than the more expensive ingredients they are replacing.

A dollar store "chocolatey" easter bunny with hydrogenated vegetable oil in place of cocoa butter doesn't taste better than actual chocolate, it tastes worse. Same with margarine vs. butter. Without hydrogenated oils, makers of prepared foods would be forced to use better quality (but more expensive) ingredients instead.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: psi]
    #21817483 - 06/17/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21817544 - 06/17/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Like Psi says, partially hydrogenated fats may contain trans fats. Also, some trans fats are used pure :uhoh:  and trans fats are whats bad about hydrogenated oils for the heart.

Partially hydrogenated oils and fully hydrogenated fats are not really a problem if they are well made, you simply transmute for instance Linoleic acid (sunflower oil) into Oleic acid (olive oil).

Problem with hydrogenation is though that the oils are stripped of nutrients like vitamin E thus by themselves would not support life.

Natural is better. More complex chemistry and many nutrients.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21817545 - 06/17/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:





It definitely will.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Asante]
    #21817565 - 06/17/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:





It definitely will.





that's what we need a higher population.... :foreheadslap:


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21817574 - 06/17/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Asante said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:





It definitely will.





that's what we need a higher population.... :foreheadslap:



Idiots will still kill themselves...

there aint a limit on stoopid :wink:


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: SunnyD]
    #21817578 - 06/17/15 02:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that's something that wont change that's always been.

this will change population according to above posts.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: SunnyD]
    #21818396 - 06/17/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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AddyZomeD said:
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Trichome_Delta9 said:
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Asante said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:





It definitely will.





that's what we need a higher population.... :foreheadslap:



Idiots will still kill themselves...

there aint a limit on stoopid :wink:




Or you guys could always educate them and make them decent citizens... They might still be stupid but at least they'll have higher paying jobs.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21818803 - 06/17/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ya banning trans fats will save thousands and thousands of lives.

I gotta admit good job FDA. :thumbup:



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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: spixce]
    #21818807 - 06/17/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

how will it save thousands of lives?

im sure there will just be another thing that starts killing everyone off.

we need population control....


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21819471 - 06/17/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Meanwhile, we have roundup and hundreds of other toxic chemicals sprayed on crops, added to our food and peddled as good for us. Msg, aspartame and other artificial sweeteners, fake fats, too many things to mention.

Its like the boat is sinking from massive holes in the hull and the fda tossed out a glass of water and said all is well now. Maybe the trans fat people didn't pay the bribe money well enough so they got picked for a ban? It will never happen to evil giant Monsanto, they spread the grease on every politicians palm.

Funny how they go after fifa for corruption but seem to overlook the gross and rampant corruption in congress and politics in general.


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Patlal]
    #21819488 - 06/17/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dude about fucking time. at the same time though unless you are just completely uninformmed or just completely ignorant to it than you kniw trans fats are absolutely terrible for you...


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Re: The FDA has officially put a ban on tans fats in America [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21819501 - 06/17/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Trichome_Delta9 said:
how will it save thousands of lives?

im sure there will just be another thing that starts killing everyone off.

we need population control....




if you think trans fats are population control you are fucking retarded. we only need it right niw because of the way of civization is run. if we all work together and for each other, there is more than enough food and wealth to go around so each and every human being can live an amazing life


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