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Should SWIM take 5 hits?
    #21814693 - 06/16/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, so quick back story. SWIM recently bought 5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker". SWIM has also already tripped on 2 hits of this stuff, and said it was strong, but resembled the taste and length of 25I. Now the question, would SWIM be okay with taking 5 hits? Or should he just take a lower dose? Thanks for the responses!


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21814722 - 06/16/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't take that shit. Lsd has no taste.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Matt87]
    #21814746 - 06/16/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

SWIM can confirm its good stuff. He doesnt care that it may be an RC. I just need to know if i should give him the green light on him taking 5 hits.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21814759 - 06/16/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't give a shit if you think it's "good stuff". It's a fucking research chemical that in high doses can definitely kill your ass or give you one hell of a bad trip that will go on for fucking ever. Unless you have lsd don't take more than whatever you took last time, hell don't take any at all...do your poor brain a favor.

You may have had a good time last time but taking a little more can put things into a whole nother dimension and with research chemicals (especially ones like 25i)...you don'ttttt wanna play games like that without so little as knowing knowing the dosages laid on each tab. Take my word for it, they're bad juju. LSD is good juju, use your internets and get some real lucy baby please. You have ONE, fucking ONE mind/body...treat it well and it'll treat you well.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr] * 1
    #21814797 - 06/16/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

vektyr said:
bought 5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker".[/url]




:lolwut:

dude throw that shit


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21814861 - 06/16/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Jean-guy Masta said:
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vektyr said:
bought 5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker".[/url]




:lolwut:

dude throw that shit




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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21814873 - 06/16/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What type of damage might occur, other than death?


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr] * 1
    #21814885 - 06/16/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because death isn't enough to worry about?

You could lose a limb from vasoconstriction.

Throw that trash away OP.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21814889 - 06/16/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bad things happen to your organs, they can start to fail over a period of time = slow death.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21814899 - 06/16/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Aight guys. Will consider.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21814976 - 06/16/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

2 hits to 5 hits of a RC blotter.

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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21815038 - 06/16/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Flush it... Unless you enjoy massive seizures and heart attacks.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815160 - 06/16/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Aight guys. Will consider.



What's left to consider? You might die bro, for real.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21815183 - 06/16/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:woah:


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21815186 - 06/16/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just dont feel like my homie would low ball me like that


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815197 - 06/16/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How do you figure? The description you gave sounds exactly like 25I-NBOMe. Which is known to be fatally toxic.

"Mescaline base with a DMT kicker"

You realize that makes no sense at all right?

Your homie is selling you potentially fatal research chemicals.

I'd be going to get my money back as soon as I'd finished flushing that trash.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21815204 - 06/16/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Jean-guy Masta said:
Quote:

vektyr said:
bought 5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker".[/url]




:lolwut:

dude throw that shit





:lol:

Yea OP,  that's horrible.  Your man doesn't know what he's talking about.


Go get your money back.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21815211 - 06/16/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Damn dude...


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815249 - 06/16/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Should the come up be around 20 minutes with 25i? Cause thats how fast it kicked in last time


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815342 - 06/16/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes. 25I comes on that fast.

LSD has a long gradual come up, for myself an LSD come up can last 2-3 hours before I'm peaking.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21815355 - 06/16/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah, with this stuff, peak is after 3 to 4 hours


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815396 - 06/16/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How long does it last total?

Actually I don't care, the main point here is you said it has a taste.
LSD is completely tasteless.

If it's bitter it's a spitter.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21815408 - 06/16/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Between 8 - 10 hours typically. I enjoy the Nbome's quite honestly


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815419 - 06/16/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It didnt have the same feeling as 25I though, last time I dosed on this stuff. 25I normally gives me jitters, but this stuff didnt


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815435 - 06/16/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't trust it. You're playing with fire.
Find a source for safe psychedelics man, the risk is too fucking real with NBOMe


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815438 - 06/16/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

maybe not 25i, but certainly not acid.

Many other research chemicals are just as dangerous for you and could kill you. If you REALLY want to know or prove us wrong, order a test kit, they're like 20 bucks for the good ones, and it will tell you what it is. Just wait until then to take it, or throw them away.

Ask yourself, is potentially risking your life really worth it for one trip?






Btw.......SWIM :haha: , you do realize this offers 0 protection since it could also translate to, "someone who is me"


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21815481 - 06/16/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I never thought of it being twisted like that tbh. Ill look into a test kit. Thanks for the insight to my issue. If i knew how to close a post, i would, but consider this thread closed.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815486 - 06/16/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can we also talk about the
Quote:

vektyr said:
5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker".




Put a blotter on a milligram scale. It should have a mass of ~4-9mg. Oral DMT is hardly even active without an MAOI, and the oral threshold of mescaline is ~100mg. Whoever sold you it lied to you, you have a RC, and you are stupid to take unknown RCs from street dealers, let alone in ridiculous dosages. You are putting yourself at a serious risk of death or a fate worse than death, which harms both yourself and the RC community which faces incessant chem bans due to stupid teenagers killing themselves on unknown chems. If you aren't willing to listen to people who understand what you are dealing with to a greater extent than yourself, why even ask the question?

Edit: posted at the same time you just replied OP, ignore this I guess.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr] * 1
    #21815738 - 06/16/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Alright, so quick back story. SWIM recently bought 5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker". SWIM has also already tripped on 2 hits of this stuff, and said it was strong, but resembled the taste and length of 25I. Now the question, would SWIM be okay with taking 5 hits? Or should he just take a lower dose? Thanks for the responses!



You're retarded. Do you even erowid bro?


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21815787 - 06/16/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We really don't need to call OP a retard guys. Everyone starts somewhere. How about we help him learn to identify lsd from rc and focus on harm reduction as opposed to insulting the poor guy.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21815801 - 06/16/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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SWIM can confirm its good stuff. He doesnt care that it may be an RC. I just need to know if i should give him the green light on him taking 5 hits.




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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21817537 - 06/17/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Aight, i can confirm. It was good shit. I had ego death


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21817723 - 06/17/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Aight, i can confirm. It was good shit. I had ego death




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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21817734 - 06/17/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your dealers retarded, and you're stupid for believing him. Do yourself a favor and listen to people that have more experience and knowledge about these chemicals before you kill yourself or end up losing limbs like one of our very good members almost did. Your dealers out to make a buck and could give 2 shits on weather you reached an enlightened state of consciousness or end up in a fucking body bag.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21817740 - 06/17/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Aight, i can confirm. It was good shit. I had ego death



Jesus fucking Christ dude :facepalm3: :underage:


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21817841 - 06/17/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

vektyr said:
Aight, i can confirm. It was good shit. I had ego death



Jesus fucking Christ dude :facepalm3: :underage:



OP I tried to be nice but you do seriously need to listen to everybody in this thread. Your dealer is selling you garbage research chemicals that have the ability to kill you.

The average 25i blotter, which is what you have, is laid at 1000ug. If you took 5 hits you would be investing somewhere in the ballpark of 5000ug.

Just the other day we had a member take that same dose, 5000ug, and he had worrying vasoconstriction that easily could have gone sour.
Furthermore there is at least one death, if not more, from doses as low as 5000ug.

A drug that can be fatal in doses as low as 5000ug aka 5mg aka a fucking 5 strip is absolutely not a drug you want to put in your body.

Justify it all you want. But your homie is an awful morally corrupt dealer selling dangerous chemicals to mid level troopers who don't know any better.

It's time to bite the bullet bro, listen to us because we know better, throw that shit out and never take it again. I don't care how high it got you, ego death does not equal safety.

That shit is poison.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21817849 - 06/17/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well we dont know what it is so... poison... maybe not..

Anyhoo... mescalineon blotter... hmm.
Oh, and dmt isnt active orally (on its own) , also wouldnt go on blotter!

Always question things that make no logical sense

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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: vektyr]
    #21817863 - 06/17/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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5 tabs of street "cid" labeled to contain a Mescaline base and a DMT "kicker".[/url]




Jesus man, that is just sad. What kind of fucking people are you buying off? Do yourself a favour and delete their number and never buy anything off them again.

They are making bank off your naivety. Time to do some reading son, you've come to the right place.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #21817900 - 06/17/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your dealer called it that? No.. that's impossible to make on an lsd tab. It's probably an RC. Which sucks and can have permanent damage or worse. Especially if taken in high doses, you may die. Stick to mushies or get a better source that won't bullshit you. Darknet only for Cid these days for me


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Heisencybin] * 4
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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: qweqaz]
    #21818013 - 06/17/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2: so on point


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21818096 - 06/17/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just to say, if you ignore the advice here and decide to just take them anyway, don't go over a hit or two. That stuff gets dangerous at even a few tabs so  5 is asking for trouble.

They were probably cheap, I would rather throw them away than lose my feet or die :shrug:


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: nwalker248]
    #21818109 - 06/17/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

People still do the SWIM thing?


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #21818169 - 06/17/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whoever this swim guy is he's in a lot of trouble. I've read about him taking all sorts of narcotics and doing crazy things!


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21818185 - 06/17/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You shouldnt be selfish and post that shit to me :crazy:

i would destroy that for you :smile:


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    #21818222 - 06/17/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whoever this swim guy is he's in a lot of trouble. I've read about him taking all sorts of narcotics and doing crazy things!



Right?

Dude must have some problems. A lot of free time too.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21818273 - 06/17/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Aight, i can confirm. It was good shit. I had ego death



Jesus fucking Christ dude :facepalm3: :underage:



OP I tried to be nice but you do seriously need to listen to everybody in this thread. Your dealer is selling you garbage research chemicals that have the ability to kill you.

The average 25i blotter, which is what you have, is laid at 1000ug. If you took 5 hits you would be investing somewhere in the ballpark of 5000ug.

Just the other day we had a member take that same dose, 5000ug, and he had worrying vasoconstriction that easily could have gone sour.
Furthermore there is at least one death, if not more, from doses as low as 5000ug.

A drug that can be fatal in doses as low as 5000ug aka 5mg aka a fucking 5 strip is absolutely not a drug you want to put in your body.

Justify it all you want. But your homie is an awful morally corrupt dealer selling dangerous chemicals to mid level troopers who don't know any better.

It's time to bite the bullet bro, listen to us because we know better, throw that shit out and never take it again. I don't care how high it got you, ego death does not equal safety.

That shit is poison.



Actually, I knew a guy who died from around 1 mg on a single blotter. It's dangerous in very low doses, I would never ever consider taking 5 tabs of the shit. Also it's pretty common for them to be around 600 micrograms per a hit now. It reduces the chance of people dying and shit.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Achillita]
    #21818436 - 06/17/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ill buy off of agora next time I suppose.. thanks for all the advice on this. When I buy, what µg should I get? Ive been tripping for the past few years and really wouldnt know where to start when it comes to buying legit chems on the darknet.


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Ill buy off of agora next time I suppose.. thanks for all the advice on this. When I buy, what µg should I get? Ive been tripping for the past few years and really wouldnt know where to start when it comes to buying legit chems on the darknet.



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Ill buy off of agora next time I suppose.. thanks for all the advice on this. When I buy, what µg should I get? Ive been tripping for the past few years and really wouldnt know where to start when it comes to buying legit chems on the darknet.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21818489 - 06/17/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay ill try to find some.. can someone describe an LSD trip compared to an RC, lets say 25I-NBOMe, or a DOx?

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    #21818514 - 06/17/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

LSD- you keep your feet/life
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    #21818567 - 06/17/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, Im looking into buying 250 mg of pure crystal DMT, and 5 hits of LSD from one of my deepweb sites. Again, many thanks for the guidance


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    #21818573 - 06/17/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stay safe brotha. :smile:


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    #21818580 - 06/17/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Will do. Do you know how I might close this thread?


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    #21818623 - 06/17/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can't close the thread. Only mods can. You can hide it from your view by double clicking the folder icon next to the thread title however.


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    #21818637 - 06/17/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay. Ill keep yall posted then. Ill update when I get the good stuff in. Cant wait to try DMT


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Be careful out there bud


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    #21820635 - 06/17/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Because death isn't enough to worry about?

You could lose a limb from vasoconstriction.

Throw that trash away OP.




he's not taking ungodly amounts of 5ht agonists like you did, just five hits.

people have gotten seiures however from two hits of 25b, story is somewhere on reddit. the gangrene you can get from phenethylamine psychedelics is somewhat rare if i'm not mistaken, and only really happens when someone heavily overdoses on them.

the nbome series probably should be avoided for the most part, i'll finally agree there.

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How long does it last total?

Actually I don't care, the main point here is you said it has a taste.
LSD is completely tasteless.

If it's bitter it's a spitter.





i have had hits spectrometer tested by a friend that had a taste, and come up for LSD. the reason they had a taste was from the ink on the paper itself. came up around 50ug

lsd itself won't have a taste, however it's possible for a hit to contain LSD and have a taste should it be on a printed tab.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: 404]
    #21820638 - 06/17/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i have had hits spectrometer tested by a friend




Still have the readings? I highly doubt this. What kind of spectroscopy?


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Because death isn't enough to worry about?

You could lose a limb from vasoconstriction.

Throw that trash away OP.




he's not taking ungodly amounts like you did, just five hits.

people have gotten seiures
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How long does it last total?

Actually I don't care, the main point here is you said it has a taste.
LSD is completely tasteless.

If it's bitter it's a spitter.





i have had hits spectrometer tested by a friend that had a taste, and come up for LSD. the reason they had a taste was from the ink on the paper itself. came up around 50ug

lsd itself won't have a taste, however it's possible for a hit to contain LSD and have a taste should it be on a printed tab.



5 hits of NBOMe is debateably an ungodly amount.

I find it hard to believe paper has any taste. Ive eaten countless blank blotter to disprove this theory, nothing has ever had a taste.

Theres a massive difference between 3 seconds of slightly salty taste from an LSD blotter touched by sweaty hands, and the god awful, mouth numbing, hour long, taste-bud shit fest you get from RC's


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21820687 - 06/17/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

one of my friends has done 15 hits in a night and has been completely fine.
edit- it seems once you've taken a few and waited a bit, your receptors downregulate quickly in response (as is the reaction for most psychedelics given their similar pharmacokinetics) that's why tolerance builds so quickly to lsd and other psychedelics

I don't really go around making things up. i've seen the analysis report for the printed tabs that had a taste, the print was a red floral design, i've even posted about it in the recent LSD prints thread (last year i believe)

the spectrometer hit for another compound, the dye, which was likely the cause of the bitter taste as no other psychoactive chemical structure was present on the tab.


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    #21820695 - 06/17/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just because your friend ate 15 tabs in one night does not make it a safe compound.

People have died frm as little as 1 hit.

When it comes to harm reduction with NBOMe products its best not to argue over semantics. The shit is dangerous.


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    #21820698 - 06/17/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21820788 - 06/17/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i have had hits spectrometer tested by a friend




Still have the readings? I highly doubt this. What kind of spectroscopy?




Doubt me all you want, I don't go around making shit up like this.
LC/MS. lost the specific read outs when i lost my USB drive as well as my hard drive.

in the mean time, here is the report from another set i got for someone else



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Just because your friend ate 15 tabs in one night does not make it a safe compound.

People have died frm as little as 1 hit.

When it comes to harm reduction with NBOMe products its best not to argue over semantics. The shit is dangerous.





you didn't read my whole post dude :facepalm:
However, i did hit 'Continue' too quick as i hadn't finished typing one of my sentences out... still though
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people have gotten seiures however from two hits of 25b, story is somewhere on reddit. the gangrene you can get from phenethylamine psychedelics is somewhat rare if i'm not mistaken, and only really happens when someone heavily overdoses on them.

the nbome series probably should be avoided for the most part, i'll finally agree there.




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    #21820825 - 06/17/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nice :thumbup:

A lot of people are full of shit
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i have had hits spectrometer tested by a friend




Still have the readings? I highly doubt this. What kind of spectroscopy?




Doubt me all you want, I don't go around making shit up like this.
LC/MS. lost the specific read outs when i lost my USB drive as well as my hard drive. you're more than welcome to ask ___NOPE_______ here about them however.

in the mean time, here is the report from another set i got for someone else



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Just because your friend ate 15 tabs in one night does not make it a safe compound.

People have died frm as little as 1 hit.

When it comes to harm reduction with NBOMe products its best not to argue over semantics. The shit is dangerous.





you didn't read my whole post dude :facepalm:
However, i did hit 'Continue' too quick as i hadn't finished typing one of my sentences out... still though
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people have gotten seiures however from two hits of 25b, story is somewhere on reddit. the gangrene you can get from phenethylamine psychedelics is somewhat rare if i'm not mistaken, and only really happens when someone heavily overdoses on them.

the nbome series probably should be avoided for the most part, i'll finally agree there.






Im confused by these readings. Its been awhile since I've read a mass spec? Did this test for molar mass, structure, or purity? Can you walk me through it?


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    #21820881 - 06/17/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't really fully understand all the readings myself, so i'm not much use. he explained all of this to me when he handed me the files, but i've forgotten most of what he said.

if you look at the bottom graph and see the large spike in the center, that is the machine reading a chemical structure, in this case, LSD.

on the reports i saw for the red floral design, there was a second spike, one that came up as a completely different molecular formula. i googled the formula and it came up as some kind of industrial dye.


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    #21820892 - 06/17/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I see the molecular weights are almost identical. Nice work man..
Sorry for being a dick. As a science major its hard for me to not call bullshit on people here claiming they know chemists and they spec'd this and that


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    #21820918 - 06/17/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it's cool... i suppose that's the proper mindset to have, better to be skeptical of something than to foolishly agree with everything that comes across


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    #21820946 - 06/17/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

At the very least 5 hits of any nbome would be horribly uncomfortable. I got LSD that was 25c/25i 3 years ago from a guy that usually has good LSD. I took 3 hits and tasted it and immediately knew i got NBOME because i had tried it before
willingly.

I got horrible vasioconstiction. We had planned a hike that day...

My fucking friends didn't believe me when i said it wasn't LSD. they wanted to "stay positive" or whatever, it was annoying they wouldn't listen to me and instead started making fun of me. I didn't care that much except out of frustration that they wouldn't listen.

So we went on the hike...all our limbs swelled up like sausages, it sucked, we all had way too much blood in our hands and had to hold them up in the air to drain, it was gross and uncomfortable and we may have tripped balls but i felt my brain being fried and totally hated it and bitched out my dealer later and he felt aweful and hooked me up with good acid.

Oh..and at the worst you will have a seizure and die!


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Everything]
    #21820957 - 06/17/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have some NBOME just as a novelty. I was considering trying it but after reading a little more I said ffuuuckkkkk thatttttt


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    #21820990 - 06/17/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yep I passed on the whole NBOMe thing. My friends tried it while I was booming, they were booming AS WELL but on a lower dose. They were on a completely different wavelength, and I had a hard time relating to them at all. They said the visuals were awesome, but they felt jaded and very uncomfortable during the experience.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21821018 - 06/17/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you are prone to seizures, it would likely be a bad idea. i dunno.

also, the term "hit" is completely irrelevent here as it doesn't really properly quantify the dose. what's news to me, is i checked erowid not 15 minutes ago to learn that the molecules can be active in a range much much lower than what i had previously read...

as for vasoconstriction, i have had pretty uncomfortable vasoconstriction from LSD quite a number of times, you feel the veins in your body shrinking and opening in certain spots and can feel like the insides of your skin are crawly.


i've had a pretty bitchin' time on 25c. the handful of times i've tried it there was this total dissolving of any anxiety i had felt and some of the most peak happiest moments i've ever lived, going so far as to be more stimulating than LSD and far far more visually profound. i'm not advocating for the drug though, just poking at the notion that the mechanism by which the series causes these adverse reactions may not be fully well understood yet.


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    #21821058 - 06/17/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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as for vasoconstriction, i have had pretty uncomfortable vasoconstriction from LSD quite a number of times.




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    #21821138 - 06/17/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I get noticeable vasoconstriction on the comedown of LSD. It's not too uncomfortable, but can be if I pay attention to it.


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Re: Should SWIM take 5 hits? [Re: Achillita]
    #21821166 - 06/17/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've never had that on LSD. Skin crawling  :hmm:  you sure it was LSD dude?


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as for vasoconstriction, i have had pretty uncomfortable vasoconstriction from LSD quite a number of times.




wtf are you talking about... do you even LSD bro?




:underage:

LSD is pretty well known as a vasoconstrictor.

it's a potent agonist of the 5ht2a subtype receptor in the brain. among many other things, this receptor is responsible for affecting vasoconstriction and vasodilation. this is the mechanism of action that other serotonergic hallucinogens have on the body such as mushrooms and mescaline, and is likely the reason why these substances treat Cluster headaches and migraines. 

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I get noticeable vasoconstriction on the comedown of LSD. It's not too uncomfortable, but can be if I pay attention to it.





have you ever tried taking magnesium and calcium to alleviate this?


also, yes. i am sure it was LSD as it was one of the hits that had be run through the mass spec. it contained roughly 50ug


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    #21821206 - 06/17/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Now that I think about it I did have that on some wow back when I was just getting into lsd


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    #21822272 - 06/18/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's a little worrying since I play sports super hard on lsd. I've felt uncomfortable for sure but I would hate to swell up. I'd probably freak out.


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    #21822739 - 06/18/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thats really interesting ... Ive taken around 15-ish hits of liquid LSD with no problems... (plus numerous other lower dose sessions)

however, I have also eaten 23 HBWR seeds (like an idiot) and suffered a certainly near-fatal episode of vasoconstriction due to the cyanoglycosides which metabolized into cyanide... on top of the massively overpowering LSA trip... heh, dont try that at home kids


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