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Kevwynn
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Pulling my hair out
#21814606 - 06/16/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright im getting pretty aggrivated. Im trying wbs right now and this polyfill is pissing me off. If its tight the needle pushes it through and if its loose it pushes it through. Can someone give me advice. If i use tyvek too should i put it under the lid or above it? Im thinking tyvek below the lid would be pretty helpful with keeping the polyfill in. And if i go to the post office and get some tyvek envelopes do i cut the envelope so it lays totally flat, kind of like unfols the envwlope i guess and then trace the jar lid, Or should i just trace the circles on the envelope as is. Im sorry for this rant. I did good with brf cakes, i just didnt like the yield.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21814645 - 06/16/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inoculating through polyfil is very low tech... I suggest making rtv SHIP lids and using EZ Felt filters for gas exchange
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Kevwynn
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: EURoFRA1D]
#21814652 - 06/16/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where would i find ez felt filters? This is the first I am hearing about them.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21814672 - 06/16/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kevwynn said: Where would i find ez felt filters? This is the first I am hearing about them.
Michaels, AC Moore, ect. Any craft store should stock it. Probably have it at Walmart too.
Read this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14488446
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: EURoFRA1D]
#21814683 - 06/16/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright i actually googled it and found that tek. My only other question now is do i place the metal lid above or below the ez felt? And will it allow for proper GE?
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EURoFRA1D
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21814707 - 06/16/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I make my lids by drilling two holes, one in the middle of the lid and one off-center. The middle hole is filled with rtv to be used as an inoculation port. I then cut a 1"x2" (roughly, I don't measure) rectangle of felt and fold it in half so I basically have 2 1x1 squares on top of each other. Then I rtv that over the off-center hole. Sort of like the lids halfway down that link. Hope this makes sense. I take no credit for this either, I didn't come up with it I just use it.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21814715 - 06/16/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't use EZ felt, that stuff is garbage. If you're having trouble going thru poly just lift the lid and inoculate like that. It's no different than opening a jar for G2G outside you're not putting live myc in there. Best way to filter GE? Synthetic filter discs
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mushmagic
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What's wrong with EZ felt?
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Kevwynn
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But if i lift the lid off doesnt that make way for contamination? Mind you guys im usong a still air box
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EURoFRA1D
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I really don't see how it's any different than polyfill, considering it IS polyfill.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21814806 - 06/16/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: What's wrong with EZ felt?
Its' pore size is too big.
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Kevwynn said: But if i lift the lid off doesnt that make way for contamination? Mind you guys im usong a still air box
Not if you're careful. If it caused contams we couldn't do agar or G2G in a SAB.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: EURoFRA1D]
#21814822 - 06/16/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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As suggested above, make a self healing injection port. It's easy and provides peace of mind. I would stick with the poly fill for gas exchange since it sounds like that's what have on hand already. It really works well once you get used to stuffing the holes. Good luck!
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Ncogneato]
#21814848 - 06/16/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck an injection port, that's more waiting and work and shit to buy. Just crack the lid.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21817355 - 06/17/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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mushmagic said: What's wrong with EZ felt?
Its' pore size is too big.
Idk I've literally never had a problem with it after years of use..Maybe I've just been lucky
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: mushmagic]
#21817721 - 06/17/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20260463#20260463
just crack open the lid inoculate 1cc/jar without letting the MS syringe touche the jar and if it touched it just flame sterilize it before using it again. dont work too fast and dont work too slow. before inoculation make sure that the jar lids inside the sab are loose. but do this inside the sab.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: oontribe]
#21817953 - 06/17/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright i might jus crack the lids.. i have a couple of jars that i put 1cc eqch in through the polyfill.. it pushed in a little but i grabbed it with my sterilized glove before it could fall all the way in. Im just waiting, i have yet to see any growth and its been above 5 days. Could hzve been the wrong type of wbs to work with.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Kevwynn]
#21817967 - 06/17/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Two 1/4" holes. RTV silicone one on hole, the other leave open, then two layers of Tyvek under the lid. It has worked wonders for me. good luck.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: Algo]
#21818008 - 06/17/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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but the poly is simple...just one 1/4" hole stuff it tightly with poly and thats it...always use a SAB, crack inoculate. so far so good.
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: oontribe]
#21818025 - 06/17/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont make any holes or use anything in my lids.... just leave a bigger air pocket... the mycelium doesnt give a damn and grows very healthy, and it does not dry out... But i use the grain just after it finshes spawn run....
the filters help if you are going to store them for too long
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Re: Pulling my hair out [Re: AIRDOG]
#21818070 - 06/17/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drill hole in lid, cover hole with scotch tape or something more sturdy like isolation/medical tape, poke syringe trough tape, put on another layer of tape done, never had a problem with any kind of tape during PC either
Like RR describes in his PF tek vids, works just as well for grain and if you get the right kind of tape you even have GE covered
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