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MidwestShroomin
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Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!!
#21813656 - 06/16/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have 5 Pre-Sterilized bags which have 2 quarts of rye berry seeds in each bag. They were inoculated 6/8. Today is 6/16. I know it's too early to see any mycelium growth, however, 2 bags have more condensation than the others.
Is more condensation better? One bag isn't showing any condensation despite all bags being inoculated with the same amount of MS.
The flash on the camera may give make the bags seem more 'wet' than then really are.


Edited by MidwestShroomin (06/16/15 07:49 AM)
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21813661 - 06/16/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cant see any pics...
condensation could mean there is too much moisture. more often than not it means there is a temperature differential between the inside of the bag and room temp. leave it alone. if you see strange colors or growth then you can start to worry.
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MidwestShroomin
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: Sksoul]
#21813675 - 06/16/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pics are up now.
And if the issue is a temp differential then wouldn't all bags look the same?
Is condensation a good thing?
I haven't touched them since putting them on the shelf
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21813710 - 06/16/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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don't worry about it until there is a problem. there is nothing you can do now but wait anyways.
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: Sksoul]
#21817175 - 06/16/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmm doesn't look good. I'd try mixing the grains around the bag to help absorb the extra moisture.
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MidwestShroomin
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: ShroominMe]
#21817617 - 06/17/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So is it just that one that doesn't look good?
Should I be apprehensive to think of shaking the bag up before I see mycelium growth?
1 out of 5 isn't bad though, but some of the other bags are dry and for some reason it worries me a tad more.
Any other opinions on the matter?
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21818137 - 06/17/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm guessing you inoculated with a spore syringe and not lc/li? Don't mix up the bags, it will just slow you down. Wait until about a quarter of the bag is colonized then mix.
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MidwestShroomin
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: Sksoul]
#21821766 - 06/18/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes its a MS syringe.
I actually just spotted growth yesterday morning in 1 of the bags (the one that appeared dry).
I have not shaken the bags, I haven't even touched them since inoculation. I just set them on my shelf and let them do they're thing undisturbed.
How bad is moisture inside of the bag though if there is no pooling water on the bottom?
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21822217 - 06/18/15 03:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes its a MS syringe.
okay, ms growth on grains will be slow.
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I actually just spotted growth yesterday morning in 1 of the bags (the one that appeared dry).
if you inoculated with ms on 6/8 and are seeing growth in one bag, it could still another 2 weeks before you should start worrying about the others not being viable.
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I have not shaken the bags, I haven't even touched them since inoculation. I just set them on my shelf and let them do they're thing undisturbed.
good, let it colonize until about a quarter of the bag is white and then mix it up to speed things along.
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How bad is moisture inside of the bag though if there is no pooling water on the bottom?
not as bad as you think. condensation on the inside of the bag could mean they were warmer than the air temp... maybe they got hot in shipping and then condensation showed when you brought them inside.
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Re: Condensation in Pre-Sterilized rye berry bags after inoculation. Questions!! [Re: Sksoul]
#21822220 - 06/18/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks a bunch for the informative and lighting fast response!
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