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MadBotanist


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Hmm.. Cacti ID?
#21813526 - 06/16/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can anyone help me id the following cacti, much appreciated!


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Lemnaminor
Lophophora - eyed



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this seems really intresting. Very cool not aligned ribs. i don't really know, maybe some Trichocereus?
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MadBotanist


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I think so as well... thought maybe a slight mutation, but a buddy in tucson said he has one similar in his yard but clueless as to what. Wish I could research more, but damaged tendon limits cpu use...
Edited by MadBotanist (06/16/15 07:39 AM)
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Lemnaminor
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my first thought was cereus, but those ribs are just to enflated. Also they look really bumpy, even the ones that are aligned.
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BigHeart
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Where'd you get it from?
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MadBotanist


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Re: Hmm.. Cacti ID? [Re: BigHeart]
#21814826 - 06/16/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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My buddy, he's clueless as to what it is though.
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ferrel_human
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Lemnaminor said: my first thought was cereus, but those ribs are just to enflated. Also they look really bumpy, even the ones that are aligned.
That's what I was gonna say lemna. A monstrose variety. But the ribs totally threw me off.
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P.Zappatecorum
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Yeah, looks like one the more columnar clones of mostrose c. peruvianus. Nice looking plant.
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BigHeart
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The ribs look similar zappa, but is it usual for cereus to have such long spines? Madbotanist's cactus looks like trich spines on a cereus monstrose body, can they interbreed?
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Re: Hmm.. Cacti ID? [Re: BigHeart]
#21815627 - 06/16/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Seems like some specimens can have decent spines.
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Lemnaminor
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Again, i'ts not the spines, ribs are too plump. I do have one of those monstrose cereus and as the ones posted, they have a relatively thin ribs and very caotical placement. Instead, OP's plant has ribs that behave like some of monstrose Pachanoi, not alined, but still "organized".
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BigHeart
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To me the ribs look fairly aligned, albeit in a slight spiral twist, except for the lower part where it goes more random. After seeing all of the pics of cereus monstrose that have been posted I'd say that's probably what it is, it looks slightly different but hey I have pups on old growth pachanoi that look completely different from whence they grew, cacti are variable sumbitches lol.
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MadBotanist


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Re: Hmm.. Cacti ID? [Re: BigHeart]
#21817508 - 06/17/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It certainly does have a spiral formation and I tasted a small piece of the flesh and it had no bitter taste perhaps a slightly salty taste. It would be unfortunate if it was inactive but a nice specimen nevertheless.
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MadBotanist


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bumping for more opinions. Spines seem to differ from that peruvian as well.
Edited by MadBotanist (06/18/15 05:14 PM)
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Pandemoon
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Here I found some pictures of this plant:
http://kaktusarnica.blogspot.de/2011/06/blog-post_3372.html

There it is labeled as "Cereus hildmannianus "uruguayan Monstrosus""
So it could be "C.hildmannianus" or "C.urugayanus" var. monstrosus. But yours has much longer spines..? The urugayanus seems to produce pretty long spines in some areas.
I have a C.peruvianus monstrosus and it's NOT this kind of plant.
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Edited by Pandemoon (06/19/15 05:49 AM)
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Mostly_Harmless
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A Browningia sp. ?
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MadBotanist


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Yeah the spines are longer and much more uniform in a slight spiral formation, not quite so random with it's lumpy spinage. Appreciate all the suggestions so far.
Edited by MadBotanist (06/19/15 09:27 AM)
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MadBotanist


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Another bump of curiosity.
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Lemnaminor
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after mostly_harmless suggestion, i lean on browningia
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MadBotanist


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Yeah that does have quite the resemblance. But now.... which one I wonder. If only my tendons weren't giving me so many problems and I could do thorough research. Perhaps browningia hertlingiana
And sure enough when I looked at that name I found it in relation to Tucson which as I said my buddy who lives there said he has one just like it in his backyard
http://tucson-gardener.com/graphics/cactacea/Browningia%20hertlingiana.html
Are there any ways to determine whether or not mescaline is present, is bitterness the only way or has someone had one that wasn't bitter but active I couldn't find anything in relation to the species but I found an interesting article about another one that I had not known if previously that may have been growing next to it in my buddies yard
Browningia candelaris - http://www.cienciaymemoria.cl/pdf/publicaciones/ARTICLE%2003_ECHEVERRIA_NIEMEYER_2012b.pdf
Edited by MadBotanist (06/22/15 07:48 PM)
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