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Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? * 1
    #21811685 - 06/15/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've always looked at people who fit the goody two-shoes stereotype, especially adults, as being incredibly immature for their age.  This was mostly an intuitive judgment.

But if I had to speculate about why I feel this way, I might say it's because young children typically don't question moral authority.  Then when they become teenagers they rebel against and question everything, and when they finally become adults, they take a more moderate stance where they realize it's ok to push against some barriers, but not against others.


This I think is the main reason why I view goody two-shoes as immature - they remind me of the 1st-grader saying, "I'm gonna tell teacher!"


Has anyone else felt this way too, that goody two-shoes are immature?


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #21811736 - 06/15/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Most of the time I would say no, but after having a falling out with a friend (context, I am 23 and she is 35) because she was trying to get me to validate her feelings of hatred towards the moral relavtiveness of her lesbian boss who got married (in Mass) and I wouldn't and than she went off on me about how she maintained her childlike innocence and I ruined myself with drugs, I feel like goody two-shoes is.

She also is the person who had her first love just recently and told me there is no way I have ever been in love cause what they had was so special no one else could have had that. It was like looking into the mirror of my 19 year old self all over again, and I tried to tell her that everyone feels that way after their first love. Then she goes off on a half hour long schpele about how she's not the one's who's changed, I am (never was a conversation point) and how drugs have ruined my mind and there's no way that I could ever stand up for something.


So yea, goody two shoes people are immature. They just never have really truly put themselves out there to see what life is about.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: theonlysun81]
    #21811779 - 06/15/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everything you said about your friend shouts immaturity in my opinion.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21811819 - 06/15/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Everything you said about your friend shouts immaturity in my opinion.



yea she's like a family friend and I'm relatively young so I maintained it out of respect for my dad, but its just getting to the point where it's insane.

Her sister is a schizophrenic and I would say is more sane than her. She's beyond talking to any more.

I was trying to be open minded, like maybe she found a way that gay people legitimately are bad, but when I kept asking how it affected her at all she just kept saying how condescending I was sounding and ignoring the question. like page after page of texts that were not even about the issue. if I had a smart phone I'd post the convo, but I don't.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: theonlysun81]
    #21811826 - 06/15/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That sucks.  Well yeah, your friend sounds like a good example to prove my point.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 2
    #21811837 - 06/15/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There is nothing immature about being a good person.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21811845 - 06/15/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Goody-two shoes does not necessarily equal good person.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21811852 - 06/15/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't?


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21811858 - 06/15/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can still question moral authority and choose to be "goody". Not everyone comes to the same conclusions we may. You could call some people in the subculture stupid for not taking the advice of the government and not doing meth or heroin or whatever - cause we all know some of them screw it up and die or become hooked of whatever.

Who's more mature? Well, what's mature?


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21811862 - 06/15/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They've never faulted and erred. If you go your whole life with no resistance, when the day comes you won't be prepared.

I had a friend who was a "good" person and was as plane and vanilla as one can get. He had no passion for anything in return. He's just a good little tool to be exploited. I could never follow a man like that or work with someone accordingly. It reeks apathy and weakness.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21811865 - 06/15/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nope.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #21811874 - 06/15/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It doesn't?



a goody two shoes never really will step out of their comfort zone and make real, grown up mistakes. there for the will not have wisdom from their perspective the rest of us truly could benefit from them.

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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: theonlysun81] * 2
    #21811884 - 06/15/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think of a goody two shoes as somebody who is similar to the Pharisees.  More judgmental in nature.  Not moral in a philanthropic or good deed sort of way, but somebody who simply complies with the rules, and constantly emphasizes that they are in line with the rules whereas you are not.

Genuinely good people will often hardly point out or recognize their own goodness. 

Goody two-shoes are more likely to kiss butt to rulemaking authority, because they perceive befriending authority as a tool to gain power over the others who are subject to the rules.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #21811894 - 06/15/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think of a goody two shoes as somebody who is similar to the Pharisees.  More judgmental in nature.  Not moral in a philanthropic or good deed sort of way, but somebody who simply complies with the rules, and constantly emphasizes that they are in line with the rules whereas you are not.

Genuinely good people will often hardly point out or recognize their own goodness. 

Goody two-shoes are more likely to kiss butt to rulemaking authority, because they perceive befriending authority as a tool to gain power over the others who are subject to the rules.



I would also say that generally good people know that they are capable of evil and it troubles them. Goody two shoes could never believe they are capable of wrong doing, cause how could they, they're them. I envision a good two shoes as more passive too, although i see which kind you are point out.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 2
    #21811900 - 06/15/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

'Adults' can be pretty immature overall. People think that just because u have a steady pay check or u got a car, house, wife n kids, wutever, that u are somehow more mature than most people and that's just not true. We seem to live in this skewed up world where the more money u have the more u are somehow worth as a person and it's really fucked up.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zZZz]
    #21812052 - 06/15/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

people-pleasers who behave overly-kind out of insecurity are immature.

if you're genuinely a nice person who doesn't need to do nice things to feel secure, that's maturity

some people are constantly afraid that others perceive them negatively, and therefore overcompensate by acting overly nice. these people aren't yet secure enough in their individuality which is why they come across as awkward or as a pussy


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zZZz]
    #21812057 - 06/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't really say goody two-shoes people are immature. Most of those types live really "meaningful" lives under their definition of the word (families, good jobs, marriages). I know one thing though, they really aren't any fun to be around but its good to have 1 or 2 in your circle if you ever need a DD or something like that.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21812217 - 06/15/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

all the insanely successful people i've met have always been super nice and perhaps a bit overly generous. and always talk in an optimistic, goody-two-shoes manner.

i'm sure that depends a lot where you live, and what type of career those "successful people" are in

but the trend i've witnessed in my life has been: rising success = rising goody-two-shoesness


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #21812272 - 06/15/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Anybody can have a label thrown at them, so it's hard to say if the person is immature.

But it's immature to insult someone with such a label.
In this case, it reflects poorly upon the person who is doing the name calling.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar] * 2
    #21812309 - 06/15/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What are you talking about mate? You just lightly insulted us about insulting people with labels.

Just because someone is a "good" individual does not mean they are unworthy or whatever, but there are those types that wade through life on the earnings and hard work of others just being wallflowers and then gloating on their status and superiority. I do not like those types. I have had friends, ex friends now, who have been like this.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21812352 - 06/15/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What are you talking about mate? You just lightly insulted us about insulting people with labels.

Just because someone is a "good" individual does not mean they are unworthy or whatever, but there are those types that wade through life on the earnings and hard work of others just being wallflowers and then gloating on their status and superiority. I do not like those types. I have had friends, ex friends now, who have been like this.




Hey mate, I was talking to OP. :rolleyes:


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21812497 - 06/15/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry cowboy :derp:


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: zZZz]
    #21812542 - 06/15/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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'Adults' can be pretty immature overall. People think that just because u have a steady pay check or u got a car, house, wife n kids, wutever, that u are somehow more mature than most people and that's just not true. We seem to live in this skewed up world where the more money u have the more u are somehow worth as a person and it's really fucked up.



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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21812571 - 06/15/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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They've never faulted and erred. If you go your whole life with no resistance, when the day comes you won't be prepared.

I had a friend who was a "good" person and was as plane and vanilla as one can get. He had no passion for anything in return. He's just a good little tool to be exploited. I could never follow a man like that or work with someone accordingly. It reeks apathy and weakness.



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What are you talking about mate? You just lightly insulted us about insulting people with labels.

Just because someone is a "good" individual does not mean they are unworthy or whatever, but there are those types that wade through life on the earnings and hard work of others just being wallflowers and then gloating on their status and superiority. I do not like those types. I have had friends, ex friends now, who have been like this.



:lolwut: are you going on about?


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21812583 - 06/15/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think that being a well-intended person necessarily means you have some sort of hidden agenda. But yeah, I understand what you're saying


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21812585 - 06/15/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno. I try to be a good person and try to live the Golden Rule. The only law I break these days is my occasional weed jags.  I'm hardly immature (or at least I think I'm not). Maybe I am a goody two-shoes, but I sure sleep well at night.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21812596 - 06/15/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your mother. That's what.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21812602 - 06/15/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

just like everything else in the world, this isn't black and white. its a grey splatter fuck.

i have met more than one kind of 'goody two-shoes'

There is the guy who is just ignorant of everything, he believes most things are 'too risky/dangerous' for him

There is the guy who is a goody two shoes because he is afraid. He thinks all the laws are just and are justified because of how bad stuff is.

There is the guy who has done it all and realized it takes you no where thats good. So he becomes a goody two shoes of sorts, because he knows how bad it can get, because he abused the fuck out of everything


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21812606 - 06/15/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

id rather not be any bodies pet dog
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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21812612 - 06/15/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21814807 - 06/16/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not just throwing labels at people.  I'm trying to establish an archetypal person - somebody who is essentially a false good person, and distinguish them from somebody who is truly good.

Rubbing in the fact that you are very compliant with the rules and/or another person is not compliant with them does not make you a good person.

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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21817959 - 06/17/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i believe in punishment and not by the law
if you know what im trying to say

so does that make me a a bad person?

i know im a good person i know whats
wrong and whats right.

i have examined bad, devil, just truly evil people
trying to get my head around why there how they are i got alot
of answers what is just really shocking

dont ask me why or how i know this.


but its just best to not focus on bad evil things
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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Cujllickduo] * 1
    #21818156 - 06/17/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ive always seen the "goody two shoe" types as complete fucking pussies. spineless little bitches. but immature? idk never seen it that way


its the type of person id never hang out with. one guy at my work is like that and i really cant fucking stand the dude. acting nice to him is tough


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21830835 - 06/20/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can tell that my main flaw in creating this thread was failing to define what a goody two-shoes is.  Most of you equate it with being a "good person" which is not at all the case.

You have to remember that morality is not black and white like many think it is - it is infinitely complex, always evolving, and people have been trying to define and understand it since almost the beginning of civilization.

However, my main distinction between goody two-shoes and good people is that goody-two shoes are condescending, strict rule-followers, and believe that they are better than you simply because they're following the rules and you're not.  And they completely lack humility (which is a vital trait you'd normally expect in a "good person"). I guess if you're the type of person who thinks the consensus rules (whichever rules those may be) always represent what is morally right, then you may fail to see any difference between the goody two-shoes and the good person.  I explained it more in a previous post I think.  But I've gotten what I needed from this thread.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21830842 - 06/20/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21831042 - 06/20/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I can tell that my main flaw in creating this thread was failing to define what a goody two-shoes is.  Most of you equate it with being a "good person" which is not at all the case.

You have to remember that morality is not black and white like many think it is - it is infinitely complex, always evolving, and people have been trying to define and understand it since almost the beginning of civilization.

However, my main distinction between goody two-shoes and good people is that goody-two shoes are condescending, strict rule-followers, and believe that they are better than you simply because they're following the rules and you're not.  And they completely lack humility (which is a vital trait you'd normally expect in a "good person"). I guess if you're the type of person who thinks the consensus rules (whichever rules those may be) always represent what is morally right, then you may fail to see any difference between the goody two-shoes and the good person.  I explained it more in a previous post I think.  But I've gotten what I needed from this thread.




Ah, gotcha. Well, in those terms I'm hardly a strict rule follower, although I do try to at least be a good person.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Envix] * 1
    #21831226 - 06/20/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

this thread exemplifies stupid.

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people-pleasers who behave overly-kind out of insecurity are immature.

if you're genuinely a nice person who doesn't need to do nice things to feel secure, that's maturity

some people are constantly afraid that others perceive them negatively, and therefore overcompensate by acting overly nice. these people aren't yet secure enough in their individuality which is why they come across as awkward or as a pussy



sorry but you don't have a point here.

people who act overly-kind are people whom are kind, overtly. they are not making up for anything but people's insecurity in just being nice. :shrug:

so you have to act a little like a dick, is what you're saying envix, in order to not appear or "come across" as a "pussy or awkward", and in order to assert yourself as "secure in your individuality", and then you're "real" nice?

dude... what a load of crap.

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I'm trying to establish an archetypal person - somebody who is essentially a false good person, and distinguish them from somebody who is truly good.





LOL


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21831278 - 06/20/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not really.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Foxadus]
    #21833253 - 06/20/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They teach people not to trust each other and they break up relationships.

Yes, I would say so, maybe even the definition of immaturity once you know one in person.

I honestly have wanted to punch this guy I worked with for being annoying, he pissed off all the black people too.
Not that I didn't like him as a human being, but it was like working with a miniature dickhead.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21833274 - 06/20/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I can tell that my main flaw in creating this thread was failing to define what a goody two-shoes is.  Most of you equate it with being a "good person" which is not at all the case.





Agreed.

I am sensitive to the term as I was called a goody two-shoes simply for being interested in my classes and got along well with my teachers.


Funny how I never got good grades :lol:


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21833550 - 06/20/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

One could also make the argument for rebellious rule-breakers being immature.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21833671 - 06/20/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And one could also make the argument that I'm gonna tell my mom on you. :lolsy:


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21835808 - 06/21/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe she'll spank me & send me to my room. :naughty:


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21836908 - 06/21/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My friend's neighbor is a goody two shoes. She has called the police three days in a row to report the smell of cannabis. It was fucking sage every time. All she had to do was go over to my friends place and ask them to compromise. Most neighbors would, but this bitch just calls the cops. So in this situation, the goody two shoes is extremely immature.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #21836927 - 06/21/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

combustin materials indoors is bad
but i mean if the door is closed...


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21940107 - 07/14/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I can tell that my main flaw in creating this thread was failing to define what a goody two-shoes is.  Most of you equate it with being a "good person" which is not at all the case.





Agreed.

I am sensitive to the term as I was called a goody two-shoes simply for being interested in my classes and got along well with my teachers.


Funny how I never got good grades :lol:




I hate to hear that.  There is kind of an anti-education, anti-intelligence culture in America, at least in the junior highs and high schools here.  If you enjoy classes or certain subjects or study hard you are a "nerd."  The cool kids were not always but often complete doofuses, class clowns, or downright apathetic.  But that's a separate topic I guess.

Anyways, just because someone mis-labelled you a goody-two shoes in the past does not mean you should necessarily reject the use of the term in its proper context.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21940116 - 07/14/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One could also make the argument for rebellious rule-breakers being immature.




I wholeheartedly agree with that too.  The point is that a mature person has found some middle ground that works best.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #21940669 - 07/14/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're a nerd if you excel in those classes

not being a fuck up doesn't make you a nerd


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Konyap]
    #21940702 - 07/14/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A goodie two shoe's acts nice to everyone and good in front of everyone
so that they can get the details or dirt
it's ushery if the dirt gets the person into trouble

now if you're a nerd these may apply
A. You take what ever you get lying down
B. You're just smart and come from a decent background
C. You actually have interest that are weird or weird for someone your age.

Like you wouldn't call a prep a nerd or a prep a goody two shoes which i spell goodie tooshoo's


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: Konyap]
    #21940818 - 07/14/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not necessarily. But the tendency to not question things, and obey authority for the sake of obeying indicates naivety..to me at least.

On the other hand, recklessness just screams immaturity(because who is more reckless than the youthful, who's brains have not yet finished developing and perhaps have not totally grasped mortality at that point)


but taking calculated risks or breaking rules for reasons other than for the simple sake of rebelling usually does not, in my opinion.


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Re: Is being a "goody two-shoes" a sign of immaturity? [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #21941106 - 07/14/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

goodie toshu's don't be smoking dat dank ass weed

they be all like stop killing my light skinned brotha's


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