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Shortness of breathe from etizolam?
    #21810910 - 06/15/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Etiz is pretty nice, but I like to be able to fucking breathe while on drugs.
I thought etiz had the opposite of this effect? The only other times this has happened was when I took cyclobenzaprine (muscle relaxer) and when I take too much oxycodone.

Is this common? I thoug that benzos are used for when people are having panic attacks (symptoms like shortness of breathe) and just for general anxiety. I have 0 anxiety right now but the respiratory depression is really bothering me.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21810927 - 06/15/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hrm? i haven't noticed it ever


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21811320 - 06/15/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And you just ordered 3g of the stuff didn't you? Maybe time to start tapering your doses down..


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811393 - 06/15/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You guys are taking this shit way too far. 3 in a row? Pulled a hat trick on killing yourselves from drug abuse. Get it together.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Adden]
    #21811409 - 06/15/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dys why was that directed at me?
Also, who's the third? :crazy:
The butrfentanyl guy?

RC's be getting a worse name daily..


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811430 - 06/15/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Isn't Etiz technically not an RC? I thought its legitimately prescribed  in Japan, Italy, and India


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811441 - 06/15/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And yes zombie I did recently order 3g, it came in the mail today :smile:


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #21811566 - 06/15/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know they do in india.  I never noticed labored breathing but I was told once the people I was with had to babysit me blacked out because I basically stopped breathing.

I always got cricket chirps in my ears, thats how I knew when I was in trouble.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21811651 - 06/15/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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And yes zombie I did recently order 3g, it came in the mail today :smile:




Holy fuck dude sorry to say this but are you fucking stupid? Having three grams of etizolam only ends three different ways: you overdose, you end up in jail or you get one of the worst addictions known to man.

Mark my words this will end badly. In a year or so I guarantee you will have wished you never ordered three grams. That shit sneaks up on you and before you know it you will need ten milligrams a day just to be leveled out. I guarantee you are so fucked if you don't flush that stuff down the toilet right now.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811765 - 06/15/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Dys why was that directed at me?
Also, who's the third? :crazy:
The butrfentanyl guy?

RC's be getting a worse name daily..




Reply fail. I respect you enough as a poster to not purposefully upset you. Rather, it is disconcerting to see people suffering such ill effects from drug abuse.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811774 - 06/15/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Dys why was that directed at me?
Also, who's the third? :crazy:
The butrfentanyl guy?

RC's be getting a worse name daily..




Says the guy who lost his toes taking RC's and doing too much etizolam.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Adden]
    #21811787 - 06/15/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Etizolam has an awful track record everywhere online. It's a problem imo.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811847 - 06/15/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Guys just to clarify, I'm not planning on using this recreation-ally. I don't even get why people use benzos for recreation. Just have this stash for when:
A.) I Cant sleep
B.) psychedelic comedowns
C.) coke comedowns
D.) When I'm in a stressful situation, and need something to calm my nerves
E.) I'll also have it for when friends are on trip comedowns, and whatnot


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21811857 - 06/15/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Reasons A through E are all excellent ways to build up an etizolam addiction.
Reason D is especially concerning.
Reason E is also very concerning, nobody should be handing out benzo analogues to anyone.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21811896 - 06/15/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

D has me worried too, doing a bunch of coke than using benzos to curb the comedown seems like a bad idea to me.

Unless it is like a couple times a year thing or something...

I have never liked the benzos for psychs thing either, people seem to look at it like some sort of safety net.

"oh I am feeling bad on this dose better take some etiz and knock myself out"

I have read many situations like that and it seems pretty blasphemous for multiple reasons.

People shouldn't have a way to escape psychs, then they will never have a reason to fully work out the issues the psychs bring up.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: musiclover420]
    #21811904 - 06/15/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can rationalize to use etizolam for any situation.

I predict you are hooked in a few weeks.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21811967 - 06/15/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It could be in your head that your having respiratory depression. I don't think that is very common with it. Barbiturates and opiates yeh but not etizolam in normal dose range.

It's got a bad redose potential and it causes insane reward seeking behavior. Literally anything to stimulate dopamine response on etizolam sounds practical. It even makes gambling more appealing.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: musiclover420]
    #21812001 - 06/15/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I only trip maybe once or twice a month. Coke is something I indulge in a few times a year. And its very rare that I can't fall asleep, but when I can't, nothing really helps
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D has me worried too, doing a bunch of coke than using benzos to curb the comedown seems like a bad idea to me.

Unless it is like a couple times a year thing or something...

I have never liked the benzos for psychs thing either, people seem to look at it like some sort of safety net.

"oh I am feeling bad on this dose better take some etiz and knock myself out"

I have read many situations like that and it seems pretty blasphemous for multiple reasons.

People shouldn't have a way to escape psychs, then they will never have a reason to fully work out the issues the psychs bring up.




Yea, I've used coke probably 5 times this year, and don't plan on doing it anymore than that in the following years. As for psychedelics, I'm mainly talking about MDMA and LSD. I never have an exhausted/wiped out feeling when I'm coming down from shrooms or mescaline.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21812161 - 06/15/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Having three grams is having three thousand 1mg doses.

Three grams is six thousand 1mg doses.


In that time frame you will go from using it just to end trips and coke highs and getting sleep and calming your nerves to using it every day.

I predict you will get hooked psychologically within a matter of weeks and physically in a month or two


I predict you are gonna end your journey with etizolam having seizures and wishing you had a gun to blow your brains out. The withdrawals from benzos can last years by the way. You will have wished instead of ordering that three grams you ended up becoming a heroin junkie instead.

Have fun with the etizolam!


Flush that shit.


You are gonna read this message back later when I am completely right and wish you just tossed it the second you read this message.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21812176 - 06/15/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you consistently feel shortness in breath while on etizolam the safest thing to do is just stop taking it. Regardless of why you're taking it. Maybe it's all in your mind. Maybe it isn't.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21812188 - 06/15/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I ended up going to jail after taking too much etizolam one time.


Honestly that never stopped me from ordering it again.


It is by far the most addictive substance I have ever used. The withdrawals from just using 1.5mg a day are something I would not wish on my worst enemy. It just pisses me off he is pretty much down to get hooked on this and we are warning him.



Have fun getting being a bitch to a substance OP.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21812240 - 06/15/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Chill out man, believe it or not everyone is their own person and is free to make their own decisions.

And as a consequence have unique experiences.

Warning op is smart but don't tell him how it will turn him into a drug fiend.

Just becouse it did that to you does not mean everyone who uses it lacks the willpower to restrict their usage...

It is his choice if he uses it or not, I personally am very wary of any addicting substances especially the "harder" ones and synthetics.

Doesn't mean he has to be, though I do agree that even semi regular use, or any use at all really is not smart.

OP, if you are just planning on using etizs just for comedowns try something like kratom instead.

It could work pretty well and is much much less likely to cause a serious life ruining addiction like benzos.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #21812379 - 06/15/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. I know plenty of people who have managed their dosing. Right now my friend has had a vial I got for him for months. Everyone is different and not everyone is going to drink the whole vial and wake up in jail.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Gorlax]
    #21812529 - 06/15/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Overall ten times out of ten you are better just not to mess with etizolam.

If you want something that gives you a better high and no risk just order some kratom.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg]
    #21812655 - 06/15/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Etiz is pretty nice, but I like to be able to fucking breathe while on drugs.
I thought etiz had the opposite of this effect? The only other times this has happened was when I took cyclobenzaprine (muscle relaxer) and when I take too much oxycodone.

Is this common? I thoug that benzos are used for when people are having panic attacks (symptoms like shortness of breathe) and just for general anxiety. I have 0 anxiety right now but the respiratory depression is really bothering me.



volumetric dosing with pg

also make it a tad weak
benzo blackouts are less likely


benzo blackouts are sad


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: SunnyD]
    #21813575 - 06/16/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I appreciate all the advice and precautions guys, especially you bitter cactus :thumbup:

But all in all I can say I didn't really enjoy the effects of etizolam, And I can't see myself ever using it recreationally. For me, at least, the negatives outweigh the positives (shortness of breathe, uncoordinated, legs kept giving out, can't remember anything fromm yesterday)
All that bullshit just for a little relief from anxiety.


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Re: Shortness of breathe from etizolam? [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #21813588 - 06/16/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Man given the reasons you listed I would argue you are using it at very least semi recreationally.


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