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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810287 - 06/15/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.wtae.com/national/san-diego-deputy-uses-taser-on-13-year-old/33580838

Looks like the mother of this child called the cops because he had been missing for 1.5 days.  It's also been reported that he bit the cop during the physical struggle.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: qman]
    #21810303 - 06/15/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is that so?
Well that changes a lot.. but not everything.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21810321 - 06/15/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why would anyone call the cops on their kids in this country if they give a shit about the welfare of their kids? Confrontation with the police is the MOST dangerous situation the average civilian will face in their life.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810326 - 06/15/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The problem with your argument is the presumption of guilt on the part of the cop. Every individual has the presumption of innocence, not just the ones you find worthy.

I'm embarrassed for you.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810337 - 06/15/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Why would anyone call the cops on their kids in this country if they give a shit about the welfare of their kids? Confrontation with the police is the MOST dangerous situation the average civilian will face in their life.




You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21810352 - 06/15/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
Is that so?
Well that changes a lot.. but not everything.




Does a cop have the legal right to physically detain a missing child?  I don't know the answer.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810359 - 06/15/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

One thing that keeps coming up is the term Liberals.

What does police behavior have to do with who you voted for in the last election?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810361 - 06/15/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe this will help koods.

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It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions. 




Seems like more than the 1000 +/- you claim were killed by cops last year.

http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records


Or this, which also makes a mockery of your claim:

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Patlal]
    #21810363 - 06/15/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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One thing that keeps coming up is the term Liberals.

What does police behavior have to do with who you voted for in the last election?




I don't know. Perhaps that's why I didn't use that term. How about asking someone who did?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810370 - 06/15/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What ridiculous is that it's not hyperbole. The police are responsible for 1000+ homicides per year - around 6% of all homicides. They represent less than 1/3 of a percent of the population yet are responsible for 6% of the homicides. How is that not a dangerous demographic?

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Maybe this will help koods.

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It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions. 

Seems like more than the 1000 +/- you claim are killed by cops last year.




http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records


Or this, which also makes a mockery of your claim:

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm




We are talking about the police not doctors. So, we can't focus on one problem until every other problem is tackled? Great way to never solve any problem.
You might as well say "everyone dies eventually, so who cares if the police kill a few hundred people"


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810381 - 06/15/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What ridiculous is that it's not hyperbole. The police are responsible for 1000+ homicides per year - around 6% of all homicides. They represent less than 1/3 of a percent of the population yet are responsible for 6% of the homicides. How is that not a dangerous demographic?

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Maybe this will help koods.

Quote:

It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions. 

Seems like more than the 1000 +/- you claim are killed by cops last year.




http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records


Or this, which also makes a mockery of your claim:

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm




We are talking about the police not doctors. So, we can't focus on one problem until every other problem is tackled? Great way to never solve any problem.
You might as well say "everyone dies eventually, so who cares if the police kill a few hundred people"




Except, what you said was... "Confrontation with the police is the MOST dangerous situation the average civilian will face in their life."

All I did was point out what an incredibly stupid statement that was. Or is death by medicine not a "situation" in your world?

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.

Although this might be more accurate:

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more some of your posts come off as rational.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810398 - 06/15/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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What ridiculous is that it's not hyperbole. The police are responsible for 1000+ homicides per year - around 6% of all homicides. They represent less than 1/3 of a percent of the population yet are responsible for 6% of the homicides. How is that not a dangerous demographic?

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Maybe this will help koods.

Quote:

It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions. 

Seems like more than the 1000 +/- you claim are killed by cops last year.




http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records


Or this, which also makes a mockery of your claim:

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm




We are talking about the police not doctors. So, we can't focus on one problem until every other problem is tackled? Great way to never solve any problem.
You might as well say "everyone dies eventually, so who cares if the police kill a few hundred people"




I was laughing at you so hard that I almost forgot, it's not a dangerous demographic because:
A. It's there job to do that which most won't.
B. You still haven't answered (despite being asked several times) what percentage of police killing civilians were deemed justifiable?.

The number the police kill isn't the important number. The important number is how many did they WRONGLY kill? Care to answer?

I'm guessing a cop pissed on your foot at some point.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810401 - 06/15/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A lot more people have medical procedures than confrontations with police. Most people will never have a confrontation with police. Almost everyone will have a medical procedure at some point.

If you don't think an encounter with someone who has been trained to protect their lives with deadly force isn't an extremely dangerous encounter, you are simply terrible at risk assessment.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810403 - 06/15/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
What ridiculous is that it's not hyperbole. The police are responsible for 1000+ homicides per year - around 6% of all homicides. They represent less than 1/3 of a percent of the population yet are responsible for 6% of the homicides. How is that not a dangerous demographic?

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Maybe this will help koods.

Quote:

It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions. 

Seems like more than the 1000 +/- you claim are killed by cops last year.




http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/deaths-by-medical-mistakes-hit-records


Or this, which also makes a mockery of your claim:

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm




We are talking about the police not doctors. So, we can't focus on one problem until every other problem is tackled? Great way to never solve any problem.
You might as well say "everyone dies eventually, so who cares if the police kill a few hundred people"




I was laughing at you so hard that I almost forgot, it's not a dangerous demographic because:
A. It's there job to do that which most won't.
B. You still haven't answered (despite being asked several times) what percentage of police killing civilians was deemed justifiable?.

I'm guessing a cop pissed on your foot at some point.




No, actually they stole my car in a huge scam that took the FBI three years to dismantle.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810415 - 06/15/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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A lot more people have medical procedures than confrontations with police. Most people will never have a confrontation with police. Almost everyone will have a medical procedure at some point.

If you don't think an encounter with someone who has been trained to protect their lives with deadly force isn't an extremely dangerous encounter, you are simply terrible at risk assessment.




So learn to state your point without hyperbole. It's not your strong suit.

Now, I edited my post so you might have missed this:

Quote:

The number the police kill isn't the important number. The important number is how many did they WRONGLY kill? Care to answer?




Will you answer? You seem to sidestep that question each time it's asked.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810433 - 06/15/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No the issue is how many people they killed. There are police forces that know how to police without killing people. Very rarely is killing civilians necessary. And due to rampant corruption, intimidation of prosecutors, cops who will not report or testify to wrong doing, almost no wrong doing is ever punished.

I already fucking answered that question. 30. 30 cops have been convicted of murder in ten years. What a fucking joke. Out of almost 10,000 killings.

I can't believe anyone would justify that.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810443 - 06/15/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So you won't answer. Good for you.

Perhaps that's why your posts on subjects like these are so laughable.

Now lets try again... of those killed by cops (pick a year), what percentage was deemed unjustifiable or criminal?

Ah, just saw your edit. You should be even more embarrassed by your using such a broad brush to paint any group as anything over 30 out of 300 million +.

Do you see all blacks as criminals?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810447 - 06/15/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus fucking Christ. Read my previous post. Or do I have to answer this a fourth time in this thread.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810448 - 06/15/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Reading posts by some of you makes me wonder whether this is your church:




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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810454 - 06/15/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Jesus fucking Christ. Read my previous post. Or do I have to answer this a fourth time in this thread.




No, but you could try realizing that some people are answering your post WHILE you are editing it. Do you go out of your way to beclown yourself?


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