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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #21809994 - 06/15/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Sheekle said:

wtf you seriously don't see anything wrong with a fully grown adult excessively tazing a non-aggresive 12 year old?




I'm sorry but at what point in the video was the kid not fighting back, do you
feel the cop would have been better to have beat the kid with a club or broken a
few ribs by kicking the shit out of him?. clearly you guys dont look at the other
options for a little dickhead skater that decided to resist arrest.


what would have been the correct option in this scenario, to simply let him go?
wasnt koods just crying yesterday about how the baltimore cops have decided to
try it that way




The correct situation would have been (assuming the kid did something wrong in the first place)

A) Before even getting out of the car, the officer should first be aware that an increasing mount of people are seeing police as overly aggressive due to the Internet

B) Ask politely to stop skating. That way nobody feels threatned enough to feel like they should run away.

C) Clearly expain to the kid what the infraction was and explaining why it is against the law. The kid is young, he probably never read the criminal code of the USA so he probably isn't aware of all the laws yet except the big bad ones.

D) Ask the kid if he understands that what he did was wrong and maybe even his friends too while were at it

E) Give a verbal warning. Be lenient. Tell the kid that he hopes there won't be a next time because he will know that he knows he's commiting an infraction and that he would be forced to do something about it.

F) Once the issue has been resolve it is now time for the crucial part of the cops job to take place, hich is community outreach (if he doesn't have another call waiting of course). That is:
  - Talk casualy to the kids. Chill out. How's school going? Are you guys sports fans? How's life?
  - Go above and beyond and be that cop that plays basketball with a group a kid or something like that (yes it happened before)

G) End the interaction on a good term so to make sure that the minute you're gone the kids tell themselves "wow that cop was cool".

******** If at any point the kid tries to assault the cop, only then is violence necessary********

Now, does that make any sense to anyone of you guys?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21810000 - 06/15/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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koods said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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koods said:
Because poor black communes are a fucking police state.




You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




Everything seems like hyperbole to someone who thinks the cops only killed 23 people in 2009.






hey koods, how many people did the cops kill in 2011 that were not justifiable



Pris, it took a reporter for the Washington post two months to investsigate this because of poor reporting to the FBI. How many cops were charged out of almost 10,000 homicides? 54. Under 30 were convicted.mif you think that accurately represents the true number, you are delusional.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Patlal]
    #21810009 - 06/15/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Sheekle said:

wtf you seriously don't see anything wrong with a fully grown adult excessively tazing a non-aggresive 12 year old?




I'm sorry but at what point in the video was the kid not fighting back, do you
feel the cop would have been better to have beat the kid with a club or broken a
few ribs by kicking the shit out of him?. clearly you guys dont look at the other
options for a little dickhead skater that decided to resist arrest.


what would have been the correct option in this scenario, to simply let him go?
wasnt koods just crying yesterday about how the baltimore cops have decided to
try it that way




The correct situation would have been (assuming the kid did something wrong in the first place)

A) Before even getting out of the car, the officer should first be aware that an increasing mount of people are seeing police as overly aggressive due to the Internet

B) Ask politely to stop skating. That way nobody feels threatned enough to feel like they should run away.

C) Clearly expain to the kid what the infraction was and explaining why it is against the law. The kid is young, he probably never read the criminal code of the USA so he probably isn't aware of all the laws yet except the big bad ones.

D) Ask the kid if he understands that what he did was wrong and maybe even his friends too while were at it

E) Give a verbal warning. Be lenient. Tell the kid that he hopes there won't be a next time because he will know that he knows he's commiting an infraction and that he would be forced to do something about it.

F) Once the issue has been resolve it is now time for the crucial part of the cops job to take place, hich is community outreach (if he doesn't have another call waiting of course). That is:
  - Talk casualy to the kids. Chill out. How's school going? Are you guys sports fans? How's life?
  - Go above and beyond and be that cop that plays basketball with a group a kid or something like that (yes it happened before)

G) End the interaction on a good term so to make sure that the minute you're gone the kids tell themselves "wow that cop was cool".

******** If at any point the kid tries to assault the cop, only then is violence necessary********

Now, does that make any sense to anyone of you guys?




How do you know that any of those scenarios didn't take place?  Or do you place judgment without any information?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Asante]
    #21810012 - 06/15/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Asante said:
Kids will play and we adults must give them the right of way and only control their mayhem if it gets out of hand.





http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/04/11-year-old_busted_after_armed.html

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/the-most-shocking-cases-of-kids-who-killed-their-parents/

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Tazing a 12yo is fucking retarded. Defending that is fucking retarded. You have valid points but defending this police brutality isnt among them.






busting his ribs would have been more appropriate, maybe shooting him
I thought the taser was the go-to option everyone wanted but for some
reason that's not the case here, why is that? is it because 12 year old
kids cannot possibly be dangerous?


Quote:

That kid needed a good talking to, but what happened is beyond excessive. 12 is a child man, no 12yo deserves to be tazed off their nuts.





a talking to by you, a spanking by turtle... which is the right option

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/12-year-old-boy-arrested-in-string-of-robberies-223174681.html


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810016 - 06/15/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
Law and order means at least two police killings per day.




Then we don't have law and order. "At least two per day" would be 730.

In 2014 it was 623.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




A majority of police killings are not reported officially. Thankfully the media (at least foreign media) have started to count because the federal government has no legal authority to force police departments to report such incidents.

As of today, 500 people have been killed by police in the US this year. That is a rate exceeding 1,000 per year - 3 per day.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/10/the-counted-500-people-killed-by-police-2015


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Patlal]
    #21810017 - 06/15/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Now, does that make any sense to anyone of you guys?




It actually might were you able to show us what happened before the camera started rolling.

Can you?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Patlal]
    #21810021 - 06/15/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:


The correct situation would have been (assuming the kid did something wrong in the first place)

A) Before even getting out of the car, the officer should first be aware that an increasing mount of people are seeing police as overly aggressive due to the Internet

B) Ask politely to stop skating. That way nobody feels threatned enough to feel like they should run away.

C) Clearly expain to the kid what the infraction was and explaining why it is against the law. The kid is young, he probably never read the criminal code of the USA so he probably isn't aware of all the laws yet except the big bad ones.

D) Ask the kid if he understands that what he did was wrong and maybe even his friends too while were at it

E) Give a verbal warning. Be lenient. Tell the kid that he hopes there won't be a next time because he will know that he knows he's commiting an infraction and that he would be forced to do something about it.

F) Once the issue has been resolve it is now time for the crucial part of the cops job to take place, hich is community outreach (if he doesn't have another call waiting of course). That is:
  - Talk casualy to the kids. Chill out. How's school going? Are you guys sports fans? How's life?
  - Go above and beyond and be that cop that plays basketball with a group a kid or something like that (yes it happened before)

G) End the interaction on a good term so to make sure that the minute you're gone the kids tell themselves "wow that cop was cool".

******** If at any point the kid tries to assault the cop, only then is violence necessary********

Now, does that make any sense to anyone of you guys?




Makes perfect sense to me, but then, I am from pussified Europe, and you are from girly Canada.
Real AMERICAN men tase kids in a stranglehold and shoot unarmed men in the back.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21810024 - 06/15/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
busting his ribs would have been more appropriate, maybe shooting him
I thought the taser was the go-to option everyone wanted but for some
reason that's not the case here, why is that? is it because 12 year old
kids cannot possibly be dangerous?




Now, are you dumb or is this on purpose?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: qman]
    #21810029 - 06/15/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Sheekle said:

wtf you seriously don't see anything wrong with a fully grown adult excessively tazing a non-aggresive 12 year old?




I'm sorry but at what point in the video was the kid not fighting back, do you
feel the cop would have been better to have beat the kid with a club or broken a
few ribs by kicking the shit out of him?. clearly you guys dont look at the other
options for a little dickhead skater that decided to resist arrest.


what would have been the correct option in this scenario, to simply let him go?
wasnt koods just crying yesterday about how the baltimore cops have decided to
try it that way




The correct situation would have been (assuming the kid did something wrong in the first place)

A) Before even getting out of the car, the officer should first be aware that an increasing mount of people are seeing police as overly aggressive due to the Internet

B) Ask politely to stop skating. That way nobody feels threatned enough to feel like they should run away.

C) Clearly expain to the kid what the infraction was and explaining why it is against the law. The kid is young, he probably never read the criminal code of the USA so he probably isn't aware of all the laws yet except the big bad ones.

D) Ask the kid if he understands that what he did was wrong and maybe even his friends too while were at it

E) Give a verbal warning. Be lenient. Tell the kid that he hopes there won't be a next time because he will know that he knows he's commiting an infraction and that he would be forced to do something about it.

F) Once the issue has been resolve it is now time for the crucial part of the cops job to take place, hich is community outreach (if he doesn't have another call waiting of course). That is:
  - Talk casualy to the kids. Chill out. How's school going? Are you guys sports fans? How's life?
  - Go above and beyond and be that cop that plays basketball with a group a kid or something like that (yes it happened before)

G) End the interaction on a good term so to make sure that the minute you're gone the kids tell themselves "wow that cop was cool".

******** If at any point the kid tries to assault the cop, only then is violence necessary********

Now, does that make any sense to anyone of you guys?




How do you know that any of those scenarios didn't take place?  Or do you place judgment without any information?




Well, I just saw a video and the cop had a kid in a chokehold and he repeatedly tazed him. But you're right. That isn't enough inforation.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810030 - 06/15/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810033 - 06/15/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




Psst... that means that the actual number is way higher then reported.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21810034 - 06/15/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Asante said:
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Tazing a 12yo is fucking retarded. Defending that is fucking retarded. You have valid points but defending this police brutality isnt among them.




busting his ribs would have been more appropriate, maybe shooting him



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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810037 - 06/15/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can you not see how corrupt the police are that their lobby has successfully prevented congress from enacting laws that would simply require accurate reporting of incidents to the FBI?

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




We do now. People are counting and the number this year is 500. They only update once a day, so it's probably more.

You act like 600+ killings a year is reasonable. Despicable.


Edited by koods (06/15/15 10:13 AM)


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21810039 - 06/15/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should do more target shooting, seriously. Play.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Patlal]
    #21810040 - 06/15/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
That isn't enough inforation.




Now you're right. It seems like most posters here lack the ability to realize that.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21810045 - 06/15/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Turtletotem said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




Psst... that means that the actual number is way higher then reported.




Psst... no. That means the actual number MAY be higher than reported.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810047 - 06/15/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:



hey koods, how many people did the cops kill in 2011 that were not justifiable



Pris, it took a reporter for the Washington post two months to investsigate this because of poor reporting to the FBI. How many cops were charged out of almost 10,000 homicides? 54. Under 30 were convicted.mif you think that accurately represents the true number, you are delusional.






hey koods, how many police shootings were not justified?

I've seen what reporters do, remember zimmerman who now has to fear for hi life
on a daily basis, that's what reporters do, they inject opinion, not facts


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810053 - 06/15/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
That isn't enough inforation.




Now you're right. It seems like most posters here lack the ability to realize that.




You will never be satisfied that there is enough information.
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Turtletotem said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




Psst... that means that the actual number is way higher then reported.




Psst... no. That means the actual number MAY be higher than reported.





No it is higher. http://www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds-of-police-killings-are-uncounted-in-federal-statistics-1417577504

Wall Street journal is hardly a left wing rag.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21810064 - 06/15/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Can you not see how corrupt the police are that their lobby has successfully prevented congress from enacting laws that would simply require accurate reporting of incidents to the FBI?

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
A majority of police killings are not reported officially.




So you don't know what the actual number is.

You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.




We do now. People are counting and the number this year is 500. They only update once a day, so it's probably more.

You act like 600+ killings a year is reasonable. Despicable.




Nope. I realize there are shitty cops. I also realize that: You should ease off the hyperbole. It might make more of your posts come off as rational.

I'm not anymore likely to accept the Guardians numbers than yours. 600+ killings may be reasonable. We don't know.

Assuming the guilt of the cops is no less despicable than assuming all blacks are guilty of "something"

Also:
Quote:

Although Congress instructed the Attorney General in 1994 to compile and publish annual statistics on police use of excessive force, this was never carried out, and the FBI does not collect these data either.




It should be. I can, without hyperbole, say they should.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21810066 - 06/15/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:



hey koods, how many people did the cops kill in 2011 that were not justifiable



Pris, it took a reporter for the Washington post two months to investsigate this because of poor reporting to the FBI. How many cops were charged out of almost 10,000 homicides? 54. Under 30 were convicted.mif you think that accurately represents the true number, you are delusional.






hey koods, how many police shootings were not justified?

I've seen what reporters do, remember zimmerman who now has to fear for hi life
on a daily basis, that's what reporters do, they inject opinion, not facts




Most of them are not necessary. If other countries can go months or years without having police kill people, why not us? Because we have a completely corrupt and broken cop culture. You seem to defend these people like they are family. I'm sorry you have family members who are morally and ethically bankrupt.


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